Let's get this straight about Sasuke Uchiha...

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Sasuke Uchiha Is..

Objective - (of a person or their judgment) not influenced by personal feelings or opinions in considering and representing facts.

Decisive - settling an issue; producing a definite result.

Resourceful - having the ability to find quick and clever ways to overcome difficulties.


Realistic - having or showing a sensible and practical idea of what can be achieved or expected.


Naruto's well-being increases Sasuke's chance of survival.

Sasuke Uchiha is cooperating to survive, nothing more or nothing less.
 

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Well kakashi and sakura are essentially useless at this point and he is shielding them as well so I'd say barbeque sauce kay still has feelings for them in same shape or or form
 

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Sasuke Uchiha Is..

Objective - (of a person or their judgment) not influenced by personal feelings or opinions in considering and representing facts.

Decisive - settling an issue; producing a definite result.

Resourceful - having the ability to find quick and clever ways to overcome difficulties.


Realistic - having or showing a sensible and practical idea of what can be achieved or expected.


Naruto's well-being increases Sasuke's chance of survival.

Sasuke Uchiha is cooperating to survive, nothing more or nothing less.
I noticed that too, that he is cooperating.

First logical sasuke thread I have read in some time...thankyou sir
Likewise, feels weird.
 
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Well everything you said is right, however there are cases where sasuke is not objective. When it comes to Itachi, naruto, sakura (part 1) and karin, he has let his emotions get the better of him. For me, it just adds to his great character.
 

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Well everything you said is right, however there are cases where sasuke is not objective. When it comes to Itachi, naruto, sakura (part 1) and karin, he has let his emotions get the better of him. For me, it just adds to his great character.
agreed. nice point. also sakura and kakashi are safe because of him. even if it doesnt mean he cares for them however his action is keeping them safe, so its a positive thing imo
 

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It's beyond my own comprehension why I'm even going to bother replying to a thread like this as it utterly pointless. Most posts of this thread already prove that instead of talking about the subject at hand, it are people who just want to bash/lure other people for whatever reason or are just drooling over the thread because their favorite character is being praised and that's all that matters. As long as they can keep the imaginary fantasy up of a character they created themselves in their heads loosely based on a character from a series, but prepare for war when someone actually bursts their bubble.

Objective - (of a person or their judgment) not influenced by personal feelings or opinions in considering and representing facts.

What? I mean what? Did you actually bother to read the series? Or tried to understand the character Sasuke is at all? Not influenced by personal feelings? Sasuke has only been influenced by personal feelings, which lead him to be manipulated over and over again. First his own brother sends him on the path of revenge. Sasuke gave everything up just to kill him, even made a deal with the devil and then when he finally kills Itachi, an extremely shady and untrustworthy character tells him his brother was faking the entire thing and that in fact the Konoha elders were responsible for it all. And what does Sasuke? Suddenly he remembers his brother crying, knows it is true, makes a 180° turn and goes on a quest against Konoha to avenge his brother...which he killed himself after having been consumed by that thought for years. He then starts killing the Konoha elders, tries to kill his former friends...and eventually decides he wants to become Hokage. What?

Itachi even said it, Sasuke is a blank page. He has been the toy of countless of other characters that had completely contradictional goals. And then you call him 'objective, not influenced by personal feelings or opinions'? The only thing he has been is being led by his own personal feelings and being influenced by other people's opinions.

Realistic - having or showing a sensible and practical idea of what can be achieved or expected.

Aims to kill his genius brother, something even Orochimaru wasn't capable of. A very unrealistic thought, but still acceptable. Then finally kills him, but fails to notice his brother actually let him win. Then decides to attack Konoha. Yeah, he is going to take down a village that consists of around 15 000 shinobi. Then changes his mind and attacks the kage summit, thinking he somehow can take down all the kage. Finally he aims to become the kage of the village he tried to destroy and of which he killed on of the leaders. What?

Yeah, very realistic and having a sensible idea of what can be achieved.

Decisive - settling an issue; producing a definite result.

When he sets his eyes on something, during the process of trying to achieve it he has been going to excessive lengths, even trying to kill people who cared deeply for him. However someone who first works years to kill his brother, but then when he just did it decides in a matter of almost minutes he wants to avenge him because of some stuff someone who he doesn't even know said and then halfway through stops again with that for other stuff and eventually then decides to become hokage, the term 'whimsical' is probably a lot closer to the truth than 'decisive'. Because Sasuke lost all touch with realism and objectivity and frankly didn't even know anymore what to do, he became so mentally unstable he should have been in a hospital. He stabbed Karin and tried to kill Sakura with a psychotic smile on his face talking to his brother, the brother who wanted to save him.

If Sasuke really was realistic, objective and decisive, he would have never left Konoha. Then he would have realized that there is nothing on the path of revenge. That would have been the most objective conclusion. Then he could have been decisive by saying he would not listen at all to Itachi and that he would just live his life with his friends or at least how he wanted without being influecned by people like Orochimaru and then a lot of problems could have been avoided. But of course that's not how you write a story, doing the rational, objective thing without doubts would be boring.

It's completely beyond me how you could possibly call a character that had such a complex development, that continuously conflicted with his own self and more than once made 180° turns, as being rational, objective and decisive. It's even more beyond me what kind of point there was in making a thread about to say he is supposedly rational, objective and decisive and don't let me even begin on the people who start bowing down and go all "finally, a thread that praises Sasuke". Like that's new.

I don't even have a favorite character nor a character that I particularly hate. Every character has its own good points as shortcomings and Sasuke is the character that probably had the most turbulent development. So it's really sad that I apparently understand him better than all the people who placed him on a pedestal and find it necessary to call an imaginary character of a manga 'lord' and the people who find it necessary to use derogatory terms like 'Sasugay'.

