Let's get something straight.
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if obito fights nagato that would be the END of him!
1-if he uses izanagi he would loose his only eye, so no more sharingan(blind for good)
2-since nagato has madaras renningan obito cant cast any genjutsu on him - nagato visual powers are superior
3-using kamui would be a waist of chakra, if he manage lol since he cant cast a genj therefore he would be just changing battlefield
4-remeber how nagato killed his parents assassins and how he saved yaiko and connan? obito better not approach him in personal if dont want to loose his soul - better off fighting the puppets
5-nagato can also use mokuton just like madara/plus he has mastered all elements like no one did/he can absorb chakra/he can regenerate fast and the list go on...obito would eventually run out of chakra and be tortured like naruto and kakashi did to him until madara saved his dumb ass lol peace
1-if he uses izanagi he would loose his only eye, so no more sharingan(blind for good)
2-since nagato has madaras renningan obito cant cast any genjutsu on him - nagato visual powers are superior
3-using kamui would be a waist of chakra, if he manage lol since he cant cast a genj therefore he would be just changing battlefield
4-remeber how nagato killed his parents assassins and how he saved yaiko and connan? obito better not approach him in personal if dont want to loose his soul - better off fighting the puppets
5-nagato can also use mokuton just like madara/plus he has mastered all elements like no one did/he can absorb chakra/he can regenerate fast and the list go on...obito would eventually run out of chakra and be tortured like naruto and kakashi did to him until madara saved his dumb ass lol peace
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I see some pretty clear problems here.
1. Pain may have a problem once the other paths have been defeated, but with his base speed, and control over gravity, he can still prove victorious.
2. Izanagi may be used by Obito, but if Pain surrounds himself with a small sphere of Shinrai Tensai, Obito won't be able to come into contact with him, regardless of the method. [Explanation] - If Obito materializes, then he'll try to warp Pain, but here's where things get complicated. The amount of chakra that Nagato controls Pain with will be concentrated because he no longer has to divide it among the other paths. With that being said, Pain can make the sphere more dense with gravity, causing it to repel with greater force than normal without making it bigger in size. When Obito trys to warp Pain, Pain can expand the sphere, causing Obito's efforts to fail. Nagato has way more chakra than Obito by far, so he could make Pain expand the sphere, negating Obitos Kamui. You can't bend BENT space with a weaker force than what's causing the BENT space to be bent - Which means that Obitos Kamui would be inferior to Pains concentrated ST sphere.
3 - I'm pretty sure that he could theoretically repel Obito even when he's using Kamui, due to the fact that Gravity (if strong enough) can bend anything. the term "Gravitational Lensing" proves that. Black Holes dramatically bend light coming from objects behind them and distorts it. If Pain decided to use CT on Obito, he could most likely put Obito in a trap.
Have you wondered why Obito can STAND on the ground without slipping though? If he's in the Kamui dimension at 20ft Below see level on the ground, and in the real world at normal sea level, on the ground, then goes to 40 ft Above sea level, on the ground in the Kamui dimension, shouldn't he be floating in the real world, instead of still remaining on the ground, ? <- This Explains why Pain can stop Obito with CT.
4 - I see HUGE errors in this statement - Madara couldn't have possibly tought Obito the 6 Paths jutsu, because he had gave Young Nagato the his rinnegans before he rescued Obito and he was crippled. Madara was absorbing chakra from the flower he made from cells of the 1st Hokage, let alone enough chakra to use the jutsu even if he could. Combine that with the fact that Obito didn't have a Rinnegan of his own. This means that Nagato is by far better at using the Six Paths than Obito could ever be. Nagato can use the Six Paths with his own Body, and Obito hasn't shown that at all, and most likely never will. There's no way he has had enough time to perfect his use of the Six Paths from the time he Obtained the Rinnegan from Nagato, to the time he used them to attack Naruto and Killer Bee.
I felt like making a tread on this, but can't find the time, so enjoy what little I did anyway!
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No Itachi does not. the 6 Paths would disrupt his genjutsu and I doubt Itachi knew his secrets. And as for Obito, his powers pale in comparison to Pein's. There is a reason he chose to be co leader and not leader, Pein was a valuable asset, Obito was just following Madara's plans. Hell Obito is a bit of a douche to be honest, no real power except for borrowed power. And his Kamui is exploitable.I figured you would be an Obito fan judging from your avatar and signature.
Just telling it like it is, eh?
BTW, Itachi stands a chance.
Pain's base speed was nothing out of the ordinary, with some paths being quicker than others.
Izanagi turns reality and anything disadvantageous to Obito into mere illusion. Only his beneficial techniques will still stand. That is why it is a forbidden technique - it is 10 minutes of pure invincibility, since he has the power of a Rikudō.
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The only realm with a counter to Kamui is Tendo. The others do not have an answer to it.
His body isn't existing in this plane of reality, so there is nothing to affect. You only see an image of his body, it's not actually there, hence why all Jutsu are ineffective whilst he's using it.
He stands on the ground because he does not warp his whole body, only the parts which are affected by the attacks. Since he doesn't need to warp his feet to avoid, say, a Rasengan, they will remain bound to the laws of this realm.
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However, if his whole body is being influenced, then he will have no problem warping his entire self into his pocket dimension. Chibaku Tensei will be rendered ineffective.
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Actaully, my comment was talking about Obito's knowledge on the 6 Paths' techniques, not him actually using it. In any case, he does know them and he can use them, he just chooses not to. Arguing with that is simply arguing with the manga.
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Obito has complete Izanagi (because he has control over both Uchiha and Senju DNA), Danzou doesn't. Otherwise, Obito wouldn't have survived Konan's 10 minute Jutsu with only one eye (which he used to activate the Jutsu right at the beginning).
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He's been using Kamui for 17 years so i think he's the master of that JutsuU_U
So if someones close to dying they're weak? Konon needed months of prep time to do that damage yet she still lost.
And lets not forget it was Naruto,Bee,Gai and Kakashi vs Obito.
He's actually highly intelligent he went from a Naruto uchiha clone to a ninja as smart as Kakashi.
He has full knowledge of the rinne moves plus he can use the rinne moves as well since he mentioned that he can use the revival move that Nagato used before his death.
You gave poor reason on how Obito loses to Nagato or Pain.
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???? I can go on of ppl who r powerhouses and smart at same time...now as for OP....only really kabuto prime and madara (edo tensi version)
