Kurotsuchi > Sakura?

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Azarath Metrion Zinthos

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Nope. That's exactly what you said.

"Lee who's faster than a TSB with Guy in his arms could be defeated by Kuro?"

Who is "Lee who's faster than a TSB w/ Guy in his arms"?

Oh yes, this guy. [ ] War Arc Lee. In the 5th Gate no less. You are saying that this feat puts him above these 2 ergo 5G War Lee>Kage Kurotsuchi and Chojuro individually, which is asinine even coming from the likes of you.



Not even Kinshiki can blitz Chojuro flat out, yet you think Lee has the ability too?

Lmao. You're doing just fine making yourself look like an idiot. My help is not required.

Manga is inconsistent dude and which audience would want to see the Kage's getting one-shot as they should have been since they didn't have the speed to even go against JJ Obito (who has inferior speed feats to Kinshiki)?

Like the Kage could realistically match Kinshiki in speed who's tiers faster than JJ Obito.

Manga is just inconsistent that's all.

It's just like Dragonball Super where characters that aren't supposedly able to take on Goku in his Base can take him on in SSB.

You'll even claim now that the Kage's can fight JJ Obito because they took on Kinshiki who's tiers faster than Obito? Okay.

I'm done here. Clearly, you're just a fap who uses incoherent logic to argue his points.

Keep switching sides when it suits your case.

Tomorrow you will go by your own logic, not what the author said.
 
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They all look like they have ces so that can't be teh reason so instead I think this ikemoto guy just likes to draw his characters sent flying from almost anyone's kicks or punches. so it isn't neccessarily ces.
Eh, she sent him flying in the movie too so...
 

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KidGamer and his obsession with this emo :)lol) shows he's just a troll.

He's siding with the author now, but few days ago he was TOTALLY against the author, saying that Sharingan originates from Rinne Sharingan when the author said that's not the case.

The hypocrisy.

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Stop using that emoticon. It's annoying dude. Be matured for once.

Well... Who cares? The author was trying to tell us about where the Sharingan originates from

He wouldn't just put it there just clarify something all for it to just be an assumption, now would he? No.

I'm not going to argue with you now.

You've shown how much of a chameleon you are.

You said you will side with what the author says yet go against what he wrote about the Sharingan's origin.


Stop comparing the two because both came from the author, right?

If you can discern between the two scenarios, and oppose the author, then surely you can discern Shikamaru's statement and come to your own conclusion just as you did with Kakashi's.

You're just a hypocrite dude.



And the Manga never once said that the Sharingan came from the Byakugan. What was stated is that the Uchiha Clan can find it's origins within the history of the Hyuga Clan, which was later proven to be fact.



The Hyuga are direct descendants of Hamura and share the natural born Dojutsu of the clan, and his mother is where the Sharingan comes from. So start at the Uchiha and trace back and you arrive at Kaguya, the mother of the origin of the Hyuga, thus the origin of the Hyuga.

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Kakashi assumed that the Byakugan was the Sharingan's originator and was proven wrong.

Shikamaru has knowledge on the combat ability of all the Kage and Sakura as that is one of his peers. Stop comparing the two. :lol
Stop using that emoticon. It's annoying dude. Be matured for once.

Well... Who cares? The author was trying to tell us about where the Sharingan originates from

He wouldn't just put it there just clarify something all for it to just be an assumption, now would he? No.

I'm not going to argue with you now.

You've shown how much of a chameleon you are.

You said you will side with what the author says yet go against what he wrote about the Sharingan's origin.


Stop comparing the two because both came from the author, right?

If you can discern between the two scenarios, and oppose the author, then surely you can discern Shikamaru's statement and come to your own conclusion just as you did with Kakashi's.

You're just a hypocrite dude.
 

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This is actually why ANIME fans are so dumb.

They all take words as fact.

For instance, Kakashi said the Sharingan in the Manga originates from the Byakugan. It's in the Manga - what the author stated.

