[Discussion] Kurotsuchi: closet psychopath?

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Just after I finished my last thread I kinda felt the urge to create a Mayuri one..This is going to be a very hard list to write. Because I just have too many things to say. How will I narrow it down to 10?! Because let’s face it, if not for the fact that he’s technically on the good side, Kurotsuchi would be the most sadistic evil villain ever. As it is, he’s the most sadistic evil good guy around! So let’s consider what makes Kurotsuchi Kurotsuchi.


1. He tortured Ishida’s grandfather to death.

I’m gonna start with this one, because I still haven’t gotten over it. Kurotsuchi tortured Ishida’s grandfather to death. First he delayed rescue when Ishida’s grandfather got attacked by giant hollows, so that little Ishida had to watch his grandfather die - or so he thought. But no! Actually Kurotsuchi captured Soken alive, took him back to Soul Society, and then tortured him to death. And then Kurotsuchi apparently started carrying around a picture of Soken. A picture he took when Soken “no longer retained his form.” And then he showed it to Ishida. Because he is, well, kinda extremely evil.


2. He turned his squad members into human bombs.

And it’s not like Kurotsuchi just acts that way with Soul Society’s “enemies.” He has a cavalier disregard for anyone’s life - especially if it’s people he considers his own possessions. Like his squad members - you know, the ones he turned into human bombs in an attempt to kill Orihime and Ishida. Including Strangely Handsome Squad 12 guy, who screamed and asked Kurotsuchi why he was doing this to them. I’m sorry, Strangely Handsome Squad 12 guy. That’s just what your captain is like.


3. The way he treats Nemu.

But of all the things Kurotsuchi does, the one that gets me the most is the way he treats Nemu. You know, the constant physical and verbal abuse. Not only does he constantly insult her and demean her, but he’s always sacrificing her to get the jump on his opponents. In fight with Ishida, Nemu grabbed the Quincy so that her captain her stab him - and also her. He then got mad and stomped on her when she asked later if she could maybe have the antidote. Plus there was the Szayel fight later. When Kurotsuchi let Nemu get eaten - since after all there was a poison in her blood because of course there was.


4. He’s cool with hurting his allies.

Basically, Kurotsuchi is just really okay with hurting his allies. And not just his own squad members, either. He seriously considers shutting Ichigo and Unohana in the garganta forever, just because. He wishes aloud that Kenpachi and Byakuya might die in the Yammy fight so that he can dissect them. I’m fairly certain that if the entire Gotei-13 were killed, Kurotsuchi would think it Christmas.


5. His shikai and bankai.

Also, let’s not forget that his shikai contains a poison that paralyzes its victim but leaves their nerves intact so that the person can still feel everything. And by “everything” I mean pain. Intense pain while Kurotsuchi tortures them. And this is the power produced by Kurotsuchi’s soul - a power that renders its victims helpless so that Kurotsuchi can hurt them. Yes. And his bankai is a horrible caterpillar baby monster that shoots poisonous spikes out of its chest and breathes poison. That is not the bankai of a well-adjusted guy. Because seriously, who fights using a baby monster? That sounds soo wicked imo.

6. The way he uses people.
In the latest chapters Mayuri just used a weird drug on Toshiro and all other captains. Who really spends time to create drugs that make opponent restart whenever they defeat you. That is a red flag for me, especially the way he transforms them to his zombies. One would think he would have helped them to change back to humans.. but no Mayuri will make them his. Its like whenever he finds a toy someone has he would take it from himself. I suppose he would have done the same to Yamamoto if his body was not destroyed by Yhwach.

7. He was in the Maggot’s Nest.

We don’t know yet why Kurotsuchi got himself thrown in the Maggot’s Nest, although I imagine we will find out eventually. I assume it’s because somebody noticed that he was both very smart and very sadistic. I mean, he was the only guy who had his own private cell. Because he was just that dangerous. And now he’s a captain. Keep on being you, Soul Society.


