Lets be real Sakura is Stronger Than Hinata

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Lmao where are you getting your math & numbers from?

This is more than 7m of debris and that's chakra restricted.
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Maybe it's not 7 m exactly lol but my point is it's not enough for someone who jumped some 80m.

"Chakra restricted" is something you are bringing out of no where. Until Sakura displays a greater grounded CBI, this feat will remain her peak.
Sakura has also shattered an enclosing towering rock with CBI or one punch as well. Please tell me that the width and height of that peice of earth doesn't exceed 6-7m's, I haven't laughed in a long time :hinata:

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Crushing a boulder =/= Breaking the ground. The ground is far more difficult to break apart due to being far more dense. Common sense.

And this is what it would like when it hits the ground or disperses into pieces.

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Still not meteor-sized debris.


Sakura could simply produce a CBI and leave Hinata ro maneuver HERSELF through the impact/debris.

Like so...

Even greater depending on the amount of chakra she disperses

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Again, you're trying to claim a small 7m by 6m crater would be enough to be any sort of threat to someone who's jumped many times greater than that.

Stop saying "even greater if". I can just use this crap logic and say Hinata's Air Palm can be even greater depending on the amount of Chakra she load into her palm. Doesn't mean she can until its shown.

Then can follow up with another overwhelming CBI,

Except that wouldn't work on a battle field that's already been shattered.


How's she blitzing Hinata when Hinata was among the FIRST people to arrive at Naruto's location? And that was before her Rikudo Chakra buff!! She's fast too.
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And her eyes will allow her to keep up with Sakura's speed. And her taijutsu is also much faster w/ 64 Palms.

drop her elbow and cause crater size destruction that hinata can't air palm away.

Sakura isn't dropping anything. The moment she jumps in the air, that's the moment She's getting knocked out unconscious by Air Palm. Which, I will remind you, you still haven't given a counter for after I replied to your argument about it.

Lol oh really?

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Like I said, the alliance jumped some 80 m in 611. This thing is avoided by anyone. And yeah, this scan also doesn't counter the fact that the debris wasn't shown to be a threat.

I can even counter this with Sarada's CBI.
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Nice try but Sakura has actually proven the oppsite.

Danger where? Didn't she maneuver herself through rhe impact/debris that she caused?

Yeah, agree.

Even so, again, how is she even initiating an air CBI when Air Palm can intercept her before hand? Please answer this before you start day dreaming of rocks magically fighting on Sakura's behalf jsut because she punched the ground.

That's all I have time for, Sakura is clearly superior but your fixated on believing the opposite ecen though it's a commin consensus.

How is she superior when Hinata has the superior taijutsu style?
How is she superior when her punches are very linear and prectable?
How is she superior when her striking speed is inferior to Hinata's?
How is she superior when Air Palm can knock her out cold?
How is she superior when Air Palm can stop her airborne CBI?
How is she superior when Air Palm was fast enough to intercept the Juubi's Tail and catch 30% Kisame w/o him being able to react to or see it?
How is she superior when Hinata's eyes give her slow motion vision?
How is she superior when Hinata's speed is more or less on the same level as hers, if not greater?
How is she superior when Hinata has Rikudo Chakra that would buff her up by at least 4 fold?

Please don't bring up common consensus to pathetically make yourself feel better when 99.99% of the people here say SS is bull shit yet you constantly spend your time defending it.
 
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This is what happens when NDS invades the VS section.
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By Lady Trap's logic sasuke's fire ball should be at least larger than 3 or 4 bijuus lmao
 

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Thread has already ended. Pack it up boys
 
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By Lady Trap's logic sasuke's fire ball should be at least larger than 3 or 4 bijuus lmao

Depends if he wants to make it that big. He has the Chakra capacity to do so considering Obito and Madara pulled it off fine. And yeah, doesn't change the fact that Hinata's Air Palm was still large enough to cover the Juubi's Palm.
 

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The only thing that could make this debatable is the power she got from Hamura, but out of what she did during The Last after gaining the power there is nothing that makes her much stronger than she was before.

-Enough chakra to restore Naruto to a point where he could reuse KCM.

More Chakra means more power and speed. And if Hinata's reserves are enough to replenish KCM Naruto, that's already saying alot.

-Chakra became purple.

Meaning she was infusing her technique with Hamura's Chakra, giving it more power, just as Sasuke's Chidori changed color when infusing it with Hagoromo's Chakra.

