I still can't believe people put Konan below Tsunade and Sakura when she's immune to taijutsu altogether.
How so ? Everthing I've said has been backed up canon, while your empty claims of her having good enough evasive skills to dodge Kurotsuchi's lava style are nothing more than empty hype which is contradicted by negative feats in said category. Or your even more ludicrous claim of her being able to out speed Mei despite her being able to rect to Madara's attacks . Not to mention her Acid Style would make it impossible for Sakura to get near her.
None of my claims are empty or subject to opinion..
Sakura out bar's Mei and Kurotsuchi in every strong aspects by feats Taijutsu, Strength and Intellect.
Now yes, do they have KKG yes but that's not determining the battle. Karin easily evaded Mei's Lava by throwing herself in the opposite direction and Sakura's tiers ahead of her. Kurotsuchi's techniques have never been demonstrated on any large scales as Mei's but I will say they appear faster but Sakura has demonstrated good enough speed to evade kid, the only leg up she has on Sakura is her flight because on the ground she get demolished low-diff.
lol and Mei reacted to creditably to Madara's attacks? No, she was the weak link.
None of my claims are empty or subject to opinion..
Sakura out bar's Mei and Kurotsuchi in every strong aspects by feats Taijutsu, Strength and Intellect.
Now yes, do they have KKG yes but that's not determining the battle. Karin easily evaded Mei's Lava by throwing herself in the opposite direction and Sakura's tiers ahead of her. Kurotsuchi's techniques have never been demonstrated on any large scales as Mei's but I will say they appear faster but Sakura has demonstrated good enough speed to evade kid, the only leg up she has on Sakura is her flight because on the ground she get demolished low-diff.
lol and Mei reacted to creditably to Madara's attacks? No, she was the weak link.
Please, Sakura is dumber than both of them. And her taijutsu is hardly anything that can be considered a threat, seeing as how slow and bad it is. She got owned in Taijutsu by Omoi, and here you are thinking she can actually take on two Kages.
Which chapter did Karin do this ? As far as I recall, Mei wasn't even attempting to hit Karin, but rather, Sasuke.
Did you not read? I was refering to when she countered his fire ball attacks?
Also, I would prefer if your replied to my LAP instead.
Already did. Mito has KCM & Yin Seal, which already put her far above Sakura. And Kushina has her chains that were able to restrain a Bijuu and speed that far surpasses Sakura's. If anything, she could easily blitz Sakura.
When Mito showed KCM? She was the Jinchuriki of the Kyuubi, does that automatically mean she mastered KCM?
Tobi said she can notice people hostility, not that she mastered KCM, 2 different things.
And what about Byakugou? Since Tsunade stated she invented that technique, and Madara, Hashirama's rival, didn't know anything about it, It doesn't seem plausible to me It's the same technique, It's kind of unlikely and ignorant of Madara not knowing about how skilled is your eternal enemy/friend's wife. So, all I know is she has a diamond mark in her forehead, that's it.
Sakura has no speed feats to compare to Mei. On the other hand, Mei was fighting and keeping up w/ Madara and his jutsus, being able to react and counter his Fireballs.
How many times do I have to go over how bad Sakura's evasive skills are before you stop wanking it like it's the best thing in the universe?
Sakura has failed to evade the following
1. Couldn’t dodge Omoi’s fodder kick
2. Couldn’t dodge A single wooden spike and needed saving from Kakashi
3. Couldn’t dodge Sasuke’s chidori and needed saving from Kakashi
4. Couldn’t dodge Kabuto’s butt, which knocked her out cold
5. Couldn’t dodge a flying rock
6. Couldn't dodge 4-tailed Naruto's tail
Her only good evasive feats are against Sasori’s puppets, and even then, that is undermined by the fact that Sakura essentially had prep time to analyze Sasori’s attack pattern while chiyo controlled her and kept her safe from harm. Otherwise, she would have died instantly.
