Kurotsuchi > Sakura?

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What does that say? I can't read what's in there.

He put you on his ignore list, and said this:

"Do yourselves a favor and follow suit.

Not enough time in the day to waste another second arguing with this nincompoop trash poster. Anybody else want to try and argue against canon?"
 

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He put you on his ignore list, and said this:

"Do yourselves a favor and follow suit.

Not enough time in the day to waste another second arguing with this nincompoop trash poster. Anybody else want to try and argue against canon?"
Oh...

He's such a show-off. He probably did that just to gloat that ''hey, I ignore-listed him, I'm so cool. Now follow my lead.''

Just can't imagine how gullible someone has to be to take a character's statement as fact. That's not what I was taught in school.

Statements made by characters are regarded with caution. There could be some truth to them, but they could be wrong ultimately. I don't know why KidGamer thinks they're fact just because they came through the author.
 
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Kurotsuchi is easily faster than Sakura, She was able to get in Kinshiki's way and intercept him from striking Chojuro by landing a swift punch on his belly[ ], [ ]. And it is the same guy whose striking speed pressured Adult Sasuke into using Ameno [ ], [ ]. So that feat put Kurotsuchi's movements, reaction and striking speed above Sakura's.
Kurotsuchi appeared from the ground so it's not a movement feat but I agree it is a good reaction and striking feat which is most important in CQC.
Also, Kurotsuchi have a great physical strength. Her punch was able to send Kinshiki a high distance away and it also broke the roots of the tree [ ]. So no, Byakuguo won't tank a shit as it doesn't give its user any special durability, it only heals damage. But Kurotsuchi's punch would crush Sakura's skull and kill her instantly.
That's if Kurotsuchi can hit Sakura in the skull but I agree she'll get the first hit in in a CQC exchange.
Kurotsuchi Ash Stone Sealing Jutsu was able to bind Kinshiki who had the strength to completely demolish the Chunin Exam Arena and the whole stadium so no, Sakura can't break free from it. Also, unlike Kinshiki, She does not have a raw body power. She can only enhance the strength of some limbs at a time and not the whole the body at same time and that doesn't let her break out of Kurotsuchi's Jutsu. So yeah, Kurotsuchi definitely take this.
Ordinarily I see Sakura dodging it but after getting hit by a punch, Kurotsuchi can follow up with that and then she can suffocate Sakura to death.
 

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Sakura still wins either way. Kurotsuchi's combat capabilities tie down to a simple one-trick against Kinshiki with Chojuro, her elemental capabilities can be avoided and Sakura is smart enough to know to keep her distance until Kurotsuchi resorts to combat so she doesn't exhaust herself of chakra.

Scenario 1.

Byakugō gets activated and the spar begins, Kurotsuchi may strike once and Sakura reacts and retaliates, Kuro either dodges it or blocks it unaware that it's chakra-enhanced and her arms are destroyed = no handseals and eventual overpowering in combat.

Scenario 2

Sakura summons Katsuyu off the bat, they both close in on Kuro and Katsuyu splits into several miniature forms and proceeeds to fire a barrage of acid, Kurotsuchi will avoid the attack not knowing Sakura who will increase her speed via chakra is coming in with the same sucker-punch that caught a man with several MS and a woman with 360* vision off-guard. There's no doubt a Kurotsuchi distracted by two fatal distractions will survive this scenario.

Scenario 3

If she wants Sakura can just simply outlast her in hand-to hand combat because her reserves are 10x bigger, head strikes won't happen because Sakura can simply block the strike and Kuro hasn't shown the ability to kill someone with one strike. so unknowing to her Sakura can keep this fight going until Kurotsuchi is eventually exhausted of chakra and then she'll make her move.


P.S character statements aren't that important because last time I checked Sakura stated "I've finally caught up to the both of them" in regards to Naruto and Sasuke and she's with witnessed both of them in battle more than most characters. If I pulled out this statement in any plausible arguement I'd get trashed instantly, so stop nitpicking to try an discredit please.

Either way shikamaru has not witnessed Sakura in combat so how was he supposed to know?
 
