[VS] Let me tell you why Darui > Kakashi.

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When I look at Top 20 lists, I don't ever see Darui. Do you guys think he's weak or somethin'!?
Darui was the A's right hand man. You don't just call somebody your "right hand man" for no reason.
Darui is a master of Ranton, Storm Release.... or "Gale Style" if you've heard Storm 3's English Dub.
( It's weird that Darui got his Ranton from the 3rd Raikage, but the 3rd Raikage has never shown Ranton at all )

So Kakashi...
I know all of you guys will start riding his dick and say, "KAMUI!" but no. I don't think so.
Kakashi's stamina is shit. It's a mystery to why he hasn't gone blind yet.

Back when he was getting his ass beat by Pain, he never used Kamui. You know why? 'Cause Kamui is Kakashi's last resort. It's not something that can be spammed like Obito's Kamui. Only in recent chapters Kakashi has suddenly gotten the urge to spam Kamui. Maybe it's cause it's the only way to fight Obito, but he's forced to do it. He also received a boost from Naruto. So I'm saying Kakashi won't go head on and use Kamui. You guys think he'd just say, "Kamui" and it's over, but no. Kamui strains his eyes too much. He's not even an Uchiha.

NOW THAT I'M OFF OF KAMUI... Let's get on the feats.

Darui's Justu/Chakra Types include...
  • Ranton [Storm Release]
    An advanced chakra nature that surpasses regular Lightning. Darui's Lightning >> Kakashi's.
  • Raiton [Lightning Release]
    Raiton must be Darui's main chakra nature, so he's probably better at it than Kakashi.
  • Suiton [Water Release]
    Darui's second chakra nature. He's efficient at Suiton.
Darui's Items/Weaponry are.... (Yeah, he has Items too)
  • A Cleaver Sword
    Can channel Lightning through it
  • Benihisago (Crimson Gourd)
    Pretty useless 'cause Darui doesn't have the Kōkinjō
  • Kohaku no Jōhei (Sealing Urn)
    If Darui uses this, it's over. Yeah, that nigga can use this.
  • Shichiseiken (Seven Star Sword)
    Pretty useless 'cause Darui has never wielded the Kōkinjō



Kakashi has...
Well we all know what Kakashi has.
I'm too lazy to finish this, so yeah. Debate and agree, disagree, whatever.
Darui's Lightning >> Kakashi's
Darui's Suiton's Probably > Kakashi's

So if you disagree, explain. Blah Blah Blah.​
 

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This didn't make it to the front page? DAMN!
Can an Admin close this thread then?
 

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Eh, I'd say they are realistically equals. Every village has some Kakashi like ninja. Either a tad weaker or a tad stronger.

Kumo has Darui.

Suna has. . Baki?

Kiri has/had Ao and Zabuza

Iwa has. . . Kitsuchi? I'unno....
 

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"Kamui one shots" is the inevitable, so be prepared.

In character, Kakashi would definitely not begin with activating his MS and firing off a Kamui, you got that right. And actually, Kakashi (without the use of kamui) versus Darui would be an interesting fight. I'd say they're pretty even on those terms. If the fight were to escalate, and Kakashi is put in a life-threatening position, he will in fact resort to using the Kamui. If that is ever the case, Kakashi wins hands down. So restrict Kamui, and we got an interesting match up, IMO.

As far as Darui being top 20, definitely not. Their are too many shinobi in the 1-20 position that out class him. I'd say he's anywhere from 25-35. 35 being the absolute lowest position.
 

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I think Darui is better , in fact , i think Kakashi is not very strong . It's just that people take his kamui out of character saying it oneshots people .
 

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kamui is part of kakashis power. this is like me saying "well if that stoopid orochimaru cant use chakra then hed be soooo beaten by iruka!"
 

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I started taking this seriously the minute you started calling out the kamui d riders.
Maybe darui can win
 

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Let me tell you NO.
 

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Stopped reading when I heard Kakashi's stamina is shit.

He has been fighting kage level opponents and leading his division for days.

Darui displayed no stamina feats to suggest he is above Kakashi.

Anything he can do bar Storm Style can be copied via sharingan.

Raiton [Lightning Release]
Raiton must be Darui's main chakra nature, so he's probably better at it than Kakashi.

lol at this.

Kakashi has Lightning affinity. Not only that, anything Darui uses can be copied and used against him, whereas Darui can't copy Raikiri.

Kakashi wins even without Kamui.
 

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yeah he's greater that kakashi for sure but people don't see that
 

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Of course he is.

And Minato solos the sage, too.
 

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Stopped reading when I heard Kakashi's stamina is shit.

He has been fighting kage level opponents and leading his division for days.

Darui displayed no stamina feats to suggest he is above Kakashi.

Anything he can do bar Storm Style can be copied via sharingan.



lol at this.

Kakashi has Lightning affinity. Not only that, anything Darui uses can be copied and used against him, whereas Darui can't copy Raikiri.

Kakashi wins even without Kamui.

it's been stated from the start of the series. All this retcon shit from the war where everyone is OP contradicts the entire manga. Yea, ino using mind transfer to control juubi makes sense to you, huh? cool.
 

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it's been stated from the start of the series. All this retcon shit from the war where everyone is OP contradicts the entire manga. Yea, ino using mind transfer to control juubi makes sense to you, huh? cool.

Shippuden if filled with OP techs.

Kakashi's stamina isn't shi t anymore.
 

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Shippuden if filled with OP techs.

Kakashi's stamina isn't shi t anymore.

He killed himself off 1 kamui in pain arc. That wasn't that long ago. Maybe 3 months at best, certainly not a year.

He went from 1 kamui = passout for a week
to some jutsu and kamui = death
to kamui kamui kamui kamui jutsu jutsu jutsu jutsu lelellel i have never ending stamina, in a few months? In a shorter period than between those first two cases? no.
 

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Kakashi doesn't need Kamui to defeat him.
Darui top 20? Just no. He lacks firepower to belong in such category. Imo he must be around top 35.
Kakashi uses Kagebunshin to test and analyse the opponent, plus, Darui's Raiton and Suiton can be copied and used against him. Kakashi's taijutsu is superior, in terms of intelligence Kakashi is better too.
 

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He killed himself off 1 kamui in pain arc. That wasn't that long ago. Maybe 3 months at best, certainly not a year.

He went from 1 kamui = passout for a week
to some jutsu and kamui = death
to kamui kamui kamui kamui jutsu jutsu jutsu jutsu lelellel i have never ending stamina, in a few months? In a shorter period than between those first two cases? no.

it was 2 kamui, 2 raikiri,1 beast runner, 1 earth wall, 1 lightening clone, and 1 shadow clone.
his stamina is pretty good.
 

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He killed himself off 1 kamui in pain arc. That wasn't that long ago. Maybe 3 months at best, certainly not a year.

He went from 1 kamui = passout for a week
to some jutsu and kamui = death
to kamui kamui kamui kamui jutsu jutsu jutsu jutsu lelellel i have never ending stamina, in a few months? In a shorter period than between those first two cases? no.

Yes, he did.

It doesn't make much sense, but it's manga canon.
 

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kamui is part of kakashis power. this is like me saying "well if that stoopid orochimaru cant use chakra then hed be soooo beaten by iruka!"

oro beats iruka without chakra what are u smokin his taijutsu and kinjutsu < iruka over alot
 
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