In other words, if Sakura has no prep time to analyze the opponents attack pattern, then she won’t be able to avoid them easily.
In fact, Sakura was only able to avoid certain death 13 times due to chiyo saving her ass with her puppetry skills from sasori’s attacks and her having prep time to make 3 antidotes, of which 2 were used on her.
3 times in 265
4 times in 267
1 time in 268
2 times in 269
1 time in 270
1 time in 271
1 time in 273
2 times in 274
Thats a total of 15 fails of Sakura avoiding Sasori’s attacks, adding the fails from the list above, and we’ve got 21 moments where Sakura has failed to use her “super awesome” evasive skills.
So stop trying to make is seem like her evasive skills are something so great and amazing when they really aren’t anything impressive at all.
Yes, she did failed all those times, but that doesn't mean she is slow, or that her evasion skills are bad either. She was fighting an Akatsuki, and she was just a 15 year old Chunnin. Who among the others Kunoichis her age could?
Chiyo said that in order to void Sasori's was required 2 things:
Previous knoledge from the enemy's weapons
Having the skill to make decisions in fragments of seconds.
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It is obvious that Sakura can't do any of that by that time... but by the end Chiyo stated how incredible it is that in such a small amount of time she figured out Sasor's attack pattern and that she could have done it without her help:
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It's funny how many times Sakura has been praised by very talented shinobies, and you still dare to downgrade her Lol
Omoi, is probably faster than Sakura, and Hinata too, why do you called him fodder? He was trained by Bee, who would have soloed Taka Sasuke if his team hadn't helped him, and he ended up being the Raikage's bodyguard.
Hinata didn't evade none of the spikes either, she was safe from them behind her cousin and father's Kaiten, then Naruto used FRS to block most of the ones falling where they were standing. She managed to reflect one with a long range technique while Byakugan was on. BRAVO!
Hinata has better taijutsu and reflexes in comparison to Sakura, so she definitely will push Sakura back. Her taijutsu in the last was shown to be on par w/ base Naruto and Hiashi's.
Omg.... Your post are full of sig material... How on earth did you concluded that?
Naruto evaded her attacks with no diff at all, and still was able to defeat her without hurting her.
Hinata on pair with Hiashi? What have you been drinking? Hiashi was attacked by a great number of puppets which were actually trying to kill him, that's why they used their powerful projectiles against him, but in Hinata's case, they didn't and she only used Juuken, which was not stupid to think that wouldn't work against puppets, still she kept fighting like that until Toneri caught her...
All she needs to do is close her chakra points to win, and, sure, Sakura can reopen them if her seal is closed, but if that's the case, it would mean her organs would not heal from the heavy damage gentle fist would cause to them, assumign it doesn't straight out kill her. Sooner or later Sakura will need to release the seal to either unlock any blocked points, any internal damage done, or both. And if her Yin seal is released and she gets her chakra points closed, she would lose access to her healing abilities.
Lol Sakura has proven to be way smarter than that, she has seen in battle all Hyuuga's techniques, and the scenario you pictured of Hinata closing Sakura's chakra points is full of cr*p:
Sakura could always smash the ground and send any living being flying away if she is in a dangerous position she cannot evade.
As I said Sakura, knows what she is dealing with, 64 palms is a direct attack that requires a particular stance in the beginning, really easy to identify, it's not like anyone require to be a smart and analytic shinobi like Sakura to realize it. There many ways to evade it for Sakura: She has already jumped great distances in a very short time, she has sleep-gas grenades, as I said before, crashing the ground like in chapter 632 will do the trick too.
Even if she get hit by the 64 palms she could always release chakra from the seal, unblocking the coils and heal her injuries with Souzo Saisei instantly. We both know for a fact that this will work always her seal remains closed when she received the attack from Hinata, so all she needs to do is use the seal when she needs and close it back to protect her chakra flow.