-Can destroy the Tenseigan Energy Vessel w/ Naruto's help.

I know this statement is trying to undermine Hinata's power, so do keep in mind Hinata using the GENTLE Fist.

I'm seeing terrible logic such as transferring Hinata's Air Palm feats over to The Last Hinata because of the unknown amount of power she got from Hamura

She got enough to replenish KCM Naruto, as you yourself just said, which I'm sure you will agree is greater than a V2 Bijuu Cloak. So she is easily replicating that feat against the Juubi, especially with Hamura's Chakra being more potent than Bijuu Chakra.

even though Sasuke and Madara both had Hagoromo's chakra yet when they used their V3 Susanoo it was smaller than it was when Sasuke used it w/ Naruto's chakra. Sasuke's Katon didn't change size either.

Power of techniques can be controlled by the user. You ARE aware of this, right? This argument literally proves nothing.

Just as how Sasuke didn't use his full power Fireball against Shin cause he didn't want to kill him? Or are you going to suggest Adult Sasuke's Fireball can't even kill a little kid or even burn them unconscious? Just as how Sasuke pulled out a smaller Susnao'O to defend against Kaguya's needles? Same with Naruto controlling the size of his Rasengans or whether he is in Bijuu or Kyuubi Chakra Modes or controlling the size of his 9 Tails Avatar. Or how Kaguya controlled the intensity of the gravity in her dimension. Or how Kaguya controlled the size of her Vacuum Attack, where she could launch it like Air Palm or wrap it around her hands like TLF.

I could easily point out hundreds of more examples

So yeah, until I see real feats and not imaginary feats Sakura will always defeat Hinata with no higher than mid-high diff if I'm being generous.

Funny you say that when Sakura has never shown healing organs, bones, or limbs, and has only shown healing skin, yet you want to say Sakura can use those feats of Tsunade's. Nor has she shown any skill in fighting anyone actually good in taijutsu.

The only thing she has that will put Sakura down is 64 palms because she can block chakra points.

Air Palm is tanked

Air Palm takes her out too. Sakura got knocked out by hitting her head against a bridge and never showed any feats of tanking blunt force after that, so a well placed Air Palm can knock her unconsious and allow Hinata to deal with her as she pleases.
any damage she might take is simply healed from.

Depends on how fast she can heal herself, which she has no feats of. It's possible for Hinata to cripple her faster than she can heal w/ a 64 Palms + TLF combo. Hinata's 64 Palms was able to leave visible damage on a Juubi Clone's exterior when Jyuken doesn't even deal with that, so the damage done to the interior of a human with 64 Palms and TLF would be much greater, especially since Jyuken can't be tanked, meaning the same thing that happened to Kidomaru is happening to Sakura.

Air Palm and the rest of her feats are not factors because she is inferior to Sakura in movement speed

Must be why Hinata showed up to Naruto/Bee's location first.

reaction speed

Reacting to something far away =/= reacting to something at close range. This is common sense. Hinata has shown the better up-close reflexes by being able to use 64 Palms properly, where she needs to use her OWN reflexes, speed, and balance to keep the combo going and make sure the needle-tip small points on her finger align with same small points on the opponents body perfectly all while factoring in recoil.

not dramatically more skilled in close combat to the point where Sakura being comfortably superior in every way would be negated.

Hinata needs as little as one poke to stop Sakura's CES, so even then, it's still possible.

Even if I gave her Air Palm at the level she used it during the War, it's not strong enough to destroy her body to the point where Byakugo won't heal her so it really doesn't matter in terms of the outcome.

I do agree it isn't destroying her body, but it's still knocking her out cold when she got knocked out by a much weaker impact against a bridge.
Katsuyu is not needed and just makes it an even easier fight for Sakura.

Only ways she wins
 
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Still try to push the bs eh
Let us see size of rasengan remained same;size of chidori remained same;amaterau did not become bijuu sized thus zero evidence that vaccum palm would become larger.
Did twin Lion fists became bijuu sized no it remained as pathetic as before


Sasuke's fireball even as a kid was at least 10 times wider than hinata's vaccum palm so unless you bring me the scan where sasuke's fireball become's far larger than bijuu's you can shut your manhole :lol
 
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Katsuya is the only thing that will help her win this fight. Without Katsuya she'll be knocked out.
 

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This is a fact, only delusional butthurt haters deny.

