[Discussion] kyuubi's other half of chakra

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The thing that I can't get is that naruto is in KCM but Kyuubi is still gathering chakra... I remember in one chapter when naruto gave the SA KC so one of the SA thought it's KC but sensed again and it was narutos.. So I'm like confused there
 

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The thing that I can't get is that naruto is in KCM but Kyuubi is still gathering chakra... I remember in one chapter when naruto gave the SA KC so one of the SA thought it's KC but sensed again and it was narutos.. So I'm like confused there

it was not only naruto chakra...kurama stated it remolded it's chakra for that purpose which means it mixed naruto and it's chakra so that it wouldn't be heavy for SA to bear. .

Kurama has the capability to gather . . besides wat naruto using is kyuubi's chakra he took and stored in some other place. . once he enters BM kurama will give the chakra so far gathered
 

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Oh I see.. but naruto is getting stronger and stronger everytime he goes into BM
 

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Gonna save you guys alot of time and say a few FACTS:

Minato has the Yin side of the 9 Tails sealed inside of him, we know this because when sealing Kurama he clearly states that he only has enough chakra left to seal half of it inside Naruto, the rest he sealed inside himself with the RDS. The half that was sealed inside of him was the Yin Part of Kurama's Chakra, this is also shown by the fact that whenever Naruto interacts with wood like zetsu or tree's while in KCM, they tend to grow and get stronger, this is caused by them feeding off of his abundance of Yang chakra.

The 9 Tails cannot simply regenerate this chakra that has been sealed for the same reason Orochimaru could not simply regenerate the chakra from his arms that were sealed.

Minato still has the Yin Side of Kurama's chakra based on the fact that he is even able to go into KCM.


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Its like this, Kurama was once a 10 gallon box, now he is a 5 gallon box, now if you fill that up with Water, and then drink it all, you can still put more water inside of it, but he can never exceed 5 gallons until the rest of his chakra is unsealed.
 

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minato doesn't have kurama's yin chakra
he's using the seal that naruto gets when he sepearates kurama's mind from his yang chakra and mixes with his own
it's just that minato only has as much yang chakra as kyuubi chakra mode naruto
 

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Kurama has both chakras if you go back to the previous page from the one posted Here look at Kurama expression before Minato use the cloak, Kurama is now making Chakra for Naruto and for Minato to use. Its just that Minato hasten directly transfer the chakra to Naruto plus Kurama is still building up Chakra.
 

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i agree with him. . because yin half of kyuubi is dark chakra which means the hatred and other stuff . .

we've seen it took 570+ chapters for naruto to be in friendly term with kurama which means kurama developed his other half..

i believe kurama never lost his yin half . .if yang was the only part he had. .he would hav acted friendly all the time with naruto. .

and as for the BM ..it's not because he has only yang. .it's because kurama is having hard time dealing with tetragram seal. .and also it's chakra is almost same as juubi's chakra. .thats y obito got 9 matagam's and uzumaki crest in his back which naruto also got once he got hold of kyuubi's chakra. .

I agree the gift is going to be Kuramas YIN chakra that was sealed away. But naruto himself has both yin and yang chakra like any other person, but the chakra he gets from kurama is YANG chakra hint: how else are they going to power naruto up to be the savior of world and the new Sage
 

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Aaahhh, I was just referring to your he has regenerated his chakra over time. I was just saying his maximum chakra pool is halved. He's not a container, right. He's chakra mass that's been halved. Probably the reason why Naruto has a Chakra Kurama in Bijuu Mode is the seal used to contain Kurama in Naruto. Either that or Kishi just wanted to make a homage to Dragonball.

Though, I don't recall anywhere in the manga that said Kyuubi lost his Yin chakra or anything. Most of that speculation were from Narutobase threads, which is why I refuse to say he lost his Yin. I just say he lost half his chakra because of the sealing. And if what you're saying is true about TBB's needing to manipulate black/white (yin/yang) chakra. Then it's safe to assume that Kurama's overall chakra pool just got halved. :1

When bee trained naruto to use the tailed beast bomb, he said to make it you need to put black(yin) and white(yang) chakra together in a certain ratio(8:1 i think) to create it. So yea the kyuubi must have both yin and yang, since he obviously use tbb's. Oh and minato never himself said he sealed the yin half in himself and the yang in naruto. In the flashback chapters minato just says he will seal half of the kyuubis chakra in himself and the other half in naruto. Jiraiya is the one who said minato sealed sealed the yin chakra into himself and the yang into naruto. He said this right before he fought pain, when he released the toad with the key for narutos seal.How jiraiya knows this since minato died right after sealing the kyuubi i don't know, that's why im inclined to believe minato himself instead.


So basically narutos kyuubi still only has half of its total chakra, and minatos gift should be the other half of kuramas chakra, making kurama be at full power again.
 
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When bee trained naruto to use the tailed beast bomb, he said to make it you need to put black(yin) and white(yang) chakra together in a certain ratio(8:1 i think) to create it. So yea the kyuubi must have both yin and yang, since he obviously use tbb's. Oh and minato never himself said he sealed the yin half in himself and the yang in naruto. In the flashback chapters minato just says he will seal half of the kyuubis chakra in himself and the other half in naruto. Jiraiya is the one who said minato sealed sealed the yin chakra into himself and the yang into naruto. He said this right before he fought pain, when he released the toad with the key for narutos seal.How jiraiya knows this since minato died right after sealing the kyuubi i don't know, that's why im inclined to believe minato himself instead.


So basically narutos kyuubi still only has half of its total chakra, and minatos gift should be the other half of kuramas chakra, making kurama be at full power again.

ok half of both yin/yang i can live with that..... but i still believe jiraiya and how narutos chakra reacts to zetsu like its str8 yang chakra
 

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ok half of both yin/yang i can live with that..... but i still believe jiraiya and how narutos chakra reacts to zetsu like its str8 yang chakra

Yea narutos cloak reacting with zetsus/mokuton is most likely because of yang chakra...maybe it's just because he has a ton of yang? I don't know. Obviously kishi writes both minato and jiraiya...but if you think about it, the flashback with minato happened after jiraiya said the thing about minato sealing the yin chakra in himself and yang in naruto...so maybe kishi changed his mind?
 

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real talk - when a father says he has a present for his son, and we as readers - pre-assumed that its the other part of the kyuubi -- the least you could do is give the man a chance to deliver ?
 
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