lets all be serious here, itachi should be in EVERYONES TOP 10 like it or not

[Baka Sennin]

Agree, but .. how come losers dont do this with "Prime" Hiruzen U_U

cause prime hiruzen is someone who is canon. healthy itachi is a random thing fanboys crop up to justify itachi's lack of stamina. the fact is, we neither know when itachi contracted his illness (he showed no symptons in pt1 yet very weak stamina), or even if it impacts stamina at all (kimimaro was clinically dead yet showed big stamina feats and had a very high stamina score in the databook).

itachi is an incredibly powerful shinobi, he's around 12 in my book. the people i'd put ahead of him are these (not in order)- hashirama, obito, dsm kabuto, nagato, ems madara, izuna (said to be ms madara's equal and ems madara beat both muu and oonoki so), sasuke, naruto, minato, hiruzen, kakashi (yeah with his current kamui mastery he fully deserves a top 10 spot, his speed and scope of it at all ranges make it the only legit 1 hit ko). I'm undecided about Hanzou, Tobirama, Muu, 2nd Mizukage and the 3rd Raikage. I'd say Itachi ranks somewhere in the top15 anyway.

the orochimaru battle is way overrated, he was going to break the genjutsu and anyhow that wound was nothing to ones he's shrugged off before like kabuto cutting his throat or even the 4 tailed kyuubi bisecting him. it was merely a display of power and orochimaru realised he could not perform his body transfer, if he wanted to keep fighting he would have made things very tough for itachi, although he'd probably still have lost.
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bottom line, itachi's a real powerful character, but he has his limitations- weak stamina and blurry vision tending to blindness, plus no real fallbacks if the sharingan is impaired. these can't be ignored any more than nagato being a cripple or the fact that madara reached his prime with ems, not rinnegan. anything else is just hypothetical

 

[Sexy Steel]

I could ask you the same. The Orochimaru who was portrayed as someone on Jiraya's level is outdated since it happened only in their youth. The ABC logic has no importance anyway. I already explained why Itachi was portrayed as someone on Jiraya's level. Now you can create all the speculations you want, the fact remains that it's how it is

@ bold ; what relevance does this hold, are you saying jman > oro ? i think not.
itachi > j-man, there are too many ways for itachi to end the fight quickly.

 

[Raikiri808]

Anyone who doesn't. Put him top 10 is just an uchiha hater