Kurotsuchi > Sakura?

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And it's a moot example chojuro didn't dodge an actual charge. When Kinshiki actually charged him head on he didn't do shit (1) Kinshiki's sword overpowered his own (2) Kinshiki's swipped him or cut him. I'm sorry but it's moot compared to Sakura Blitzing shin or out maneuvering his multi Sharnigan in a direct assault or even the reflexes she demonstrated when she dodged Kaguya's chakra hand when it was only meters away. Sakura is faster fam...

Lmao it's pretty sad how you kids can come on here and say that something that happened on panel didn't actually happen based on what? Your love for a piece of paper.



Kinshiki charges.



Chojuro dodges. Show me Sakura dodging something or someone as fast as Kinshiki in close range or you lose this point. That simple.



Nope. Manga scan below, meters? Zzz Sakura did however put meters in between her and the chakra hand the first time she dodged it.
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The chakra arm was dead ass above her, it's shadow even casted upon her yet she managed to evade its initial attempt to grab her and speedfully evaded it (put meters in between herself and it) for as long as she could meanwhile....

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:lol A feat of Sakura dodging a chakra arm from 100 meters away only to need help once it actually gets within close range of her isn't a speed feat superior to dodging Kinshiki from mid range no matter how many pitiful excuses are made.

chojuro gets attacked from above did (like Sakura was by the chakra arm) but non-skilfully loses his postion/balance (unlike Sakura) and his speed his instantly countered or rendered moot (unlike Sakura who actually put up a speedful resistance for how ever long).



Where did he lose his balance? Why are you making things up like I won't just post the scan to prove you wrong? He lost his balance when they started fighting in swordplay. Not when Kinshiki dashed at him. Not like this example matters since Sakura's target was coming at her from dozens of meters away while Chojuro's target was in mid range from his position. That and Sakura couldn't evade her target once it got within that range. Kakashi needed to save her ass. :lol



You can't surprise a MS user who has actually have a dozen implanted and activated in the direction your coming from but even if you don't wanna consider it a blitz, has chojuro ever offensively moved that fast at all in the manga? Nope.

That's exactly what was shown. She surprised him. Having eyes all across your body is irrelevant when you only have 2 optic nerves, which is how sight is processed. Shin, Danzo and anyone else with eyes anywhere besides their sockets can't see out of said eyes.

Off panel sneak attacks don't and won't ever count as real speed feats. The bold is a dumb question to ask since you yourself have no idea how fast Sakura was moving because she traveled off panel, but of course you are clinging to every weak feat you can because Sakura's speed feats as a whole barely exist.




Come again? His sword doesn't have shockwaves nor does Hiramekarei have any feats of omitting an explosion the way the impact behind one of Sakura's punches does. TF? Hiramekarei omits chakra in a blade form similar to the chakra scalpel and cuts directly through it's target. The only thing you could be referencing is the feat below and if you wanna deem that as a bigger explosion or shockwave then be guest but you'll look incompetent.

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Compared to: An expansion in which chakra is transmitted outward as a shock wave (Sakura's punch).

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Did you read/watch the fight against Momo and Kinshiki? Cause this is the second time you've boldly stated that something that is actually canon fact isn't true. Despite me having manga panels of said events and feats.



Shockwave, chakra wave. Call it what you want, semantics don't interest me. It is a blast that travels from the origin of the sword to the target. That blast is more penetrative than Sakura's own displayed shockwave (would've cut Kinshiki in half and easily tore through the Shinju's root) thus it tears through hers.

Where did I say that his blade omits an explosion? Nowhere. :lol Read man. Read.


Go back and read your previous post, instead of calling names.

Go back and read my previous post and I won't have to point out the nonsense you are spewing. I said having more feats is irrelevant, not that feats are irrelevant in general. Learn how to read please.

Based on nothing? Sakura doesn't have feats or isn't cleaver enough to read through offensive attack patterns? I swear she saw through Sasori's puppetry on her own.

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Good job proving she can read Sasori's attack patterns. Now prove that she can do the same to someone who is faster with a completely different fighting style. I'll wait.
Based on nothing? Sakura hasn't healed herself without using Byakugou or with mystical palm without using hand seals?

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:lol It doesn't take a genius to realize that this isn't the part of that post I was referring to. Poor attempt at deflecting, but I can't blame you since your argument almost has no content whatsoever.