So by that logic, all of us should believe it does originate from the Byakugan despite ''what you perceived says it's not the case.''

So in other words, KidGamer believes the Sharingan originates from the Byakugan ''despite what he perceived.''

Or he's just a hypocrite.

In some instances we cant use manga statement if other fact is presented to cancel out that statement also you need to consider Kakashi situation at the time he put out such statement. It came from his own deductions. Not referring to any knowledge sources like scroll, book etc. Kakash's statement is not a fact but more about his own conclusion where good mind can differentiate between solid fact or just an assumption.

Author here view/put Kakashi in 'assuming' position and not 'fact producing' situation.

In any other instances we can use a statement from manga and take it as fact if there's no contradiction, in line of logic, authentic or can be trusted.

Kidgamer is not blindly follows any manga words by words. There still a things to consider in to seek the authenticity of any manga words/statements.
 
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Manga is inconsistent dude and which audience would want to see the Kage's getting one-shot as they should have been since they didn't have the speed to even go against JJ Obito (who has inferior speed feats to Kinshiki)?

Like the Kage could realistically match Kinshiki in speed who's tiers faster than JJ Obito.

Manga is just inconsistent that's all.

It's just like Dragonball Super where characters that aren't supposedly able to take on Goku in his Base can take him on in SSB.

Kinshiki is not tiers faster than Juubito nor are his speed feats more impressive nor did the Kage even match him in speed. There is no inconsistency here.
 

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Delete that photo. Don't you know Bart Simpson is only 10?! That's the age Pedophiles (ZACK) consider PRIME. Hide the kids.

 

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Your Avatar has a piece of shit covering half of Madara's beautiful face so I doubt it.

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he dont know nothing about tobidara aka Madara

he's fake Madara believer...

victim of kishimoto's illusion

stay in dat illusion for eternity
 

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And the Manga never once said that the Sharingan came from the Byakugan. What was stated is that the Uchiha Clan can find it's origins within the history of the Hyuga Clan, which was later proven to be fact.



The Hyuga are direct descendants of Hamura and share the natural born Dojutsu of the clan, and his mother is where the Sharingan comes from. So start at the Uchiha and trace back and you arrive at Kaguya, the mother of the origin of the Hyuga, thus the origin of the Hyuga.

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The Manga never once said the Sharingan originates from the Byakugan? I'm on a mobile dude so I can use scans but that is bs.

It's in the Manga, Kakashi says the Hyuuga is the oldest clan in the village and that the Sharingan originates from them.

It's still what the author was telling us, and you were one of the people that believed that was true, until the Manga proved otherwise.

So this proves the author could be wrong as well.

But for some reason, you seem to think what the author says is what it is, when it's the same author who indicate the Sharingan came from the Byakugan but dumped that idea along the line.
 

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In some instances we cant use manga statement if other fact is presented to cancel out that statement also you need to consider Kakashi situation at the time he put out such statement. It came from his own deductions. Not referring to any knowledge sources like scroll, book etc. Kakash's statement is not a fact but more about his own conclusion where good mind can differentiate between solid fact or just an assumption.

Author here view/put Kakashi in 'assuming' position and not 'fact producing' situation.

In any other instances we can use a statement from manga and take it as fact if there's no contradiction, in line of logic, authentic or can be trusted.

Kidgamer is not blindly follows any manga words by words. There still a things to consider in to seek the authenticity of any manga words/statements.

Didn't really read... But from what you're telling me...

It only becomes ''Kakashi's statement and NOT the author's'' when you want it to right?

Becaus everyone here says Shikamaru's statement comes from the author, thus should be regarded as fact.

Why should Kakashi's statement be not? He didn't look to be guessing there, AT ALL. He just suddenly stated that the Sharingan originates from the Byakugan. And everyone who was reading the Manga at the time took it as fact. We all ate it up.

