[VS] Law vs Sabo
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Low diff? You really see Sabo being able to knock out Law with the most minimum of effort? The same dude who was able to withstand an assault from both Fujitora and Doflamingo while making them chase him while using the fruit that drains his energy, and then took TWO other assaults from Doflamingo while his fruit continued to drain his energy without resting in-between(I don't count him being chained up in the Heart seat as resting because he was covered in Seastone, which drains and suppresses the user's stamina, so it's unlikely he was able to recover what he lost)? Law's stamina is unreal, there's no way that Sabo is knocking him out easily even if Law himself can't do much harm Sabo.
I also don't see how Sabo is a level above Law. Law has shown greater range, could affect Doflamingo on the same level as a Gear Fourth assault with Gamma Knife, could keep up with Doflamingo who has better physical strength and speed feats than Fujitora, who Sabo stalemated with.
What really puts Sabo a level above Law?
Edit: Wew, just realized Law had the physical speed and reaction capabilities to block Overheat, an insanely fast technique easily up there with any of Sabo's movement feats. Law actually has a better chance than I thought, given that with a speed/reaction feat like this he could probably cut Sabo using Radio Knife when the Revolutionary tries to get in close.
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Still waiting to see these "dozens of people" that hurt Luffy and helped Doflamingo. Convenient that you forgot to reply with that.
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Fujitora's speed and strength are below Doflamingo's. The latter could withstand a Jet Gatling, while Fujitora was pushed back by the force of Gear Second punches and kicks. Law was capable of parrying blows from Doflamingo, including this blow[
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]. Sabo on the other hand only ever stalled with Fujitora, which means at the very least, Law is within the same ballpark as Sabo when it comes to strength.When it comes to speed, Shambles and Law's Overheat feat puts him above any speed feats Sabo has ever shown.
Law also has the stamina sufficient to allow him to take a beating by Fujitora and Doflamingo while making them chase him while using a fruit that drains his stamina. After that, he takes another beating from Doflamingo, again using the stamina-draining fruit, and while knocked out, he was placed in seastone chains. Given that seastone drains and suppresses the strength of DF eaters, it's unlikely that while Law was passed out in the Heart seat, he was able to regain any stamina. He then took a third beating from Doflamingo while AGAIN using a fruit that drains his stamina, to the point that he was so exhausted that it began to affect his lifespan rather than just his energy. And even then, he didn't pass out until after Doffy was defeated, and was able to use his powers a couple times in that beat up state as well. With this kind of stamina, even if Law can't harm Sabo himself, Sabo isn't putting down Law with low-diff effort. It took two beatings across the span of a day from Doflamingo(and implied damage from Fujitora) just to knock Law out once, and Sabo has no feats that put him above either of those men. That's not even mentioning the toll from Law's fruit and the fact that he had only very small periods to sit around and regain stamina(and it's not like his stamina would just build up again like some of health meter). There is zero way Sabo is taking down Law with anything short of high diff effort.
Withstood an assault? All we saw was the meteor come down then the rest of the fight was off-paneled and it ended up in Law being retained with neither opponents showing any sign or fatigue or damage. Sure Law has good stamina but neither Doffy or Fujitora were going for the kill in their against Law on Green bit.
Law has better range via amputation and tact, both moves won't affect Sabo, while Law isn't fast enough to land a Gamma Knife on Sabo without a distraction or he probably would've used it on Doffy without having to rely on Luffy (Gamma Knife is a strong move for sure but it's useless if it never lands a hit). Law can hardly 'keep up' with Doffy seeing how when he end up one on one with Doffy he got completely beaten not to mention having better 'physical feats' than Fujitora isn't that impressive seeing how Fujitora hasn't trying to flex or showcase on sort of mad physical feats and has just sat back and used his DF most of time. Fujitora is an Admiral and gets the benefit of the doubt that physically he is on par with the other Admirals.
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LOL I just addressed that in my other post. Fujitora being below Doffy in strength is laughable, he was pushed back by a jet gatlaing yet in their skirmish Fujitora was blocking blows from G3 Luffy.
I also addressed the stamina part. Law surviving Fujitora and Doffy is impressive but not as nearly as you think, neither at that time were going for the kill and were fighting to restrain Law. While we don't know is seastone fully negates the user regaining stamina, it simply negates DF powers. Law was beaten up and restrained by a Doffy and Fuji figthing not to kill and then was beaten up by Doffy and could've easily been killed by him at any time, I think you're confusing stamina with durability.
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Doflamingo's and Fujitora's conditions are irrelevant, especially when you consider the level of both men going at Law at the same time and the fact that Law was trying to stall for time(Put Sabo or Luffy in that position, and you get the same result).
Law went from perfectly fine to beat up. That indicates he took some kind of beating/assault.