That's all you got? Lol He has to get past Katsuyu to get to Sakura and he has no way of doing that. She is impervious to physical attacks and I know for certain that he has no way to combat her slime besides using up his stamina to evade it lol, nevermind the fact she can divide then attack from various positions; while Sakura can just ambush dude while he's preoccupied with Katsuyu(s) lol

Why would he have to get past Katsuyu? Katsuyu isn't a shield that surrounds Sakura. She's a giant summon that has no offensive capability besides her acid that has the grand speed feat of being too slow to hit Manda in close range. Yes, she can divide them, but then the acid's size is divided as well and it already has no good speed feat to let you argue Chojuro gets hit. So Chojuro simply goes around Katsuyu and attacks Sakura. Not a hard concept to grasp.

He did blitz Chojuro and injured him too.

Your the undercover fanboy. :sakura:

Except he attacked, was dodged. Attacked again, was blocked, and then he actually cut him. At least that's how it happened in Ikemoto's Manga. Can't say the same for the twisted version you have in your little fantasies.

I've already owned you and I don't waste my time on sore losers, ever

Sakura blitzes, lay off the estrogen.

If denying Manga fact and making up the usual fapboy BS arguments is owning then yeah, you definitely owned me son. :lol Pipe down kiddo.

Shikamaru has never witnessed combat from sakuea in the war arc, he witnessed her recover the entire alliance but that's about it.

Yet there was a 15 yr gap where anything could've happened. You can't make the argument that he knows nothing of her combat abilities unless you're gonna show me what happened during that 15 yr gap where Shikamaru supposedly knows nothing of his comrade's abilities, or his former Hokage's since Sakura is basically a clone of Tsunade, but slightly worse.



Sakura's casual strikes surpass that of Kurotsuchi's, and even if she does get overpowered she can still brush it off and return if Kurotsuchi was to get overpowered it would mean she's gone.

No, they don't. Kurotsuchi's casual strikes blasted Kinshiki over 20 meters away and through a giant Shinju Root. Sakura's casual strikes didn't even kill Shin. This doesn't include Lava Release, which is a GG when it hits.

It doesn't require speed feats if let's say 20 miniature Katsuyu which will cover a large surface area are spewing acid in all directions, obviously it's going to keep Kurotsuchi on her toes. Not to mention Orochimaru implied that her acid could even kill him so it's not something that she can simply undermine. Sakura's chakra control allows her to increase her speed and this was shown in PT I with her skills now she could basically land some sort of strike on her, intercepting or blocking results in a major loss for Kuro.

Them being small means that the amount of acid they spray drops proportionally. Will it take some effort to dodge? Yes. Is it a distraction that lets Sakura hit and kill someone fast enough to land a hit on, albeit surprised, Kinshiki? Nope. Not in this lifetime. Bold simply means that her acid can kill him if it hits, which was obvious even without that statement.

Not to mention Kurotsuchi actually has the ability to easily take down Katsuyu with her Lava Release.

Sakura's "chakra control speed feat" from Part 1 was literally nothing but Shunshin. We've seen Sakura's speed feats and they are not good enough for you to make this claim.




Kaguya had byakugan, 360 division and Naruto and Sasuke barely covered half of that not to mention she is a goddess so being distracted really wasn't an excuse in her case not to mention she could have interfered Sakura too.

Being able to see all around you doesn't matter if 100% of your focus is on something else. Her focus was on Naruto and Sasuke, the only two people in the world who can defeat her. Not Sakura, some fodder (compared to her before anyone throws a fit) Kunoichi. Her being distracted is the only excuse unless you want to start arguing that Sakura was too fast for her.

Kurotsuchi may be aware but will she have the ability to constantly dodge Katsuyu's fatal acid and Sakura's assaults. Kurotsuchi will have to avoid any form of damage from the both of them for her to completely win this battle and that's frankly impossible.

This is more of the same as the above except for the last statement, which is false. There's literally no reason Kurotsuchi can't evade a fatal strike. She has the tools and the physical ability to do so and has the means to finish her off cleanly despite Byakugo.


lol I know that it's just Sakura has shown more susceptible feats than Kuro and I just believe she's stronger.

The feats thing is arguable, the rest is not.
 

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The answer depends on how the author will continue to portray Kurotsuchi. So far, he's portrayed her as stronger.
 

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12 pages lmao.

Manga clearly states that Kurotsuchi/Gokage is superior to any leaf ninja at that moment. Fappers will fap :lol
 

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I'll assume the exorbitant replies by the above member are a concession to the now blatant fact that statements from characters don't necessarily hold true.
 