KidGamer is doing the same now. He's eating it up... The entire statement. Because what, it comes from the author? Same author who made Kakashi state what he stated, and later changed it up down the line.

So in essence, people only use their brains when it's going to help their point.

At the moment, KidGamer will not use his brains because he wants Kurotsuchi to be stronger than Sakura/Lee. He'll even disregard all of their feats just because the author supposedly states that Kurotsuchi is stronger.
 

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The Manga never once said the Sharingan originates from the Byakugan? I'm on a mobile dude so I can use scans but that is bs.

It's in the Manga, Kakashi says the Hyuuga is the oldest clan in the village and that the Sharingan originates from them.

It's still what the author was telling us, and you were one of the people that believed that was true, until the Manga proved otherwise.

So this proves the author could be wrong as well.

But for some reason, you seem to think what the author says is what it is, when it's the same author who indicate the Sharingan came from the Byakugan but dumped that idea along the line.

Nope. None of this horseshit was ever stated. What was stated is that Uchiha's origins like with Hyuga, which was proven to be true. I just posted the scan for you yet you still trying to argue. :lol That and what Kakashi assumes about a clan's history he knows little about given the fact he's only 28 isn't comparable to Shikamaru, the smartest man in Konoha and possibly alive, knows about his peers and allies.

But let's adopt your garbage line of thinking for a second. Let's say that the Manga did say that the Sharingan eye came from the Byakugan eye. The Manga later proved that wrong. The Manga also said that the combat power of the Momo fight force is the best they have. Did the Manga prove that wrong?

No, but you and the rest of the people who have a raging boner for feats will disagree. So then I'll ask you where Kurotsuchi or Chojuro went all out and was shown to be inferior to Sakura.

The answer is nowhere. Thus the statement stands. Don't reply if you are going to cry and complain like a little whiny brat nor should you reply if you aren't going to address every damn word in my post.

S/N: Chojuro already has enough feats to go above Sakura anyway.
 

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Kinshiki is not tiers faster than Juubito nor are his speed feats more impressive nor did the Kage even match him in speed. There is no inconsistency here.
So you think it was realistic that they could do anything at all to Kinshiki? Okay.
 

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Welp, one things for sure; Sakura is literally the most popular character on this site. No idea why everyone seems to love discussing her so much, but oh well.

OT: Kurotsuchi > Sakura. I cant understand why it hurts the Sakura faps pride so much for her to not be the #1 chick, most of my favs dont even grace the top of 10 of any lists and you dont hear me whining. Shes a medical ninja with a killer right hook, not a warrior. The fact that shes still so high up should be good enough.
 

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So you think it was realistic that they could do anything at all to Kinshiki? Okay.

If you disagree explain why not or just stop posting because it is not possible for me to care any less about your opinionated posts than I already do.
 

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The Manga never once said the Sharingan originates from the Byakugan? I'm on a mobile dude so I can use scans but that is bs.

It's in the Manga, Kakashi says the Hyuuga is the oldest clan in the village and that the Sharingan originates from them.

It's still what the author was telling us, and you were one of the people that believed that was true, until the Manga proved otherwise.

So this proves the author could be wrong as well.

But for some reason, you seem to think what the author says is what it is, when it's the same author who indicate the Sharingan came from the Byakugan but dumped that idea along the line.

'They said' to Kakashi and Kakashi just informing the finding to his students.

Its closed to the truth as Byakugan clan(Otsutsuki) and more specifically Kaguya also has Sharingan on her forehead.

No one knows the existence of Otsutsuki race before Hagoromo told the story to only Naruto and Sasuke. More people know about them further after the end of 4th World War.

The message is there Hyuuga clan is closely connected/related to Otsutsuki. Sharingan traced back its origin to Hyuuga clan origin, Otsutsuki more precisely Kaguya Otsutsuki and then Hagoromo and Hamura.

The info is close to correct.
 
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"Chojuro already has enough feats to go above Sakura anyway."

Fanfic! Sakura beats him too.
 
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