8. The way he killed Szayel.

Speaking of horrible things, I think by far the worst death on Bleach belongs to Szayel. Kurotsuchi gave him a death that lasted, from his perspective, thousands of years. Thousands of horrible, mind-numbing, unable-to-move, scary, agonizing years. I mean, Szayel was no cuddly kitten himself, but I don’t think he deserved that.


9. The way he views the world - and himself.

Basically, I think Kurotsuchi just sees the whole world the way he sees himself. He’s quite cavalier with his own body - he loses limbs and regrows them, removes his own ear to fight with it, turns to goo and reconstitutes himself - his body is something that can be taken apart and put back together and if he feels pain he doesn’t show it. And Kurotsuchi, unfortunately, seems to think the entire world works like that - all people are puzzles waiting to be dissected.


10. The way he spoke to Orihime.

And I don’t know. Do we need more of this? Maybe. We should have 10. So I’m just gonna leave this thing here, that Kurotsuchi once said to Orihime:

“If you work for me, I’ll treat you well. In case you are worried, I am really gentle with female subjects. How about this? I’ll give you top class special treatment. I’ll only drug you eight times a day and only four hours of machine operations a day. You will eat with your mouth and when you sleep, I’ll give you clothes. And I’ll stay away from any life-threatening operations if I operate on you. How about it? This is a special offer that I’ve never offered to any test subject before.”

well this is a last psycho thread from me guys.. well atleast from these upcoming months..
 

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You did a nice evaluation of Kurotsuchi and all these attributes point out to his dark side.
He is a psychopath and there are no second thoughts about it.
I think Kubo purposefully created Mayuri to show paradoxical nature of the bleach world, yeah he is on the good side but yet he is a misanthropic narcissistic psychopath who would employ any means necessary.

He is kind of a character who is good to have on your side but dare he stands against you.
For Kubo he is plot device to pull off insane plot lines/ moments with a good character and even though he is fun, you sometimes would feel revulsion for his methods.

He is one of the enjoyable greyer shade characters, the one who is on the good side by some miracle and casually festers to the dark side.
 
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XD lol... but but he tries to hide it sometimes like say "Its for science/ my experiments"
I really don't think that him saying "it's for science" is an excuse or an attempt to hide his sociopathic/psychopathic tendencies. Mayuri's rationale for all his "experiments" is earnestly in the pursuit of science and higher understanding.

It's similar to the Nazis doctors experiments on Jews and other supposed "undesirables". Everything they did was in their eyes for the sake of science. Granted there were ethnic connotations and the fact that they viewed their "patients" as sub-human that allowed them to test with a particular lack of remorse but an advancement of science and higher understanding was their ultimate goal.They probably did not view themselves as sociopaths/psychopaths in the least.

Mayuri is the exact same way, science is the ends and relentless experimentation is the way to meet that ends. There are virtually no personal feelings involved, Mayuri doesnt view his "patients" with any attachment, and he doesnt view himself as a psychopath despite displaying all the characteristics of one, why? Because to Mayuri his patients are nothing and by his logic how can you harm nothing?

In short, Mayuri isn't making excuses he earnestly believes that all his actions are justified by science.
 
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I really don't think that him saying "it's for science" is an excuse or an attempt to hide his sociopathic/psychopathic tendencies. Mayuri's rationale for all his "experiments" is earnestly in the pursuit of science and higher understanding.

It's similar to the Nazis doctors experiments on Jews and other supposed "undesirables". Everything they did was in their eyes for the sake of science. Granted there were ethnic connotations and the fact that they viewed their "patients" as sub-human that allowed them to test with a particular lack of remorse but an advancement of science and higher understanding was their ultimate goal.They probably did not view themselves as sociopaths/psychopaths in the least.

Mayuri is the exact same way, science is the ends and relentless experimentation is the way to meet that ends. There are virtually no personal feelings involved, Mayuri doesnt view his "patients" with any attachment, and he doesnt view himself as a psychopath despite displaying all the characteristics of one, why? Because to Mayuri his patients are nothing and by his logic how can you harm nothing?

In short, Mayuri isn't making excuses he earnestly believes that all his actions are justified by science.
Well... pretty much this, but those reasons are why I view him as a closet psycho
 
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