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Faster? Not really. Kinshiki dashed at Chojuro and Chojuro dodged him. Sakura has no speed feats surpassing that.

Yes faster, Kinshiki dashing a Chojuro and Chojuro barley doing it while still getting grazed is moot.

> Sakura dodged & evade Kaguya's chakra arm which was really fast by Naruto's standards.

> Sakura blitzed Shin or got the jump on a MS user (multiple user at that).

> Sakura has also proven to have quick reflexes, able to grab Obito and get to safety just as the dimension he opened released acid.

Stronger? Obviously, but does it really matter? No, because he won't be contending with her physically when he is a swordsman.

Yes it matters and he will be using h2h combat against Sakura; he will most certainly be dealing with her super strength period (directly or indirectly).

- large scale shockwaves generated by her fist.
- unbending earth (large debris)
- insrantous veggie state with on tap



Smarter? Irrelevant.

Troll, intellect matters in swordsmanship just as it matters in battle period.

More feats? Irrelevant
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Another troll, if feats are so irrelevant then why have you mentioned Kinshiki dashing at Chojuro and Chojuro dodging him as a point of reference in your argument?



Regen? Also irrelevant. If she gets bisected she's down long enough for Chojuro to finish her off. That and her chakra has a limit. Constantly healing her removed limbs is going to lead her to defeat.

Sakura will not be be getting bisected simply :elmo:

She's is clever enough and fast enough to predict his movements, evade any long or short range reaches. Yes true Byakugou has it limits but Sakuras seal has over 15 years worth of stored chakra so chakra depletion? Nope.
She probably won't even need to open her seal to deal with him she can herself using mystical palm while making zero hand seals.


Her summon? Very irrelevant.

He won't be saying that once acid slime starts flying his direction and covering the ground. Actaully Chojuro has no counter to Katsuyu point blank and you know it so I see why you've undermined Sakura's summon..

Hidden Mist goes up, Sakura's senses get dulled[/QUOTE]

Sakura blitzes before he makes a handseal or better yet prevent him from casting the most with a cherry blossom impact directed dead at him. Either way mist isn't enouh..

Anyway, yeah I'm done.

Sakura is superior to him in every way except when It comes to a sword and that isn't enough. Sakura blitzes...
 

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Manga says Kurotsuchi is superior to Sakura, yet you still have Sakura fans even attempting to argue other wise. And they say Hinata fans are the crazy ones.
 

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Lol the manga states that Sakura caught up with Naruto & Sasuke but I bet if a Sakura fan perpetuates that in this argument they'd be considered a troll. Lol most people lose their shit when I factually prove Sakura as surpassing Tsunade as a medical ninja or when i prove Byakugou's regeneration is instant... hypocrites in mist! Besides the manga never compared, contrasted nor distingised Kuro being stronger then Sakura in a proprietary sense becuase she isn't.

Be :salt:

Sakura can take her.
 

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Kurotsuchi got taken because she is primarily a combat type. Sakura is not. She has to be a medic first so she stayed in the village to do her job.

Now, do I think Sakura fights on a kage level based on all I have seen? No.

Do I think the current 5 kage besides Naruto and Gaara are significantly stronger than Sakura? No.

Sakura is in the same ballpark as them. I can see her giving difficulty or pulling a win on those 3.

I also love how they tried to put themselves on Naruto's level and bash the new generation in the last anime episode lol Like don't get it twisted. You all could not even fight Kaguya.
 
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Lol the manga states that Sakura caught up with Naruto & Sasuke but I bet if a Sakura fan perpetuates that in this argument they'd be considered a troll. Lol most people lose their shit when I factually prove Sakura as surpassing Tsunade as a medical ninja or when i prove Byakugou's regeneration is instant... hypocrites in mist! Besides the manga never compared, contrasted nor distingised Kuro being stronger then Sakura in a proprietary sense becuase she isn't.

Be :salt:

Sakura can take her.

sakura said that not the manga. And we know she's a liar.
 

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Sakura still wins either way. Kurotsuchi's combat capabilities tie down to a simple one-trick against Kinshiki with Chojuro, her elemental capabilities can be avoided and Sakura is smart enough to know to keep her distance until Kurotsuchi resorts to combat so she doesn't exhaust herself of chakra.

