Last Coffin IWR is Minato= Proof GG

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A few things:

It cant be Minato(reasons have already been said)
Nor can it be The Sage of The 6 Paths(No DNA)
Kabuto already summoned Garra's dad
Madara wouldn't be afraid of Kushina
Kabuto said that he couldn't find Shisui's body
Madara's a real man he doesn't need a woman nor would he fear his bitch
therefore no child
And Orochimaru Is a big ***** so Madara wouldn't be afraid of him.

It could possibly be Madara's brother or another ninja that we don't know about.
A more likely theory is that Tobi is not the real Madara, and that the person in the coffin is. Kabuto said that he hadn't told anyone about Tobi's secret when he showed him the coffin. So I don't think Tobi can be Madara. But I don't have any ideas on who the real Tobi is.

I saw that someone posted that they thought Madara might be Shisui, but He
can't be because Itachi killed him, that's why Danzo has his eye/arm.
 
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This is really just a prediction but i honestly think that it is one of the two: sheswe (however you spell it) uchiha or madra uchihas original body. Just from the little bit of what we have seen from tobi's face, i think it resembles sheswe's face. so i think madara has pulled the orchimaru body transfer tech on sheswe. hence that was how he was able to control the 4th water kage (if madara didnt have his full body, he atleast had one of the eyes from sheswe, as this mind control tech seems to have been unique to him).

So, if it's not sheswe's in that coffin, it leads me to believe kabuto was able to find some DNA from madara original body.

i think it's a pretty good guess myself ;D
 

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more likely its a body zetsu made for him, obitos body was crushed by rocks why would he need it?

I like this too :D that would kind of answer why zetsu is the only akuktski that seems to truely understand madara's intentions and seems to have his full trust.
 

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A few things:

It cant be Minato(reasons have already been said)
Nor can it be The Sage of The 6 Paths(No DNA)
Kabuto already summoned Garra's dad
Madara wouldn't be afraid of Kushina
Kabuto said that he couldn't find Shisui's body
Madara's a real man he doesn't need a woman nor would he fear his bitch
therefore no child
And Orochimaru Is a big ***** so Madara wouldn't be afraid of him.

It could possibly be Madara's brother or another ninja that we don't know about.
A more likely theory is that Tobi is not the real Madara, and that the person in the coffin is. Kabuto said that he hadn't told anyone about Tobi's secret when he showed him the coffin. So I don't think Tobi can be Madara. But I don't have any ideas on who the real Tobi is.

I saw that someone posted that they thought Madara might be Shisui, but He
can't be because Itachi killed him, that's why Danzo has his eye/arm.

i had forgotten that kabuto had said that he couldnt find sheswe's body....which leads me to believe even more that madara has taken it for himself...via some sort of orochimaru tech
 

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Actually, after re-reading that part of the manga, it seems a bit different. Take a look at this page.



Madara calls Kabuto a "Mad man". Typically, if I feared someone who could defeat me, I would say impossible. Let's play the pretending game. If that person had power to defeat me but that's it, I would say "Impossible, how did you do this?". If that person though were someone who had such uncontrolled power that they can destroy the entire surrounding, including the ET user due to the nature of the power, I would say "You madman! Your going to kill us all!"

This gets me thinking that it's a user with uncontrolled power, explosive to say and with Kabuto's orders, it can take out an entire area when released.

But the thing is, Madara can teleport and use that ghost like phase and just escape, no biggie. So why was he slightly startled and why did he call Kabuto a Madman. The solution was simple. If this user does have some sort of explosive power to take out an entire area, then Madara can just leave and Kabuto committed suicide. Nothing lost, right? Wrong, something will be lost, Madara's army. Kabuto was aware of Madara's army as we later saw when he wanted to see the Zetsus. He was even aware that it was Zetsu as the army. Kabuto's main threat to Madara would have been the absolute destruction of the army that was underground. Without that army, there will be no war.

But wait, the army is out now, why can't Madara take out Kabuto now? Again, simple. Madara knows Kabuto wants Sasuke, but Madara also wants more power to win the war. This gets me thinking, if the Alliance numbers are at what, 60k? and the Zetsu are at 100? The shouldn't the Alliance be completely swamped right now? Including the ET force, the alliance shouldn't be so free to move around like they are. Which goes for saying, not all of the Zetsu army is there. Maybe half, maybe 3/4. Kabuto said he can make Zetsu stronger, far stronger, and Madara allowed it. Madara is also allowing Kabuto to use Yamato's DNA to increase the strength.

