Kyuubi Naruto's and Killer Bee's Bijuu Control.

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THIS IS A THEORY!!!


Jinchuuriki Transformations.


We've seen Killer Bee going into Jinchuurki Transformation with great ease, and many of us wish Naruto had that control over the Bijuu Chakra.
But I've came to the conclusion that Naruto may never have control over the Kyuubi's Chakra.

Why do I think so? There are two big factors:

- Different Transformations
- Different Chakra.


Different Transformations:


Both and , have the ability to create a chakra cloack by tapping into their Bijuu's chakra.
However, their tailed transformations above three are different. Killer Bee's Version 2, as shown during his battle with Hoshigake Kisame,

not only , but it also heals it, and it's constantly destroying and creating new cells, , as explained by Jiraiya.

This is possibly the most important factor on Naruto's lack of control on the Kyuubi's chakra. Due to the lose of blood he looses conciousnes and the Kyuubi takes over his body. Killer Bee's contol over the Hachibi's chakra could be simple as staying concious during the tailed transformation.

But when Killer Bee goes to a his skin is b as when Naruto goes to a four Tailed transformation.

Since we don't know what happens to the Jinchuuriki when he goes full tailed, we can asume that the roles change and the Jinchuuriki and tailed beast change places, (the Tailed Beast on the outside, and the Jinchuuriki on the inside). We don't know if Killer Bee gets healed during the tailed transformation, or not. I suppose his body gets healed by the Hachibi's chakra during the full tailed transfotmation, and that the skin does not burn again, unlike in Naruto's Version 2.

The full tailed transformation is the combination of:

+ + +

And his skin didn't burn in Version 1 or 2. It burned when he went Full -Tailed, due to the change in the Bijuu's chakra consistense.

(Version 1 chakra cloack has a totally different consistense than chakra cloack version 2, and Version 1 and 2 have totally different consistence than the "Full-Tailed Version".

Version 1 is just a chakra cloack, version 2 is he chakra cloack changed into human form, and Full Tailed Version it's completly different, having a huge sized esqueleton to support itself, among other things.)


He is later seen uninjured after the scaped capture by hiding in one if the Eight Tails cephalopod arms. That would mean he was healed by the Hachibi's chakra
This not only proves that his skin only burns once and only when he goes full tailed, but that the Hachibi's chakra can heal like the Kyuubi's chakra does to Naruto, although it's impossible to know if it heals at the same speed or not, and what healing limit it has.


All this explains that unlike Naruto, Killer Bee does not constantly damages his body when he goes Version 2 and Full tailed Version. So he has no important blood loose, and can stay awake and in control.

About Killer Bee's control over different Tailed Versions:

We've not only seen Killer Bee going to Three-Tailed Version One or Seven Tailed Version Two, but we've also seen him going Seven-Tailed Version One.

This is not a hole in my theory, but a demonstration that if Naruto wasn't so afected by his Version 2 he could have that kind of contol over the Kyuubi's chakra by training, like Yugito Nii, the Two-Tailed Monster Cat Jinchuuriki , who could go Full-Tailed at will, after a training she went under as a child.




There is a fact that must be taken into consideration and it's that the Hachibi's cloack does not atack indepently of Killer Bee, but the Kyuubi's chakra clocka does. This is proven in Sasuke's fight with One-Tailed Naruto, where
But then in Sasuke's fight with Killer Bee he stated that

(In the fight with Killer Bee, Sasuke already had the Mangekyou Sharingan, but when he said this, so he was in the same situation as in the fight at the Valley of the End, a Three Tomoe Sharingan).
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Different Chakra

Although both, Hachibi's and Kyuubi's chakra comes from the , both are different tailed beast and the chakra itself is different.

As stated , the Ten-Tails possesed the "Strongest Chakra Ever", so even separated into nine tailed beasts, the chakra is still incredibly powerfull.

Ovbiously, at more tails more chakra, and at more chakra more power. this states that the Kyuubi's chakra is more powerfull than the eight tails chakra and also more dangerous for the user.

This is proved several times in the manga:

- Naruto's Version 2 could not be penetrated by the Kusanagi sword

- During Naruto vs Sasuke's battle at the Valley Of The End, (when after a while of being on a One-Tailed Transformation,

- When Naruto went into his Four-Tailed Transformation and was left very damaged.


Killer bee has not shown any of these problems


Due to this difference in the Hachibi's and Kyuubi's chakra, Naruto won't be able to control the Chakra like Killer Bee.
 

