[VS] Kuzan vs Jack

[KingHashirama]

Or if one of the boats he sank was the one Doffy was on and a non DF user swam and picked him up. That still shows Jacks strength destroying a boat and distracting admirals long enough for one of his men to sneak Doffy away. There's countless ways it could work out if we sat down and thought them all out.

Destroying a mere ship really isn't that big of a feat , considering Zoro has casually sliced up a ship underwater. But Fujitora wouldn't make sure himself that Doflamingo was alive or not? I'm sure Sengoku by himself can distract Jack.

There are countless ways it could work, but most of them involve making the admirals look weak and helpless, and thats already the biggest flaw in the manga when it comes to Oda's portrayal of this "Balance" between marines and pirates.

 

[Osmon]

Kaido and Shanks definitely didn't have a real fight

Probably not but it probably was some kind of clash like WB with Shanks or shit like that on a smaller level.

That's not what I said at all, I said Kaidou would live up to his hype. You said he wouldn't, I pointed out he has the same hype as WB-a Yonkou title and the title world's strongest (fill in the blank) and WB lived up to his hype. I said he would lose fights but not likely 1 on 1 just like WB who didn't lose to any 1 person in the manga, you then mention his defeats and captures which are irrelevant because we don't know the situation behind them and give a list of people who could hypothetically beat him, it adds nothing to the discussion. So you can syh all you want but that's on you.

I mean, you said that Kaido will live to its hype and I said that his hype is too much for Kaido to prove it with facts so . . . z.z Aight tho

 

[MickNerks]

Kuzan would win with Mid Diff (possibly high)

Im starting to believe that Jack is stronger than Marco the Pheonix. And I'm certain at this point Jack is fairly stronger than Doffy. Kaido most likely would have sent Jack to eliminate Doffy after lost the SMILE Factory instead of going himself.

 

[Bogard]

Destroying a mere ship really isn't that big of a feat

What about shaking an entire country to the core?

 

[KingHashirama]

What about shaking an entire country to the core?

Don't see how this is related to the other convo.

 

[chopstickchakra]

What about shaking an entire country to the core?

Well it's a mobile country so all he had to do was hit one of it's legs. Now if he shook an actual island the size of Zou to it's core that would be something different but the island shakes because it reacts to the damage on it's leg. They're not equivalent feats.

 

[MasqueradeNX]

Kuzan mid diff.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Well it's a mobile country so all he had to do was hit one of it's legs. Now if he shook an actual island the size of Zou to it's core that would be something different but the island shakes because it reacts to the damage on it's leg. They're not equivalent feats.

Thank u every time someone like jack or sabo breathes because of the hype surrounding them ... People increase this hype ten fold -/-