It's true that Hinata has better taijutsu than Sakura, and better reflexes only with active Byakugan, but that doesn't give her the victory, Hyuugas have failed before even while using Byakugan both in evasion and analytic skills.
Neji was caught by a Zetsu from behind: (just for the record, the Zetsu didn't die)
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Neji was saved by Hinata (somehow that was never explained, in the Anime she saved him with an Air palm):
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Hiashi couldn't evade one projectile from Toneri's puppets or the rocks that fell down...
Hinata couldn't realize how Tobi's jutsu worked before Sakura did it.
Hinata couldn't evade the 3 Zetsus that almost killed her.
Hinata fell to the ground when a second ago she was using Byakugan to see Naruto, she could have noticed the rock before that happens. To begin with Kiba was the one that told her to use Byakugan to find him on her own, since she is, at the end, a Hyuuga.
Hinata reflexes may be enhanced with Byakugan, but when it comes to walking, running, jumping, this girl is quite... clumsy.
She tripped 3 times on canon, 1 in the manga, 2 on the movie.
Yes, she mastered the 64 palms, but she did it 3 years after her cousin, and she has yet to show Kaiten...
Also, without Byakugan her reflexes are very bad, she couldn't even evade by herself the Tonerís Golem in the Last, while all her teammates did.
What? You mean chakra control? Actually, there is a translation of Sakura's 4th Databook profile which states Sakura, at her early age is already as talented in chakra control as her master.
DB repeats that Sakura caught up to Naruto and Sasuke (in the moment that Sakura states such in the manga). It's something along the lines, Sakura is a special case her level was hidden. However while Naruto and Sasuke were always running ahead of her she finally caught up to them.
Pushing forward through rigorous training. Eventually she blossomed or insert other flower nonsense to stand for becoming great here. She polished/improved/refines her strong arm and medical ninjutsu.
Sakura had the same chakra control and talent as Tsunade, and before long it blossomed. (So I guess her chakra control is >= to Tsunade's now lol).
Sakura's talent allowed her to inherit Tsunade's Kinjutsu (Byakugo, i'm assuming).
Stuff about helping her teammates or watching their back being her strong point, saving Sasuke from his darkness, meh, I kind of got board and skipped through this section (lol). Than skipped over the pairing page, if there's something interesting i'm sorry, but I just can't even.
I think it says she received Shizune's techniques as Shizune also trained her like an older sister. I think it also says she surpass Shizune, but I'm really skimming now.
Talks about the rules of being a medic and how the medic should naturally stay out of the front lines. Except when they have the Ninjutsu "Sousou Saisei Byakugou". Sakura adopted the Jutsu due to her incredible talent. The ability to surpass ones own self healing, and heal ones own wounds right on the spot, that's the power "Sousou Sisei Byakgou"
The weapon that Sakura has that that the enemy should fear is her Herculean strength.
Tsunade blitz'd Kabuto, Madara, and Orochimaru and had her speed compared to Ay's by Madara. sakura's best speed feat is dodging an unstable Juubi. Wonderful.
Almost evading Sasori's poisoned chain, causing her a minor wound that she never healed and kept fighting.
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Avoiding the attacks of Sasori's puppets (she was not being controlled by Chiyo):
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Protecting Chiyo from Sasori, even though she was pretty far from them:
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Blitzing Zetsu:
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Jumping a great distance in seconds to protect Naruto and Sasuke from the AOE that her attack causes. She even caught the same Juubi minion that she had attacked in first place in that only jump:
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Tanking some acid to protect Obito, without any healing, and carrying him to a safe place before the acid took them:
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Being able to evade for a short period of time one of the unstable Juubi's hands, that according to Naruto they were travelling "too damn fast!":
Comparing potential and natural talent, not power, that why he use the word "might or "probably".
Besides, with your way of thinking, how come Tsunade's strength never improved from when she was younger?
Sakura has the greatest strength feat between them, and their strength seems to be on pair if we compare all the times they used CES in the manga.