Scenario 1.

Byakugō gets activated and the spar begins, Kurotsuchi may strike once and Sakura reacts and retaliates, Kuro either dodges it or blocks it unaware that it's chakra-enhanced and her arms are destroyed = no handseals and eventual overpowering in combat.

Scenario 2

Sakura summons Katsuyu off the bat, they both close in on Kuro and Katsuyu splits into several miniature forms and proceeeds to fire a barrage of acid, Kurotsuchi will avoid the attack not knowing Sakura who will increase her speed via chakra is coming in with the same sucker-punch that caught a man with several MS and a woman with 360* vision off-guard. There's no doubt a Kurotsuchi distracted by two fatal distractions will survive this scenario.

Scenario 3

If she wants Sakura can just simply outlast her in hand-to hand combat because her reserves are 10x bigger, head strikes won't happen because Sakura can simply block the strike and Kuro hasn't shown the ability to kill someone with one strike. so unknowing to her Sakura can keep this fight going until Kurotsuchi is eventually exhausted of chakra and then she'll make her move.


P.S character statements aren't that important because last time I checked Sakura stated "I've finally caught up to the both of them" in regards to Naruto and Sasuke and she's with witnessed both of them in battle more than most characters. If I pulled out this statement in any plausible arguement I'd get trashed instantly, so stop nitpicking to try an discredit please.


Either way shikamaru has not witnessed Sakura in combat so how was he supposed to know?

You people are something else. You'd get trashed instantly because "I've finally caught up to them" doesn't refer to her being equal to them in power. "I've finally caught up to them" refers to how she can fight alongside them instead of being a burden who is forced to watch on the sidelines. Can you guys not read into the context at all?

Shikamaru knows of Sakura's powers from the War and beyond. There is no debate to be had here. Even your feats based analysis is flawed beyond belief.

S1 makes zero sense because Kurotsuchi's casual strike surpasses Sakura's, thus the latter gets overpowered. S2 makes zero sense because you've yet to show how a distraction of acid with zero speed feats let alone the same acid but divided into tiny little pieces is going to be enough for Sakura to hit Kurotsuchi. What's worse is that you've compared Kaguya being distracted w/ Naruto and Sasuke, the only people who can beat her and Shin, someone who was unaware of her presence altogether, to an in-battle distraction where Kurotsuchi will still be aware of Sakura's presence. S3 makes no sense because not only is Sakura not powerful enough to go against Kurotsuchi and not be defeated, Kurotsuchi's Lava Release bound Kinshiki. :lol

The world isn't going to end if your favs aren't as strong as you think. :lol

Yes faster, Kinshiki dashing a Chojuro and Chojuro barley doing it while still getting grazed is moot.

I've already posted a scan of him dodging an actual charge. What you are describing is when they were fighting in close combat.

> Sakura dodged & evade Kaguya's chakra arm which was really fast by Naruto's standards.

Nope. She was dozens and dozens of meters away and was about to get caught had Kakashi not saved her.

> Sakura blitzed Shin or got the jump on a MS user (multiple user at that).

Surprise attacks aren't blitzes.

> Sakura has also proven to have quick reflexes, able to grab Obito and get to safety just as the dimension he opened released acid.

Not a better feat than dodging Kinshiki.

Yes it matters and he will be using h2h combat against Sakura; he will most certainly be dealing with her super strength period (directly or indirectly).

- large scale shockwaves generated by her fist.
- unbending earth (large debris)
- insrantous veggie state with on tap

Swordplay is not hand to hand. The only thing that's dangerous is the fact that her punches create shockwaves, but his blade produces shockwaves that are far more penetrative than Sakura's so he would win



Troll, intellect matters in swordsmanship just as it matters in battle period.

Except it doesn't no matter how hard you whine.
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Another troll, if feats are so irrelevant then why have you mentioned Kinshiki dashing at Chojuro and Chojuro dodging him as a point of reference in your argument?

Where did I say feats are irrelevant? Sometimes it baffles me how people this foolish can exist.

Then I remember that this is the internet. :lol

Sakura will not be be getting bisected simply :elmo:

Great argument.