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The Problems seem to be the Minds of the Tail beast, Bee has a cool character in his beast that compliment his character. Naruto and the Nine tails Mind are totally opposite to each other. Naruto is kind, forgiving and generous. The Fox is selfish, Hateful and full of rage. This makes it harder for the kind of union that Bee has with His beast.
 

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THIS IS A THEORY!!!


Jinchuuriki Transformations.


We've seen Killer Bee going into Jinchuurki Transformation with great ease, and many of us wish Naruto had that control over the Bijuu Chakra.
But I've came to the conclusion that Naruto may never have control over the Kyuubi's Chakra.

Why do I think so? There are two big factors:

- Different Transformations
- Different Chakra.


Different Transformations:


Both and , have the ability to create a chakra cloack by tapping into their Bijuu's chakra.
However, their tailed transformations above three are different. Killer Bee's Version 2, as shown during his battle with Hoshigake Kisame,

not only , but it also heals it, and it's constantly destroying and creating new cells, , as explained by Jiraiya.

This is possibly the most important factor on Naruto's lack of control on the Kyuubi's chakra. Due to the lose of blood he looses conciousnes and the Kyuubi takes over his body. Killer Bee's contol over the Hachibi's chakra could be simple as staying concious during the tailed transformation.

But when Killer Bee goes to a his skin is b as when Naruto goes to a four Tailed transformation.

Since we don't know what happens to the Jinchuuriki when he goes full tailed, we can asume that the roles change and the Jinchuuriki and tailed beast change places, (the Tailed Beast on the outside, and the Jinchuuriki on the inside). We don't know if Killer Bee gets healed during the tailed transformation, or not. I suppose his body gets healed by the Hachibi's chakra during the full tailed transfotmation, and that the skin does not burn again, unlike in Naruto's Version 2.

The full tailed transformation is the combination of:

+ + +

And his skin didn't burn in Version 1 or 2. It burned when he went Full -Tailed, due to the change in the Bijuu's chakra consistense.

(Version 1 chakra cloack has a totally different consistense than chakra cloack version 2, and Version 1 and 2 have totally different consistence than the "Full-Tailed Version".

Version 1 is just a chakra cloack, version 2 is he chakra cloack changed into human form, and Full Tailed Version it's completly different, having a huge sized esqueleton to support itself, among other things.)


He is later seen uninjured after the scaped capture by hiding in one if the Eight Tails cephalopod arms. That would mean he was healed by the Hachibi's chakra
This not only proves that his skin only burns once and only when he goes full tailed, but that the Hachibi's chakra can heal like the Kyuubi's chakra does to Naruto, although it's impossible to know if it heals at the same speed or not, and what healing limit it has.


All this explains that unlike Naruto, Killer Bee does not constantly damages his body when he goes Version 2 and Full tailed Version. So he has no important blood loose, and can stay awake and in control.

About Killer Bee's control over different Tailed Versions:

We've not only seen Killer Bee going to Three-Tailed Version One or Seven Tailed Version Two, but we've also seen him going Seven-Tailed Version One.

This is not a hole in my theory, but a demonstration that if Naruto wasn't so afected by his Version 2 he could have that kind of contol over the Kyuubi's chakra by training, like Yugito Nii, the Two-Tailed Monster Cat Jinchuuriki , who could go Full-Tailed at will, after a training she went under as a child.




There is a fact that must be taken into consideration and it's that the Hachibi's cloack does not atack indepently of Killer Bee, but the Kyuubi's chakra clocka does. This is proven in Sasuke's fight with One-Tailed Naruto, where
But then in Sasuke's fight with Killer Bee he stated that

(In the fight with Killer Bee, Sasuke already had the Mangekyou Sharingan, but when he said this, so he was in the same situation as in the fight at the Valley of the End, a Three Tomoe Sharingan).
______________________________________________

Different Chakra

Although both, Hachibi's and Kyuubi's chakra comes from the , both are different tailed beast and the chakra itself is different.

As stated , the Ten-Tails possesed the "Strongest Chakra Ever", so even separated into nine tailed beasts, the chakra is still incredibly powerfull.

Ovbiously, at more tails more chakra, and at more chakra more power. this states that the Kyuubi's chakra is more powerfull than the eight tails chakra and also more dangerous for the user.

This is proved several times in the manga:

- Naruto's Version 2 could not be penetrated by the Kusanagi sword

- During Naruto vs Sasuke's battle at the Valley Of The End, (when after a while of being on a One-Tailed Transformation,

- When Naruto went into his Four-Tailed Transformation and was left very damaged.