Shame on you all. If most of you would actually bother discussing characters and the story as they are instead of being busy all the time with donning your own favorites with divine powers and perfection, while hating and stepping on others, then we could actually have some meaningful debates without hate. But no, instead we get...this.
 

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Sasuke is such a letdown. It's current feat doesn't really make that up.

1. Naruto's bijudama can make such explosion, still get gg by IN like fodders

2. Sasuke is smart and bad enough to over come IN to not be like any fodder, but has to go for ashura way. That's pathetic
 

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It's beyond my own comprehension why I'm even going to bother replying to a thread like this as it utterly pointless. Most posts of this thread already prove that instead of talking about the subject at hand, it are people who just want to bash/lure other people for whatever reason or are just drooling over the thread because their favorite character is being praised and that's all that matters. As long as they can keep the imaginary fantasy up of a character they created themselves in their heads loosely based on a character from a series, but prepare for war when someone actually bursts their bubble.

Objective - (of a person or their judgment) not influenced by personal feelings or opinions in considering and representing facts.

What? I mean what? Did you actually bother to read the series? Or tried to understand the character Sasuke is at all? Not influenced by personal feelings? Sasuke has only been influenced by personal feelings, which lead him to be manipulated over and over again. First his own brother sends him on the path of revenge. Sasuke gave everything up just to kill him, even made a deal with the devil and then when he finally kills Itachi, an extremely shady and untrustworthy character tells him his brother was faking the entire thing and that in fact the Konoha elders were responsible for it all. And what does Sasuke? Suddenly he remembers his brother crying, knows it is true, makes a 180° turn and goes on a quest against Konoha to avenge his brother...which he killed himself after having been consumed by that thought for years. He then starts killing the Konoha elders, tries to kill his former friends...and eventually decides he wants to become Hokage. What?

Itachi even said it, Sasuke is a blank page. He has been the toy of countless of other characters that had completely contradictional goals. And then you call him 'objective, not influenced by personal feelings or opinions'? The only thing he has been is being led by his own personal feelings and being influenced by other people's opinions.

Realistic - having or showing a sensible and practical idea of what can be achieved or expected.

Aims to kill his genius brother, something even Orochimaru wasn't capable of. A very unrealistic thought, but still acceptable. Then finally kills him, but fails to notice his brother actually let him win. Then decides to attack Konoha. Yeah, he is going to take down a village that consists of around 15 000 shinobi. Then changes his mind and attacks the kage summit, thinking he somehow can take down all the kage. Finally he aims to become the kage of the village he tried to destroy and of which he killed on of the leaders. What?

Yeah, very realistic and having a sensible idea of what can be achieved.

Decisive - settling an issue; producing a definite result.

When he sets his eyes on something, during the process of trying to achieve it he has been going to excessive lengths, even trying to kill people who cared deeply for him. However someone who first works years to kill his brother, but then when he just did it decides in a matter of almost minutes he wants to avenge him because of some stuff someone who he doesn't even know said and then halfway through stops again with that for other stuff and eventually then decides to become hokage, the term 'whimsical' is probably a lot closer to the truth than 'decisive'. Because Sasuke lost all touch with realism and objectivity and frankly didn't even know anymore what to do, he became so mentally unstable he should have been in a hospital. He stabbed Karin and tried to kill Sakura with a psychotic smile on his face talking to his brother, the brother who wanted to save him.

If Sasuke really was realistic, objective and decisive, he would have never left Konoha. Then he would have realized that there is nothing on the path of revenge. That would have been the most objective conclusion. Then he could have been decisive by saying he would not listen at all to Itachi and that he would just live his life with his friends or at least how he wanted without being influecned by people like Orochimaru and then a lot of problems could have been avoided. But of course that's not how you write a story, doing the rational, objective thing without doubts would be boring.

It's completely beyond me how you could possibly call a character that had such a complex development, that continuously conflicted with his own self and more than once made 180° turns, as being rational, objective and decisive. It's even more beyond me what kind of point there was in making a thread about to say he is supposedly rational, objective and decisive and don't let me even begin on the people who start bowing down and go all "finally, a thread that praises Sasuke". Like that's new.

I don't even have a favorite character nor a character that I particularly hate. Every character has its own good points as shortcomings and Sasuke is the character that probably had the most turbulent development. So it's really sad that I apparently understand him better than all the people who placed him on a pedestal and find it necessary to call an imaginary character of a manga 'lord' and the people who find it necessary to use derogatory terms like 'Sasugay'.

Shame on you all. If most of you would actually bother discussing characters and the story as they are instead of being busy all the time with donning your own favorites with divine powers and perfection, while hating and stepping on others, then we could actually have some meaningful debates without hate. But no, instead we get...this.
lol Why bother indeed if you think about the crazy fans obsessed with power ups and fancy weapons running around screaming for their lord. But it was a nice post for a change- it has been a long time when I actually enjoyed a post about Sasuke. So thanks.
 

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lol Why bother indeed if you think about the crazy fans obsessed with power ups and fancy weapons running around screaming for their lord. But it was a nice post for a change- it has been a long time when I actually enjoyed a post about Sasuke. So thanks.
I never get tired of a bash comment like this U_U
 

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lol Why bother indeed if you think about the crazy fans obsessed with power ups and fancy weapons running around screaming for their lord. But it was a nice post for a change- it has been a long time when I actually enjoyed a post about Sasuke. So thanks.

Sorry Ira Sasuke is Lord but we know theres more to Lord Sasuke than his powers. Don't insult me.
 
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