Lets count the times Madara was saved by plot.

[Retsu]

Agreed, ppl have the nerve to call him one of the best written characters in the manga. Must be from having too much uchiha spooge blocking their vision.

 

[MAN OF SIN]

Tobi would have had his mask broken sooner or later, but I agree. It should have been someone possessing obito's body, not pedobito himself

Madara possessing his body would have been good. But instead Kishi ruined Obito's character.

 

[RNITBmsage]

1) He didn't die, and that's his ability. His EMS ability saving him from death doesn't mean it's plot

2) He knew the seals prior to his death. For a guy as smart as him you wouldn't be surprised

3) I don't see how that is BS. Lol summoning a humanoid around you to break the circle/dislodge the tag of the seal is called using your resources

4) That too isn't getting saved by plot. There is a reason behind that, just like there is a reason why Sasky and Obito were using MS abilities with only 3 tomoe active

5) You have JJ inside you and hashirama's amazing healing abilities. 8 gates will have 0% overall damage

6) Again, he has hashi cells

7) If he can survive 8 gates guy kick and getting bisected in half then logic dictates that you can survive a simple attack through the chest. Besides, the BZ attack was not meant to kill him, but to infect him and turn him into Kaguya since he had the ideal body.


Lel most of the things you've stated have nothing to do with plot. Madara was not once saved by plot unlike Sauce and Nachos.






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[MAN OF SIN]

Sakura not destroying his eye.

 

[Zee U]

Him using Susanoo while blind wasn't an error, you should list the Kamui one, that was a big plothole.

 

[Darkakatsuki]

In chronological order.

He used Izanagi days after dying.

He knew the seals to release edo tensei somehow. Even while his soul was out of his body.

He survived getting sealed multiple times by using susano'o (b.s.)
He absorbed amaterasu with no eyes.

He used susano'o with no eyes.

He survived an encounter with 8 Gates God Guy

He survived getting bisected.

He survived getting impaled by black zetsu, absorbing a shit ton of senjutsu, expanding and exploding and lived until the sage left.

1) Wrong. He used Izanagi before he died, he set a time lag on it to make it take effect days later. It's exactly the same thing Itachi did with the amateresu that he placed on Sasuke and the Koto Amatsu kami he placed inside Naruto. Why is it plot when Madara sets a condition and time lag to his sharingan jutsu but not plot when Itachi does it?




2) It's not somehow he knew the seals, Madara knew how to perform Edo Tensei just like Orochimaru and Kabuto did, except they learned it from a scroll and he copied it with his sharingan. If you know a jutsu for close to one hundred years then obviously you will know how to counter it by then. His soul was still in the impure world by the way so get your facts straight. Dan did the same thing, he used a jutsu while Edo was being released and even replenished Tsunade's chakra in his soul state. Once again, why is it only plot no jutsu when Madara does it but not when another character does?






3) You're grasping at straws on the surviving getting sealed thing.






4) I don't think it's plot that he absorbed amateresu more than it's Kishi not explaining things. At the time Madara had Hashi's sage mode so it could be that he was using Hashi powers to absorb it, seeing as Hashi himself has shown both chakra absorbing and chakra supression jutsus with his mokuton. If he used preta path (which was never stated by the way), then yes, using preta path without eyes would be asspull/plot no jutsu.




5)Susano'o without eyes is definitely bs no jutsu, agreed.






6) Surviving eight gates Gai? I think I disagree here. I think it's the opposite actually, suicide jutsu or not, eight gates Gai being that strong is pure bs, asspull, plot, and crap no jutsu put together. And even then, you must remember that not only did Gai get help (Minato, Kakashi, Lee, and Gaara collaborating to get rid of Madara's Gudou dama), but Madara was also held back by plot. For example, why didn't he use PS as a buffer to Gai's attacks? What happened to his Gunbai that reflects all attacks, even TBB? Why did it mysterious disappear? Why did he not use Limbo to stomp Gai? He used it against the tailed beasts, and used it right after defeating Gai on Naruto, but for some reason he couldn't use it against Gai? Just who was saved by plot here actually?




7) Survived bisecting? Did you forget that Tsunade survived the same ordeal? So you think a normal human can do it and it aint plot but not Madara, a Juubi Jinchuuriki with Hashirama sage mode and dna? Yeah right buddy






8) Yeah I'm not quite sure how that expanding and exploding thing is supposed to work, so I won't respond to that one.




9)I apoligise for the wall of text, I do space my texting on the phone but it always appears as a wall of text when I post. I dunno why, maybe my phone is not that smart.

 

[Ambivalence]

Almost every point of your thread has been countered. This just proves Madara doesn't need plot to be awesome, he does everything alone. "Plot" is for example Gai getting saved from Madara's TSB so he could have his time to shine.

The only thing i don't understand myself is the Amaterasu "absorb" or whatever.

 

[salamander uchiha]

I think people dont understand plot shield. Plot shield is when something out of the characters power hsppens to save them something some would call divine i tervention. With this retarded logic applying to madara what was to stop him spamming infinte boulders to annihilate everybody and all this plot shield for him would become irrelevant. Someone could argue it is plot shield for the characters that madara was restricted after the first 2 meteors. You treat madara like naruto(who gets huge plot shield) and apply it to somebody fof Madara's calibre. Therein lies your problem.

ps. You should be banned for this thread.

 

[UzumakiWade]

No, just no, don't go messing with mah boy Madz, or he gon solo your fav neg diff.

( Just kidding, XD. But lets be honest, hasn't every relevant character been saved by plot atleast once?)

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

Half you reasons are BS

1st one 2nd one actually all of them nvm