Lee Should Have DESTROYED Gaara During the Chuunin Exams

[TurrinB]

If Lee won than we wouldn't have any real arc left.

 

[Piratefish]

If Lee won than we wouldn't have any real arc left.

That IS true, and also Lee, as a character, would have served no purpose. Kishi stated that he was created pretty much to be a symbol the fragility of the human body.

 

[PretaPath]

But then it obviously IS, because unweighted Lee easily punches and kicks past the Automatic version. Manga over Wiki, dude.



He can activate the initial version of the Armor, true. It takes longer to use the improved version. And the initial version is nowhere near enough.



Because Lee is about as fast as Dosu. Wait, he ISN'T? In fact, while using the Gates, he's FASTER than Tournament-Sasuke, who managed to evade the sand?!

Would that mean Lee wouldn't immediately be crushed by even a partial Shukaku-form? It certainly looks that way.

Does the Partial Change retain the ability to use Sand Armor? No?

So Lee's attacks would be effective.

Were even Naruto's CLONES enough to overwhelm and damage the Partial transformation? Yes? So Lee's taijutsu would be MORE than enough.

What defeated Shukaku, in the end? Was it TAIJUTSU? Do we know a character who is good in TAIJUTSU?



He may not have been injured, but that doesn't mean it was an EASY fight for him. Especially when he focused EXCLUSIVELY on protecting himself for most of it.

He didn't USE Shukaku. If he had, he wouldn't have fared as well as he did...



Not quite.

The wikia says right, stop contradicting every single proofs and admit you're wrong instead of digging yourself deep.

There's no such thing as improved or initial version of his armor, it's just armor of sand, again you're pulling false theories out of your ass instead of giving decent replies.

Now you want to start arguing on wether Lee can defeat Shukaku or not? Wouldn't you rather argue on if elephants can fly? That would be more logical, in my opinion.

What else could Gaara have done apart from protecting himself for the time? He couldn't catch up Lee's speed so he waited for him to worn out to crush him. In the end Gaara was fine , as fine as he was at the beginning of the match while Lee was half dead on the ground with a broken leg and arm Gaara had a hard time defeating him? My ass. It was child play.

Now just admit Lee is fodder and everyone that he used to looked down to has surpassed him.

 

[Sasuke082594]

First of all Gai stating the Lotus is strong enough to break sand armor is true, but Gaara isn't any ordinary Sand Ninja. Gai under estimated his defense. Second of all Gaara didn't win by plot. It's clearly proven he won because he was the superior fighter.

 

[UchihaMadara026]

this is long gone no point in debating about it

 

[crysis04]

lee is great even do he was defeated by garra

 

[narmeiter]

Yep, the way gaara was getting pummeled in the earlier gates, he should have been out cold after 5th gate attack. But i guess kishi's xplanation of him closing his eyes got the better of him.

 

[012kabina]

The naruto vs neji fight was the worse, out of the whole fight neji loses by a uppercut.
seems legit.

nah...i dnt tink so

 

[Trollo Lucilfer]

useless

 

[ReZ]

i guess gaara enhanced his sand armour.or you could say pnj

Stop saying plot no jutsu,such a term does not exist.There is only plot

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[Destruction of Konoha]

This

I second this

 

[zinescience]

well either way gaara still would have won he would have somehow unleashed that 1 tail and killied lee soooo yea

that is right

 

[BlueNote]

great theory dude + rep

I have read through this thread and all I can say about some people commenting is.

Pretapath you are a dumbass that needs to grow up and hope off whoever **** your riding, you litteraly contribute nothing to a conversation but flame. If all you want to do is start a fight with someone stfu get off the internet and go fight someone in real life and after you get your ass kicked and learn some manners come back and try to be a decent poster.

 

[Uchiha Sutona]

I think it was a fair battle... and lee should have won.. but i think the battle wasn't about who won and who lost, i think it was to show how scary gaara was as a person in part 1. i think it was to strike fear into everyone, and show how strong gaara is and how much he can withstand (which is BS) and then later after the Gaara vs sasuke battle that never finished, naruto beats gaara, to show that naruto can overcome a person like gaara, even when lee in the 5th gates could not.