This doesn't mean that Sabo is a level above Law, it simply means that Sabo is a bad match-up for many of Law's techniques. The same way that Mr. 3's fruit is a bad match-up for Magellan's, even though Magellan is far stronger. The same way that Luffy vs Magellan was a bad match-up for Luffy despite Luffy having similar strength feats to Magellan. Comparing feats of Sabo and Law, what feats have Sabo shown that places him above Law?
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1. When has Sabo shown speed feats on par with Doflamingo?
2. When has Sabo shown speed feats on par with Law's Overheat feat?
Except Law has shown to be able to comfortably keep up with Doflamingo in terms of speed, and only been caught-off guard due to Doflamingo's knowledge on the Ope Ope no Mi and knowing how to get around the attacks, with a couple being too weak.
And yet Sabo only managed to match this physical powerhouse while using the Mera Mera no Mi to amplify his attack, so that places him below even Law.
No he doesn't. Feats or no dice.
Fujitora was never pushed back by G2 attacks; In fact, he was blocking G3 attacks with one hand.
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Doflamingo was sent flying through walls by G2 attacks. Irrc, Fujitora casually blocked Doflamingos kick.
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I see you conveniently neglected to notice the gravity being used to block that Gear Third Punch.
In the page just two pages beforehand, you can clearly see the trail of smoke from Luffy's punches and kicks, which indicate that the two of them are moving.
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You can even see multiple white impact bubbles through the trail, which shows that the impacts are happening in different locations. AKA, Luffy was moving Fujitora.
They're moving around as they clash, It involve dodging, matching and launching of attacks attacks. It has nothing to do with him being pushed backwards. He was never pushed by Luffy's G2 attacks on panel.You're just twisting things to match your argument. And I thought he used gravity to launch ferocious tighter?
Nonetheless, Sabo had been a physical fighter prior to consuming MMnM; He was already a top rated fighter. I think it's illogical to assume Doflamingo(who is predominantly a devils fruit user), has superior physical stats than Sabo.
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Except we can see that nothing more but Luffy throwing a punch linearly and Fujitora blocking them is happening. We can see right up there while Luffy is calling out his blows that he's doing nothing but charging forward and punching/kicking. There's no dodging, Fujitora isn't attacking back, nothing. You pulled all of that out of your ass.
The gravity was used to counteract the force of Gear Third. You can see waves of gravity being released
Nonsense. Doflamingo's fighting style consists primarily of swinging his string with his punches and arm swings. He's just as much a physical fighter as Sabo is.
Unless you have actual feats that put Sabo above Doffy in strength, piss off.
There is limit to how far you'd twist things; Luffy's attacks are all over the place, and Fujitora was simply moving accordingly while blocking Luffy. Moving while fighting =/= Getting pushing by an attack. It's a fact that he was never pushed back by a g2 attack on panel.
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^^^ Bottom middle panel, Gravity waves can be seen near Luffy.
Alright!
Doflamingo doesn't even have to move around to use the most powerful of his attacks. And What makes Doflamingo's PS so great again? Sabo has these feats....
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One could argue that it was gamma knife plus gear 4th that took him to get up so long
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Why exactly could he not shambles someone into gamma knife not saying that he wins but u guys r talking as if this a not an option
I love both characters but I just have a feeling that Sabo will pull it of. Law is very smart and tactical in what he does, and so is Sabo but he has that advantage. Unlike Smoker, Sabo as a Logia User has very strong offense abilities with his fruit and his ability to use hand to hand combat along with Haki is very good as well. It would be an interesting fight but I still see Sabo pulling it of. Just the fact that he became number 2 in the revolutionary Army without a df says something as well.
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Of course both attribute to how long Doffy stayed down but G4 handled Doffy better than Law did. Law is just as good or better than Luffy at DR bar G4 imo.
LMAOO the conditions do matter. Fighting to kill in most cases is easier than fighting to capture alive so saying that it's irrelevant is stupid, if either wanted to they could've killed Law.
That just means that the one advantage Law had his gone. Mr. 3's DF was a direct counter for most of Magellan's arsenal while only two of Law's moves don't work against Sabo, Sabo kept up with Fujtiora and ended a fight with him with no minor injuries while Law GOT DICKED by Doffy (who is weaker than Fujitora).
Kept up with a top tier. A top tier should be faster than Doffy or any of his attacks.
Law kept up for a couple of panels, when the fight got serious he ended up losing rather quickly and easily
And yet Sabo only managed to match this physical powerhouse while using the Mera Mera no Mi to amplify his attack, so that places him below even Law. Both of the participants know about each others DFs so they both had that advantage.
Yes, he does. Any admiral level fighter gets the benefits of the doubt over a nonAdmiral level fighter physically. Or is Jozu physically stronger than Shanks?