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[slimreaper]

Current Sage Mode Naruto can fuse MA and PA with him so he can get unlimited Sage Mode.

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Kurama let's him fuse with MA and PA

Naruto with Unlimited Sage Mode, + MA and PA's Feats and Intel + Odama Rasengan + Odama Raseshuriken + Sensing + Frog Kata + Super strenght gives EMS sasuke without PS a run for his money.

I countered 90% of that in the Op

 

[Flawž]

I countered 90% of that in the Op

No you didn't. you created your own situation and countered it. I can do the same with choji.

I believe pa ma are way too weak to be helpful for god mode now

Base on manga, naruto is now at least 250 times stronger than before, pa ma can never get anywhere closer to that level. They still at fodder levels

I'm not talking about Rikudo naruto, i'm talking about regular naruto with SM in the war arc.

 

[TrollKing]

No you didn't. you created your own situation and countered it. I can do the same with choji.



I'm not talking about Rikudo naruto, i'm talking about regular naruto with SM in the war arc.

Then ma is dead, and not sure if nine tail chakra would spit pa out

 

[slimreaper]

No you didn't. you created your own situation and countered it. I can do the same with choji.



I'm not talking about Rikudo naruto, i'm talking about regular naruto with SM in the war arc.

Please explain how any of that gets over this

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This counters pretty much any and everything naruto in SM can do

 

[Flawž]

Then ma is dead, and not sure if nine tail chakra would spit pa out

ma and pa are dead? what are you talking about?

 

[Rokudaime Hokage Naruto]

Please explain how any of that gets over this

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This counters pretty much any and everything naruto in SM can do

That gets obliterated by Massive FRS. And Naruto can have 3 clones do this in a far away place whilst 10 more clones distract EMS Sasuke whilst he's munching Ramen.

 

[Flawž]

Please explain how any of that gets over this

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This counters pretty much any and everything naruto in SM can do

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Amaterasu/Enton is sensed and dodged accordingly.

 

[iNotorious]

Well current SM gotten a few upgrades, can go into SM faster and few other things that king has mentioned in comment #18.

 

[slimreaper]

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Amaterasu/Enton is sensed and dodged accordingly.

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no it isn't. Please tell me how being forced into defense for an entire fight is "being on the same level"

 

[LeSauce]

MS sasuke can beat Naruto, he can't dodge Amaterasu.

 

[Flawž]

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no it isn't. Please tell me how being forced into defense for an entire fight is "being on the same level"

Naruto can sense the build up in his eyes and will know to move in order to dodge Amaterasu or Enton. He could create clones and send in a FRS at Sasuke while the main naruto is dodging the Enton spam.

MA and PA will be there just in case they need to help naruto in the fight. naruto summons all the toads for extra support. Once Susano'o is down, sasuke will most likely lose.

Again, i'm not saying War Arc SM > EMS Sasuke, I said War Arc SM gives EMS Sasuke (without PS) a run for his money but still loses.

 

[slimreaper]

Naruto can sense the build up in his eyes and will know to move in order to dodge Amaterasu or Enton. He could create clones and send in a FRS at Sasuke while the main naruto is dodging the Enton spam.

MA and PA will be there just in case they need to help naruto in the fight. naruto summons all the toads for extra support. Once Susano'o is down, sasuke will most likely lose.

Again, i'm not saying War Arc SM > EMS Sasuke, I said War Arc SM gives EMS Sasuke (without PS) a run for his money but still loses.

Naruto wouldn't be able to dodge this attack for more than a few seconds. Because this attack is shot and doesn't spawn, sasuke can simply lead naruto. He would already know where naruto was going before he even did it

and and FRS isn't beating this

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What run for his money is that?

 

[Flawž]

Naruto wouldn't be able to dodge this attack for more than a few seconds. Because this attack is shot and doesn't spawn, sasuke can simply lead naruto. He would already know where naruto was going before he even did it

and and FRS isn't beating this

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What run for his money is that?

As i said earlier. Amaterasu isn't hitting naruto, he can sense it coming and like you said, Enton is shot, not spawned, meaning Naruto dodges it without difficulty.

Same way naruto dodged 3rd riakage's attack even tho hes as fast as Ay.

Enton or amaterasu are dodged.

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A regular small FRS was able to cut mountains:

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An Odama FRS will damage/break Susano'o no doubt about it (Ps not included).

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[Rokudaime Hokage Naruto]

Naruto wouldn't be able to dodge this attack for more than a few seconds. Because this attack is shot and doesn't spawn, sasuke can simply lead naruto. He would already know where naruto was going before he even did it

and and FRS isn't beating this

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What run for his money is that?

Your whole premise relies on FRS isn't beating this, while mine relies on it does. Seen as we have no way to calculate this and it would probably be pushed either way depending on plot need, theres no point to this debate anymore.

 

[slimreaper]

As i said earlier. Amaterasu isn't hitting naruto, he can sense it coming and like you said, Enton is shot, not spawned, meaning Naruto dodges it without difficulty.

Same way naruto dodged 3rd riakage's attack even tho hes as fast as Ay.

Enton or amaterasu are dodged.

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A regular small FRS was able to cut mountains:

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An Odama FRS will damage/break Susano'o no doubt about it (Ps not included).

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Enton being shot actually makes it better for hitting a moving target than amaterasu for the reason that amaterasu cannot actually lead a target. The reason it can't is because the amaterasu would just spawn on whatever is behin the target. Enton has no such disadvange. Naruto would have no way to avoid something as wide as the enton magatama barrage when sasuke can see where hes going before he actually does.

the third raikage isn't as fast as ay and theat isn't a speed feat, its a reaction feat. Im done you're a fodder

You're whole premise relies on FRS isn't beating this, while mine relies on it does. Seen as we have no way to calculate this and it would probably be pushed either way depending on plot need, theres no point to this debate anymore.

FRS didn't even kill kakuzu or kurama both with direct hits, its isn't breaking a susanoo which tanked a tbb.


Its not like sasuke can't counter the arrow with enton adn make it a giant fire ball that would kill naruto. SO please act like that beats sasuke.

 

[6ari8]

It's pretty simple IMO.

EMS Sasuke > SM Naruto = MS Sasuke> Hebi Sasuke

 

[TrollKing]

As i said earlier. Amaterasu isn't hitting naruto, he can sense it coming and like you said, Enton is shot, not spawned, meaning Naruto dodges it without difficulty.

Same way naruto dodged 3rd riakage's attack even tho hes as fast as Ay.

Enton or amaterasu are dodged.

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A regular small FRS was able to cut mountains:

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An Odama FRS will damage/break Susano'o no doubt about it (Ps not included).

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Jubito sensing ability>>>naruto toad sm sensing ability. I think you giving jubi power to toad sm naruto