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''Kurotsuchi's casual strikes are stronger than Sakura's.''

Mulled over that for like ten minutes and still couldn't decipher the amount of bs in that one sentence.
 

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Kurotsuchi handles Sakura comfortably.

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She couldn't even properly fight Shin fresh off a surgery.
 
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Nobody's going to report you.

Eventually, this thread will be moderated so it'll be all on you.

I'm just going to ignore the vermin coming way.

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Ignore engaging in sexual roleplay with a minor.
 

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I still stand with what I say, Kurotsuchi hasn't shown us enough feats to assume she'll defeat Sakura.
 

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Nope.


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Lee > Neji.

Your fapping isn't going to change that.

Lee dreaming of defeating Neji and Naruto simultaneously doesn't mean he thinks he's inferior. I know that's all you have against Lee - who destroys all of Neji's speed feats in a single instance.

Plus the focus of the dream is Sakura, not Naruto or Neji.

So this propagation of this dream as somewhat a subliminal message from Kishimoto that Lee is inferior anyhow should stop, because it's wrong,
 

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War Arc Lee > Neji. I'm not going to bother myself and argue why that is the case.

Lee has been stronger than Neji in fact since the Manga started.

He's always been stronger.

These panels in order says HI and goodbye.
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^That's not a charge, it's called an air assault, in order for it to be a charge hebwpuld have had to beeb attacked or rushed straight foward.

Kinshiki charges.


Yes this is a charge but in what pannel did he dodge anything?
The scan clearly shows Chojuro being over powered and being pushed back and in the next scan he get sliced.



What did he dodge in the scans below or when Kinshiki actually charged him?






Chojuro dodges. Show me Sakura dodging something or someone as fast as Kinshiki in close range or you lose this point. That simple.

Chojuro dodged a an air assault and didn't dodge a charge nor did he dodge but it's not an impressive feat being that he barley did it. Mean while Sakura actually dodged something that Naruto said was "really fast" but post a scan of him moving this fast offensively..

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lol A feat of Sakura dodging a chakra arm from 100 meters away

Troll, pull out a ruler.

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Why say such stupid things? Common sense will tell you the distance in between the chakra arm and Sakura when she dodged it. Come on..

only to need help once it actually gets within close range of her isn't a speed feat superior to dodging Kinshiki from mid range

Sakura instanously dodged Kaguya's chakra arm close range and she put distance in between herself & the arm too.

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Superior speed feat!

Where did he lose his balance? Why are you making things up like I won't just post the scan to prove you wrong?

You can't prove me wrong becuase I have the facts.

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He lost his balance when they started fighting in swordplay. Not when Kinshiki dashed at him.

You just insinuated that he never lost his balance bit now your saying he did but at a later time? anyway he lost his balance when he additionally dodged Kinshiki's air assult. they're swords didn't even make contact when Kinshiki attacked him from the air.

use your eyes and not your ass.



Their swordsbmade contact after he lost his balance tink


Not like this example matters since Sakura's target was coming at her from dozens of meters away

Dozens of meters away?

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That and Sakura couldn't evade her target once it got within that range. Kakashi needed to save her ass. :lol

The point I'm making is her reflexive speed was fast enough to immediately react then dodge Kaguya's chakra hand when it was no more then 4 meters away. Sure Kaguya caught up with her but she still dodged it and it's a better dodging or evasive feat the Chojuro's against Kinshiki.

Kaguya>Kinshiki


That's exactly what was shown. She surprised him.

Using speed!

Didn't Kinshiki surprise Chojuro with speed as well?

Stop crying!

Having eyes all across your body is irrelevant when you only have 2 optic nerves, which is how sight is processed.

Pathetic excuse, shin just doesn't have regular eye's across his body. He has multiple implanted Mangekyō Sharingan across hid body and they each grant him superhuman visual perception and sight. But let's do the math: if their are 12 eyes how many optic nerves are between them?

Shin with eyes anywhere besides their sockets can't see out of said eyes

1. Sakura didn't attack him from the side, she charged him straight on and guess how many of his eyes were pointed in that direction..... all of them

2. Even if she attacked him from the side or behind, shin could still have perceived her attack, Shin's eyes on his head reacted to Sasuke's Fire Attack from the back or behind.Here's the page showing Shin's Head Eye reacting to Sasuke's attack from behind.

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What you need to pay attention too.

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I thought you said he couldn't see from the side of his head, clearly his eyes reacted right? His eyes rolled to the back of his head kid.