Again, this is stupid... and looks really lame and desperate move, like when you said Hinata received chakra from Hamura judging only for her chakra color.
And please, don't make me get started with " Hinata's flying skills".
PD: There is a reason Sakura become a Jounin before Hinata, don't be stubborn...
Of course Kaguya is No. 1 If we are considering dead Kunoichi's and God-like.
When Mito showed KCM? She was the Jinchuriki of the Kyuubi, does that automatically mean she mastered KCM?
Tobi said she can notice people hostility, not that she mastered KCM, 2 different things.
And what about Byakugou? Since Tsunade stated she invented that technique, and Madara, Hashirama's rival, didn't know anything about it, It doesn't seem plausible to me It's the same technique, It's kind of unlikely and ignorant of Madara not knowing about how skilled is your eternal enemy/friend's wife. So, all I know is she has a diamond mark in her forehead, that's it.
From distance, yes, and she failed a couple of times too.
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Yes, she did failed all those times, but that doesn't mean she is slow, or that her evasion skills are bad either. She was fighting an Akatsuki, and she was just a 15 year old Chunnin. Who among the others Kunoichis her age could?
Chiyo said that in order to void Sasori's was required 2 things:
Previous knoledge from the enemy's weapons
Having the skill to make decisions in fragments of seconds.
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It is obvious that Sakura can't do any of that by that time... but by the end Chiyo stated how incredible it is that in such a small amount of time she figured out Sasor's attack pattern and that she could have done it without her help:
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It's funny how many times Sakura has been praised by very talented shinobies, and you still dare to downgrade her Lol
Omoi, is probably faster than Sakura, and Hinata too, why do you called him fodder? He was trained by Bee, who would have soloed Taka Sasuke if his team hadn't helped him, and he ended up being the Raikage's bodyguard.
Hinata didn't evade none of the spikes either, she was safe from them behind her cousin and father's Kaiten, then Naruto used FRS to block most of the ones falling where they were standing. She managed to reflect one with a long range technique while Byakugan was on. BRAVO!
Omg.... Your post are full of sig material... How on earth did you concluded that?
Naruto evaded her attacks with no diff at all, and still was able to defeat her without hurting her.
Hinata on pair with Hiashi? What have you been drinking? Hiashi was attacked by a great number of puppets which were actually trying to kill him, that's why they used their powerful projectiles against him, but in Hinata's case, they didn't and she only used Juuken, which was not stupid to think that wouldn't work against puppets, still she kept fighting like that until Toneri caught her...
Lol Sakura has proven to be way smarter than that, she has seen in battle all Hyuuga's techniques, and the scenario you pictured of Hinata closing Sakura's chakra points is full of cr*p:
Sakura could always smash the ground and send any living being flying away if she is in a dangerous position she cannot evade.
As I said Sakura, knows what she is dealing with, 64 palms is a direct attack that requires a particular stance in the beginning, really easy to identify, it's not like anyone require to be a smart and analytic shinobi like Sakura to realize it. There many ways to evade it for Sakura: She has already jumped great distances in a very short time, she has sleep-gas grenades, as I said before, crashing the ground like in chapter 632 will do the trick too.
Even if she get hit by the 64 palms she could always release chakra from the seal, unblocking the coils and heal her injuries with Souzo Saisei instantly. We both know for a fact that this will work always her seal remains closed when she received the attack from Hinata, so all she needs to do is use the seal when she needs and close it back to protect her chakra flow.
It's true that Hinata has better taijutsu than Sakura, and better reflexes only with active Byakugan, but that doesn't give her the victory, Hyuugas have failed before even while using Byakugan both in evasion and analytic skills.
Neji was caught by a Zetsu from behind: (just for the record, the Zetsu didn't die)
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Neji was saved by Hinata (somehow that was never explained, in the Anime she saved him with an Air palm):
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Hiashi couldn't evade one projectile from Toneri's puppets or the rocks that fell down...