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lol that combination logically doesn't make sense but its funny XD
 

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Still try to push the bs eh

lol I'm not trying to push anything when canon already showed Hinata's Air Palm increase in size and force with Bijuu Chakra. Rikudo Chakra easily replicates that.
Let us see size of rasengan remained same;

size of chidori remained same;

amaterau did not become bijuu sized

thus zero evidence that vaccum palm would become larger.

Did twin Lion fists became bijuu sized no it remained as pathetic as before
Different properties for different techs.

You're well aware Naruto and Sasuke can change the size of the rasnegans and flames they control, so don't bring this up.

Again, different properties for different techs. Same way Shikmaru's Shadow only got a stronger grip and didn't really change in size. Chidori may not have changed in size, but it became far more potent w/ Six Paths Chakra, same case for Hinata's Hamura-powered TLF.

There is 100% evidence in 616 that Air Palm does in fact get larger and more forceful with more potent Chakra and/or more Chakra reserves. Hinata got both of those, her reserves increased, moreso than what she got with Naruto's cloak snice her Chakra was enough to give Naruto KCM again, and her Chakra became more potent since it is Rikudo Chakra.

Air Palm increased with Bijuu Cloak because of the amount and potency.

Rikudo Chakra > Bijuu Chakra in potency.

Hinata was able to replenish KCM Naruto.

KCM reserves > V1 Cloak reserves.

Any reason to say Hinata can't do the same thing w/ her Rikudo Chakra that she did with the Bijuu Cloak? Nope, none at all. Unless you want to tell me what it is without bringing up other jutsus that have different properties and characteristics than Air Palm
 
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Wow spams bs all over again still fails to provide single scan of rikudo chakra making either the jitsu I denoted as large as bijuu :lol simple explanation your whole posts are shitty fanfics that makes no sense.Blatant lies and fabrication thus you can't support it yourself

This happens when your dumb mind runs out of idea and is inadept to read the manga logically.No wonder you are same dude that ranted hinata beating Deva path

Then we have another asinine fanfic from him that hinata replaced kcm naruto's reserve which is not true.She just transferred chakra and it was enough for him to go kcm mode.It is not even remotely close to replacing.We have seen naruto going kcm after god tree absorbed his chakra reserve.

Then let's talk about potency kyuubi chakra enhanced punched turned toneri into puddle while hinata remained pathetically zero threat to him the whole fight

And You can shut you manhole up unless you bring me feat sasuke's fireball growing massively in size :lol
 
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Wow spams bs all over again still fails to provide single scan of rikudo chakra making either the jitsu I denoted as large as bijuu :lol simple explanation your whole posts are shitty fanfics that makes no sense.Blatant lies and fabrication thus you can't support it yourself

This happens when your dumb mind runs out of idea and is inadept to read the manga logically.No wonder you are same dude that ranted hinata beating Deva path

Then we have another asinine fanfic from him that hinata replaced kcm naruto's reserve which is not true.She just transferred chakra and it was enough for him to go kcm mode.It is not even remotely close to replacing.We have seen naruto going kcm after god tree absorbed his chakra reserve.

Then let's talk about potency kyuubi chakra enhanced punched turned toneri into puddle while hinata remained pathetically zero threat to him the whole fight

And You can shut you manhole up unless you bring me feat sasuke's fireball growing massively in size :lol

Thanks :lol. I guess now I just need to wait on KidGamer to give an actual reasonable reply. Have fun with your temper tantrum.
 

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Thanks :lol. I guess now I just need to wait on KidGamer to give an actual reasonable reply. Have fun with your temper tantrum.

The only problem is he already did that on post #180 and you are still in adept to understand anything :vision:
 

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The only problem is he already did that on post #180 and you are still in adept to understand anything :vision:

Cool, now please go take your butthurt out on someone else if you don't plan on spewing anything outside of personal attacks, denying blatant facts, and using irrelevant comparisons to jutsus that don't even share the same qualities :axedance:
 

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Cool, now please go take your butthurt out on someone else if you don't plan on spewing anything outside of personal attacks, denying blatant facts, and using irrelevant comparisons to jutsus that don't even share the same qualities :axedance:

Now trying to pass his fan fiction as fact when he can't provide anything to support it :lol
But isn't this the same dude who stated Neji beating EMS sasuke via pokey pokey lmao

Also you wanted KG's explanation he has given it already.So how about you shut your manhole now :salt:
 
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