 

[Uchiha boii]

"fuly utilize" is stretching it MIGHTILY. He can't use the Gates. He's capable of evading the sand, just like Lee was, and he's fast enough to make use of the Chidori. But the piercing power of the Chidori is inferior to the Extreme Lotus in how much damage it can deal.

Gaara should have ended up as broken as the floor. There's such a thing as internal damage, and even through the Armor Lee should have been able to induce significant amounts of it...

earth<lighting the chidori is garras worst nightmare any raiton technique will cut through garras defense like butter

 

[HadouKage]

The wikia says right, stop contradicting every single proofs and admit you're wrong instead of digging yourself deep.

There's no such thing as improved or initial version of his armor, it's just armor of sand, again you're pulling false theories out of your ass instead of giving decent replies.

Now you want to start arguing on wether Lee can defeat Shukaku or not? Wouldn't you rather argue on if elephants can fly? That would be more logical, in my opinion.

What else could Gaara have done apart from protecting himself for the time? He couldn't catch up Lee's speed so he waited for him to worn out to crush him. In the end Gaara was fine , as fine as he was at the beginning of the match while Lee was half dead on the ground with a broken leg and arm Gaara had a hard time defeating him? My ass. It was child play.

Now just admit Lee is fodder and everyone that he used to looked down to has surpassed him.

You know the wikia is written by fans like you, I and the whole fan base right?

 

[Kira was Righteous]

I agree i would love to see current gaara vs 5 gates lee

 

[Piratefish]

The wikia says right, stop contradicting every single proofs and admit you're wrong instead of digging yourself deep.

Wiki is written by fans. Have you NEVER come across a public encyclopedia displaying blatantly wrong information?

If my posts are accurate according to the manga, and if you don't shout about how something is stupid I assume it must be entirely correct, then what says on the Wiki matters NOTHING at ALL.

There's no such thing as improved or initial version of his armor, it's just armor of sand, again you're pulling false theories out of your ass instead of giving decent replies.

Well then I guess everything in my opening post is valid and a single unweighted punch >>> the Extreme Lotus.

Gaara realized regular Sand Armor wouldn't be enough, and concentrated it further with additional sand. Tell me what Gaara is doing HERE, then, if not enhancing the Sand Armor?:

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Now you want to start arguing on wether Lee can defeat Shukaku or not? Wouldn't you rather argue on if elephants can fly? That would be more logical, in my opinion.

And I respect your opinion. Waitaminute... I don't! At all!

What else could Gaara have done apart from protecting himself for the time? He couldn't catch up Lee's speed so he waited for him to worn out to crush him. In the end Gaara was fine , as fine as he was at the beginning of the match while Lee was half dead on the ground with a broken leg and arm Gaara had a hard time defeating him? My ass. It was child play.

Yes. Gaara could only protect himself, because LEE WAS IN CONTROL. If Gaara hadn't used the more powerful Sand Armor when he did, Lee would have won. If Lee had exhausted less stamina before using Extreme Lotus, he would have won. The battle could have gone either way in terms of the combat ability shown. If you disagree, there's really no hope of reaching an understanding here.

Now just admit Lee is fodder and everyone that he used to looked down to has surpassed him.

Lee has been ignored during Shippuden, that much I admit. He's not, comparatively speaking, as powerful as during Part 1.

But agree with THIS? How blatantly, idiotically biased can you GET? You are literally stating that EVERYONE weaker than Lee during Part 1 are stronger than him now.

EDIT: Not gonna be able to reply for a while, as I'm leaving the country.

 

[SAmIDeXtEr]

This is valid, If lee had kept on going.....innocent spectator's would have been placed in a terrible situation..xd

Lee would have gotten obliterated because non of the hidden leaves knew he gaara was the one tail jinchuriki....:rofl:

There would have been casualties, that's for sure..

 

[garasandman]

OOO MAn we have a same idea .
no one can miss that hit soooo how gara can miss it.
do not think that he has a sand shield u saw that he had a bad hit but....... .
WHAT DID HAPPEN?