Off panel sneak attacks don't and won't ever count as real speed feats.

Use your eyes not your ass, what part of her attack was off panel?

Sakura punches shin



Shin goes down.



Shins in a veggie state.




off panel where?

The bold is a dumb question to ask since you yourself have no idea how fast Sakura was moving because she traveled off panel, but of course you are clinging to every weak feat you can because Sakura's speed feats as a whole barely exist.

She moved fast enough to negate his sharningans perception and his immediate peripheral vision.


Shockwave, chakra wave. Call it what you want, semantics don't interest me.

It's not about semantics it's about using words appropriately and identifying the context of those words something you don't want to do. A wave of chakra isn't necessarily A Shockwave, a Shockwave is conducive to creating a blast.

You can't make your own definitions.


Good job proving she can read Sasori's attack patterns. Now prove that she can do the same to someone who is faster with a completely different fighting style. I'll wait.

Prove that Chojuro's attack patterns are faster and more intricate then Sasori's. Sasori's puppeteering is more sophisticated in swordsmanship especially with two hands on one sword. If Sakura was able to successfully predict his movements and managed to evade he's iron fan and it's multiple shapes all from a distance following Chojuro's basic movements is nothing.

:lol It doesn't take a genius to realize that this isn't the part of that post I was referring to. Poor attempt at deflecting, but I can't blame you since your argument almost has no content whatsoever.


You're the only person who's deflecting not me stop reading from your ass and read with your eyes. go back and read your post idiot. What terrible excuse so because you can't counter effect that I posted you brush it off as deflection what a typical nincompoop. I said Sakura didn't have to use her seal up to regenerate in order to heal herself because she can heal herself without using her seals regeneration. You simply said that was based on nothing or evidence go read...

Why would he have to get past Katsuyu? Katsuyu isn't a shield that surrounds Sakura.

If Sakura summoned her in front of herself then she becomes a shield and that's ABC logic. When you stand behind something it becomes a shield get it?


he's a giant summon that has no offensive capability besides her acid

That Chojuro has no counter too.

The only thing he could do or can do is using speed/ stamina to evaded. Just keep in mind that her a seat covers Terrain based on its size and will eat through his flesh upon contact.


grand speed feat of being too slow to hit Manda in close range.

You may say that the slug is slow, but Katsuyu's clones were fast enough to throw themselves in front of Shizune, Ino and Inoichi before the Animal Path's rhino summon even managed to hit them.

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Yes, she can divide them, but then the acid's size is divided

More acid for Chojuro to dodge right?

Which means more stamina being used lol

well and it already has no good speed feat

Wrong, refer to feat above.

to let you argue Chojuro gets hit. So Chojuro simply goes around Katsuyu and attacks Sakura.

Lol he isn't passively going around this after taking a hit from acid slime and please don't say that he can jump up to Sakura if she's on top of katsuyu.

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Not a hard concept to grasp right?



Yet there was a 15 yr gap where anything could've happened. You can't make the argument that he knows nothing of her combat abilities unless you're gonna show me what happened during that 15 yr gap where Shikamaru supposedly knows nothing of his comrade's abilities, or his former Hokage's since Sakura is basically a clone of Tsunade, but slightly worse.

All conjecture that equates to Shit.

Sakura = a clone of Tsunade right?

Well shikamaru hasn't seen Tsunade go all out inability or was he in the background hiding when the kages fought Madara?
 

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lol you faps just don’t quit do you?
 
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Lmao when they can't form a reasonable response they call you a fap, your suppose to read the screen with your eyes and not you ass kid.

Sakura > Chojuro
 

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There is already multiple pages of this argument so plz dont continue..
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Shikamaru said they were the best here not village;

Sakura surpassed Tsunade, is Tsunade weaker then Kuro?

The manga also states that a Byakugou user is immortal in battle, are Sakura & Tsunade immortal?

The manga also states Sakura caught up with Naruto & Sasuke after she created her seal, true or false?



Kuro > Sakura in combat ability so she beats her in combat.

Feats please..

Sakura is faster, stronger, smarter and has many more feats.



Like I said, "End of Discussion". Anyone who wants to entertain this boy's delusional argumentation can go ahead.

Lol manga says Sakura caught up with Naruto & Sasuke during the climax of Madara vs SA after she manifested Byakugou. Was she on par with them? Your logic says that's true.

Sakura is now weaker than 3-year old Tsunade accoring to Zack's logic.

She's also immortal in battle according to the same logics right? Or we cherry picking?
 
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