Hinata couldn't realize how Tobi's jutsu worked before Sakura did it.
Hinata couldn't evade the 3 Zetsus that almost killed her.
Hinata fell to the ground when a second ago she was using Byakugan to see Naruto, she could have noticed the rock before that happens. To begin with Kiba was the one that told her to use Byakugan to find him on her own, since she is, at the end, a Hyuuga.
Hinata reflexes may be enhanced with Byakugan, but when it comes to walking, running, jumping, this girl is quite... clumsy.
She tripped 3 times on canon, 1 in the manga, 2 on the movie.
Yes, she mastered the 64 palms, but she did it 3 years after her cousin, and she has yet to show Kaiten...
Also, without Byakugan her reflexes are very bad, she couldn't even evade by herself the Tonerís Golem in the Last, while all her teammates did.
What? You mean chakra control? Actually, there is a translation of Sakura's 4th Databook profile which states Sakura, at her early age is already as talented in chakra control as her master.
DB repeats that Sakura caught up to Naruto and Sasuke (in the moment that Sakura states such in the manga). It's something along the lines, Sakura is a special case her level was hidden. However while Naruto and Sasuke were always running ahead of her she finally caught up to them.
Pushing forward through rigorous training. Eventually she blossomed or insert other flower nonsense to stand for becoming great here. She polished/improved/refines her strong arm and medical ninjutsu.
Sakura had the same chakra control and talent as Tsunade, and before long it blossomed. (So I guess her chakra control is >= to Tsunade's now lol).
Sakura's talent allowed her to inherit Tsunade's Kinjutsu (Byakugo, i'm assuming).
Stuff about helping her teammates or watching their back being her strong point, saving Sasuke from his darkness, meh, I kind of got board and skipped through this section (lol). Than skipped over the pairing page, if there's something interesting i'm sorry, but I just can't even.
I think it says she received Shizune's techniques as Shizune also trained her like an older sister. I think it also says she surpass Shizune, but I'm really skimming now.
Talks about the rules of being a medic and how the medic should naturally stay out of the front lines. Except when they have the Ninjutsu "Sousou Saisei Byakugou". Sakura adopted the Jutsu due to her incredible talent. The ability to surpass ones own self healing, and heal ones own wounds right on the spot, that's the power "Sousou Sisei Byakgou"
The weapon that Sakura has that that the enemy should fear is her Herculean strength.
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And what makes you think Sakura doesn't? May be she has less base strength than Tsunade, but she has a base strength feat too:
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Besides, Sakura has been told to have Tsunade's strength before... Hashirama even said she could be stronger than Tsunade.
Sakura's Speed Feats:
Blitzing The Fourth Kazekage's Puppet:
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Almost evading Sasori's poisoned chain, causing her a minor wound that she never healed and kept fighting.
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Avoiding the attacks of Sasori's puppets (she was not being controlled by Chiyo):
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Protecting Chiyo from Sasori, even though she was pretty far from them:
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Blitzing Zetsu:
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Jumping a great distance in seconds to protect Naruto and Sasuke from the AOE that her attack causes. She even caught the same Juubi minion that she had attacked in first place in that only jump:
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Tanking some acid to protect Obito, without any healing, and carrying him to a safe place before the acid took them:
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Being able to evade for a short period of time one of the unstable Juubi's hands, that according to Naruto they were travelling "too damn fast!":
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Comparing potential and natural talent, not power, that why he use the word "might or "probably".
Besides, with your way of thinking, how come Tsunade's strength never improved from when she was younger?
Sakura has the greatest strength feat between them, and their strength seems to be on pair if we compare all the times they used CES in the manga.
Again, this is stupid... and looks really lame and desperate move, like when you said Hinata received chakra from Hamura judging only for her chakra color.
And please, don't make me get started with " Hinata's flying skills".
PD: There is a reason Sakura become a Jounin before Hinata, don't be stubborn...