She's is clever enough and fast enough to predict his movements, evade any long or short range reaches. Yes true Byakugou has it limits but Sakuras seal has over 15 years worth of stored chakra so chakra depletion? Nope.

Based on what? Nothing at all.


She probably won't even need to open her seal to deal with him she can herself using mystical palm while making zero hand seals.

More evidence based on nothing.


He won't be saying that once acid slime starts flying his direction and covering the ground. Actaully Chojuro has no counter to Katsuyu point blank and you know it so I see why you've undermined Sakura's summon..


There is nothing to counter. He doesn't need to defeat her to beat Sakura nor can it's attacks land on him.

Sakura blitzes before he makes a handseal or better yet prevent him from casting the most with a cherry blossom impact directed dead at him. Either way mist isn't enouh..

Sakura blitzes Chojuro yet Kinshiki wasn't able to. :lol You fanboys are something else.

Anyway, yeah I'm done.

Sakura is superior to him in every way except when It comes to a sword and that isn't enough. Sakura blitzes...

Chojuro shits. Don't EVER quote me or reference any of my posts again.
 
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Lol the manga states that Sakura caught up with Naruto & Sasuke but I bet if a Sakura fan perpetuates that in this argument they'd be considered a troll. Lol most people lose their shit when I factually prove Sakura as surpassing Tsunade as a medical ninja or when i prove Byakugou's regeneration is instant... hypocrites in mist! Besides the manga never compared, contrasted nor distingised Kuro being stronger then Sakura in a proprietary sense becuase she isn't.

Be :salt:

Sakura can take her.

Dont say her regeneration is instant because people will go nitpicking about that. You know what instant means. So instead instand you can say they can heal in couple second which is true.

What Sakura said is true she did finally caught up to them , she is no longer just observe who is completely helpless ,while Naruto and Sasuke are doing all the job. She now can fight in same way as they do and not watch them from behind. Thats what she really meant.
 

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Isn't that the film where kishi simply asked for more taijutsu and the guy essentially made it look like dbz? lol

I guess... I can see where ike got his formula from but it still doesn't mean it's ces but rather everyone is just physically stronger and durable. hell you got the current kages surviving direct blows from what is essentially around the same level as juubito(movie) or juubidara (manga)
Well, pretty much and i never said it was CES. I mean, isn't that exclusive to Tsunade, Sakura and Sarada?
 

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Shikamadu knows of Sakura's powers from the War and beyond. There is no debate to be had here. Even your feats based analysis is flawed beyond belief.

Shikamaru has never witnessed combat from sakuea in the war arc, he witnessed her recover the entire alliance but that's about it.


S1 makes zero sense because Kurotsuchi's casual strike surpasses Sakura's, thus the latter gets overpowered.

Sakura's casual strikes surpass that of Kurotsuchi's, and even if she does get overpowered she can still brush it off and return if Kurotsuchi was to get overpowered it would mean she's gone.

S2 makes zero sense because you've yet to show how a distraction of acid with zero speed feats let alone the same acid but divided into tiny little pieces is going to be enough for Sakura to hit Kurotsuchi.

It doesn't require speed feats if let's say 20 miniature Katsuyu which will cover a large surface area are spewing acid in all directions, obviously it's going to keep Kurotsuchi on her toes. Not to mention Orochimaru implied that her acid could even kill him so it's not something that she can simply undermine. Sakura's chakra control allows her to increase her speed and this was shown in PT I with her skills now she could basically land some sort of strike on her, intercepting or blocking results in a major loss for Kuro.

What's worse is that you've compared Kaguya being distracted w/ Naruto and Sasuke, the only people who can beat her and Shin, someone who was unaware of her presence altogether, to an in-battle distraction where Kurotsuchi will still be aware of Sakura's presence. S3 makes no sense because not only is Sakura not powerful enough to go against Kurotsuchi and not be defeated, Kurotsuchi's Lava Release bound Kinshiki. :lol

Kaguya had byakugan, 360 division and Naruto and Sasuke barely covered half of that not to mention she is a goddess so being distracted really wasn't an excuse in her case not to mention she could have interfered Sakura too.