So what does that mean? Madara is waiting for Kabuto to finish increasing the strength of the second military force that remains below their feet. With that force there, Kabuto can still use that secret Ninja in the coffin to wipe out the force below them, rendering Madara's current force useless. So I'm guessing that as long as Kabuto has the main force at a distance where he can threaten them, then he can use that to threaten Madara who will not attack to keep his Military at full power.

But Madara can just kill Kabuto before he uses that Ninja. Well, Kabuto does specialize with snakes just like Orochimaru. Knowing from what we've seen so far and knowing snakes in real life, they are predators who have amazing senses. We've also seen Kabuto detecting locations of ninjas from great distances with superb ease. Knowing that, he's probably keep Madara on watch from a distance, so once Madaras presence in that area disappears, Kabuto knows to be ready for a possible attack incase Madara tries to sneak by teleporting next to him. Kabuto only needs that second to summon the hidden ninja and after that, it will not matter if Kabuto dies, for ET will still remain active and the hidden ninja can still destroy the army. That being, Madara has no choice but to sit back and allow Kabuto to roam free.
 
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I also have another theory about how the coffin guy is madara's brother.
So we all know that madara killed his brother and took his eyes, but do we know what he did with him afterwards? Well I think that he took his body int the realm where he took
Danzo's men. And that kabuto found a way to get there, and that's whay Madara asked how he did that. Madara's brother was a way better ninja than Madara, so he would be fearful of him.
 

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I also have another theory about how the coffin guy is madara's brother.
So we all know that madara killed his brother and took his eyes, but do we know what he did with him afterwards? Well I think that he took his body int the realm where he took
Danzo's men. And that kabuto found a way to get there, and that's whay Madara asked how he did that. Madara's brother was a way better ninja than Madara, so he would be fearful of him.

ok if madaras brother was a much better ninja then him why was madara the leader of the uchiha? he took his eyes since they both had the ms and he wanted the ems and the fact that he was blind, ok so the only people that madara could possibly fear is himself and izuna (his brother) everyone else that he might fear cnnot be summoned so my best guess that the coffin might have is himself i believe that madara is combined with zetsu as he was easily regaining limbs and such
 

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NO WAY! It is already stated that none of the hokages can be summoned
 

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first of all.. manga didn't show the third coffin... only anime did... ;P

and since manga is canon.. and not anime...
Kishi has said it himself that.. none of the previous kages can be summon'd now... in any case... ;P
 

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Agreed. it cant be any of them, because they are seald. it can only be someone that madara is close to because of his reaction. has to be his brother or someone else that we dont know.
 

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he couldnt have been summoned kabuto explained that anyone not still of this world cant be summon by reanimation thats why i couldnt summon any of the hokages and jariya surprisingly
link providing evidence:
also the coffin kabuto summoned that made madara (supposedly) afraid may be someone not mentioned in to story yet but of a foreshadowing of some one that will be tied in with everyone else story like say... the original founder of the uchiha clan or possibly like most of you have been saying the real madara uchiha which the story has just barely told us any thing about his real intentions in his life or his history only that he is war driven.
 
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Ok, hqlf by the death demon seal, and the other by the 8 trigrams seal or whatever, it can't be him, u
He couldn't be summoned, and tobi would know kabuto would be living
 

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well when obito died, we only saw when only half his body was crushed. When he 'died', he was in the land of (where ever stone is), coincidentally the same land where Zetsu came from. just food for thought haha
 

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also, kabuto saying he cant get the previous hokage came after when he showed him the coffin. so he wouldve noticed that. it cant be minato. theres way too much evidence against it. he isnt the only fourth of anything that has ever existed
totally agree
 

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Well i understand that he is wrong but you dont have to flame him.
 

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ok so im srry but there is a chance that kabuto was lying to Madara/Tobi about not being able to ressurect the 4th
 

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well when obito died, we only saw when only half his body was crushed. When he 'died', he was in the land of (where ever stone is), coincidentally the same land where Zetsu came from. just food for thought haha

obito=gone as far as im concered, he served his purpose of turning kakashi into the good guy with feelings for his teammates and possibly the source of his pain that let him get the MS.

ok so im srry but there is a chance that kabuto was lying to Madara/Tobi about not being able to ressurect the 4th

how? Kabuto would need to undo the reaper death seal on the 4th, and if he can do that then he might as well summon all 4 of the first hokages and GG madara/alliance.
 
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