Killer bee has not shown any of these problems


Due to this difference in the Hachibi's and Kyuubi's chakra, Naruto won't be able to control the Chakra like Killer Bee.
Ummyou forgot to take in to consideration something that was brought up in the last chapter.

The reason these effects happen to Naruto is because of the Kyuubi's mind.

The reason the chakra acted independently was because of the fact that the Kyuubi controls the chakra that is otherwise incasing Naruto.

The reason Naruto skin burns off is because him and the Kyuubi are in a constant battle over control. By adversley effecting Naruto the Kyuubi causes Naruto to go unconsious and allowing the Kyuubi time to weaken the seal and cause death and destruction.
 

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You bring up some interesting points and i also agree with Honord Sage that their Bijuu's personalities may be one of the keys to exerting control over the Bijuu's themselves. Possibly, if one were to get in sync with their beasts personality, it would form a sort of symbiotic relationship such as that shown with Bee and Hachibi. :D
 

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Ummyou forgot to take in to consideration something that was brought up in the last chapter.

The reason these effects happen to Naruto is because of the Kyuubi's mind.

The reason the chakra acted independently was because of the fact that the Kyuubi controls the chakra that is otherwise incasing Naruto.

The reason Naruto skin burns off is because him and the Kyuubi are in a constant battle over control. By adversley effecting Naruto the Kyuubi causes Naruto to go unconsious and allowing the Kyuubi time to weaken the seal and cause death and destruction.

lol thank you!, some people need to re-read some of the manga before they make stupid theories! when naruto controls the kyuubi he will have full control just like killer bee.
close the thread pl0x xd
 

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Naruto can never have a symbiotic relationship with it Beast because it pure evil. It be A Doctor Jeckel Mr Hide syndrome. Naruto must lock out the Mind of The Fox and Retain total cam in controlling the chakra, in Greco-Roman Society their existed A Philosophy call Stoicism The believe in controlling ones emotions to change what you can and accept what you cannot. It became the idea for Star Trek Vulcan. Naruto needs to block all negative emotions so the Fox can never take control.
 

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We all have no idea what happens if Naruto learns to filter out the kyuubi and it effect of what happens to the kyuubi afterward. Since the evil will of the kyuubi is attached to the chakra the more he pulls out turns Naruto into more of the kyuubi, so since the evilness of the chakra is hot it burns everything even Naruto's skin.

When Naruto uses version 2 he switches places with the kyuubi as seen when Naruto was in his inner world and the kyuubi was breaking out of pain's moon(forgot the name). It could be the switching places with the buji that could also cause the burning of the skin too. I said this before but the Hachibi coming from the 10tails (which should have been as evil as the devil its self) could have been almost as evil as the kyuubi.

Yugito being in the same village should have trained with Bee at some point as a speculation. She has what seems to have a great control over her buji. Even though she has the second strongest and the will shouldn't be as strong.
 

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Ummyou forgot to take in to consideration something that was brought up in the last chapter.

The reason these effects happen to Naruto is because of the Kyuubi's mind.

The reason the chakra acted independently was because of the fact that the Kyuubi controls the chakra that is otherwise incasing Naruto.

The reason Naruto skin burns off is because him and the Kyuubi are in a constant battle over control. By adversley effecting Naruto the Kyuubi causes Naruto to go unconsious and allowing the Kyuubi time to weaken the seal and cause death and destruction.
yeah agree and some additional maybe The reasons why Naruto fails to keep his consciousness unlike Killer Bee are:
KillerBee has probably been a Jinchuuriki far longer than Naruto, so he has had at least double the time to train and perfect his symbiosis with the Bijuu
The differing personalities of the Bijuu play a large role in this, as shown the Kyuubi is far more dangerous and evil than the Hachibi, as shown many times the Kyuubi's chakra was described as poisonous, harmful, burning, oppressive and heavy not only to Naruto but to those around him as he transformed. The various negative effects that the chakra carries is probably what makes Naruto lose consciousness and control over himself as also the trigger needed for him to use this power in the first place is anger, rather than activating it in the first place. As he progresses through the forms, he has to become angrier, which causes the seal to lose its hold over the chakra which then subsequently takes hold of Naruto's body causing him to be powerless.
 

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read chapter 490 and ur theory is out of the picture, hes most likey going to train with the killer-bee to control the kyuubi why else would they give him the key to the demons seal if he couldnt do it, i mean its naruto he can do anything he puts his mind too.
 
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