Kurotsuchi may be aware but will she have the ability to constantly dodge Katsuyu's fatal acid and Sakura's assaults. Kurotsuchi will have to avoid any form of damage from the both of them for her to completely win this battle and that's frankly impossible.


The world isn't going to end if your favs aren't as strong as you think. :lol

lol I know that it's just Sakura has shown more susceptible feats than Kuro and I just believe she's stronger.
 

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Rasta , betta yuh Gwan bill nd lock Chat. You were pretty much mauled here , so much so that a pretty much heard Kidgamer's voice through the words as the guy from CinemaSins giving sins with a ping for every counter-quote.... hmm MangaSins, anyway Just go hold a medz bro..
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I've already posted a scan of him dodging an actual charge. What you are describing is when they were fighting in close combat.

And it's a moot example chojuro didn't dodge an actual charge. When Kinshiki actually charged him head on he didn't do shit (1) Kinshiki's sword overpowered his own (2) Kinshiki's swipped him or cut him. I'm sorry but it's moot compared to Sakura Blitzing shin or out maneuvering his multi Sharnigan in a direct assault or even the reflexes she demonstrated when she dodged Kaguya's chakra hand when it was only meters away. Sakura is faster fam...

. She was dozens and dozens of meters away

Nope. Manga scan below, meters? Zzz Sakura did however put meters in between her and the chakra hand the first time she dodged it.

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The chakra arm was dead ass above her, it's shadow even casted upon her yet she managed to evade its initial attempt to grab her and speedfully evaded it (put meters in between herself and it) for as long as she could meanwhile....

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chojuro gets attacked from above did (like Sakura was by the chakra arm) but non-skilfully loses his postion/balance (unlike Sakura) and his speed his instantly countered or rendered moot (unlike Sakura who actually put up a speedful resistance for how ever long).


Surprise attacks aren't blitzes.

You can't surprise a MS user who has actually have a dozen implanted and activated in the direction your coming from but even if you don't wanna consider it a blitz, has chojuro ever offensively moved that fast at all in the manga? Nope.

Sakura speed> his speed.


Swordplay is not hand to hand.

I don't think anyone here has said diffrent.

I think I said hand to hand doesn't become irrlavent on this discussion or something along those lines.

The only thing that's dangerous is the fact that her punches create shockwaves, but his blade produces shockwaves that are far more penetrative than Sakura's so he would win

Come again? His sword doesn't have shockwaves nor does Hiramekarei have any feats of omitting an explosion the way the impact behind one of Sakura's punches does. TF? Hiramekarei omits chakra in a blade form similar to the chakra scalpel and cuts directly through it's target. The only thing you could be referencing is the feat below and if you wanna deem that as a bigger explosion or shockwave then be guest but you'll look incompetent.

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Compared to: An expansion in which chakra is transmitted outward as a shock wave (Sakura's punch).

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Where did I say feats are irrelevant? Sometimes it baffles me how people this foolish can exist

Go back and read your previous post, instead of calling names.

Based on what? Nothing at all.

Based on nothing? Sakura doesn't have feats or isn't cleaver enough to read through offensive attack patterns? I swear she saw through Sasori's puppetry on her own.

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More evidence based on nothing.

Based on nothing? Sakura hasn't healed herself without using Byakugou or with mystical palm without using hand seals?

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There is nothing to counter. He doesn't need to defeat her to beat Sakura nor can it's attacks land on him.

That's all you got? Lol He has to get past Katsuyu to get to Sakura and he has no way of doing that. She is impervious to physical attacks and I know for certain that he has no way to combat her slime besides using up his stamina to evade it lol, nevermind the fact she can divide then attack from various positions; while Sakura can just ambush dude while he's preoccupied with Katsuyu(s) lol



Sakura blitzes Chojuro yet Kinshiki wasn't able to. :lol You fanboys are something else.

He did blitz Chojuro and injured him too.

Your the undercover fanboy. :sakura:


Chojuro shits. Don't EVER quote me or reference any of my posts again.

I've already owned you and I don't waste my time on sore losers, ever

Sakura blitzes, lay off the estrogen.
 
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