[Theory] Kurama "Sage" Mode won't be possible for now.

[FearxDeath]

Actually, this is a foreshadow that tells us about Naruto, even with Yang AND Yin Kurama, won't be strong enough to reach Obito's current power levels... because until now the only proof is that Sage Mode deals damage to Obito, and Naruto doesn't have enough speed to reach Obito by his own means...

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Good point, I wonder if Naruto can use KCM while a clone uses SM? x__x lol, the skies the limit when you have unlimited chakra =D

 

[aMgDrew]

Spiritual Energy + Physical Energy + Natural Energy = Senjutsu.

Tailed Beasts are not Senjutsu.

Tailed Beasts are pure Natural Energy. They don't need to mix their Ying and Yang.

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In other words. You're saying that if Kurama has his Ying and Yang together, then he can learn Senjutsu?

The thing is. A Tailed Beast has his own "pattern" of Natural Energy. They don't mix any type of Energy Sources. They are Natural Energy themselves.

 

[FearxDeath]

Spiritual Energy + Physical Energy + Natural Energy = Senjutsu.

Tailed Beasts are not Senjutsu.

Tailed Beasts are pure Natural Energy. They don't need to mix their Ying and Yang.

Your an idiot... How dare you have the audacity to post nonsense like that in Hidoramas thread...

 

[aMgDrew]

Your an idiot... How dare you have the audacity to post nonsense like that in Hidoramas thread...

You're*

Your argument is invalid.

 

[FearxDeath]

You're*

Your argument is invalid.

Fine...

Here are a few of the recent scans where the Kyubi is refered to as having Chakra, not "Pure Nature Energy" as you speak of:

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Here the Juubi's Chakra is said to have been split into the 9 bijuu:

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Note that Nature Energy is not Chakra, Chakra is the mixture of Yin and Yang Energy. To make Senjutsu you merely add Nature Chakra to that mixture of Yin and Yang, but Nature Energy is not Chakra. This is evident in the following scan where they do not refer to the Juubi's Nature Energy as Chakra, but rather Nature Energy, this follows the statement where they say that the Gedo's bad chakra disapeared:

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Now note that before when Obito was talking at the summit he said " But the Juubi's Chakra was so massive and so foul that..." and yet when it is summoned Naruto states "The Bad Chakra of the Gedo Mazou has dissapeared".. I believe the final form of the Juubi will use Senjutsu, as in Yang/Yin/ and Nature chakra which it is abundant in. Seeing as how in recent chapters we see that Senjutsu works against Juubito, I think there is infact a connection here...

I think ill turn this into a thread x__x, eitherway their you have it... My "Invalid" argument...

 

[aMgDrew]

Fine...

Here are a few of the recent scans where the Kyubi is refered to as having Chakra, not "Pure Nature Energy" as you speak of:

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Here the Juubi's Chakra is said to have been split into the 9 bijuu:

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Note that Nature Energy is not Chakra, Chakra is the mixture of Yin and Yang Energy. To make Senjutsu you merely add Nature Chakra to that mixture of Yin and Yang, but Nature Energy is not Chakra. This is evident in the following scan where they do not refer to the Juubi's Nature Energy as Chakra, but rather Nature Energy, this follows the statement where they say that the Gedo's bad chakra disapeared:

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Now note that before when Obito was talking at the summit he said " But the Juubi's Chakra was so massive and so foul that..." and yet when it is summoned Naruto states "The Bad Chakra of the Gedo Mazou has dissapeared".. I believe the final form of the Juubi will use Senjutsu, as in Yang/Yin/ and Nature chakra which it is abundant in. Seeing as how in recent chapters we see that Senjutsu works against Juubito, I think there is infact a connection here...

I think ill turn this into a thread x__x, eitherway their you have it... My "Invalid" argument...

Alright. You made a point there.
But you see, I'm a retarded person and explain to me this please.

How does Kyuubi produce/restore/collect/generate his Chakra if he needs both Yin and Yang to do it just like any other "human"?

Well, if it's Chakra that Kyuubi produces/restores/collects/generates then he must have both Yin and Yang. But he doesn't.

What I'm saying is that everybody may refer to it as "Kyuubi's Chakra" but in reality it's Natural Chakra that he has. Basically. He doesn't generate his Chakra from within, but is rather able to absorb it from outside world. Similar how Naruto collects Nature Energy. I'm too lazy and too tired to give any scans, but I believe that you've seen how Kyuubi is holding his hands/paws when he's regenerating his Chakra. (Same hand position like Naruto's when he collects Nature Energy).

Coincidence? Hell no.

 

[FearxDeath]

Alright. You made a point there.
But you see, I'm a retarded person and explain to me this please.

How does Kyuubi produce/restore/collect/generate his Chakra if he needs both Yin and Yang to do it just like any other "human"?

Well, if it's Chakra that Kyuubi produces/restores/collects/generates then he must have both Yin and Yang. But he doesn't.

What I'm saying is that everybody may refer to it as "Kyuubi's Chakra" but in reality it's Natural Chakra that he has. Basically. He doesn't generate his Chakra from within, but is rather able to absorb it from outside world. Similar how Naruto collects Nature Energy. I'm too lazy and too tired to give any scans, but I believe that you've seen how Kyuubi is holding his hands/paws when he's regenerating his Chakra. (Same hand position like Naruto's when he collects Nature Energy).

Coincidence? Hell no.

1) He does it the same way Humans do it...

2) He does

3) Do you have a scan to prove that? Because for some strange reason you saying that everyone in the scans are lying doesnt persuade me...

4) Hand seals are for controlling chakra

 

[aMgDrew]

1) He does it the same way Humans do it...

2) He does

3) Do you have a scan to prove that? Because for some strange reason you saying that everyone in the scans are lying doesnt persuade me...

4) Hand seals are for controlling chakra

Wow. I thought that Kurama's Yin and Yang are separated. But you proved me otherwise.

Alright.

 

[lion fang master]

...And the reason is simple. Let me state the facts:

- Chakra can be produced when the user makes balance between Spiritual and Physical Energy.

- Senjutsu users can use Senjutsu skills when they merge Spiritual, Physical and Natural Energy.

- Naruto is able to enter Sage Mode in his normal state, he uses his own Spiritual, Physical and surroundings Natural Energy.

BUT...

Yin: Spiritual Energy
Yang: Phyisical Energy

Naruto has the Yang part of Kurama only! That's the reason Naruto can't enter Sage Mode in his Kurama Chakra Mode!

He won't be able to balance Yin with Yang since when KCM is active, his Yang levels grows too high compared with his current Yin levels.

The only way for Naruto to be able to use KCM and Sage Mode at same time is with Yin Kurama. So, I'm expecting that the next powerup for Naruto is the Yin half of Kurama.

Minato, hurry up!

first of all kurama is not a spirit, he is piece of juubis chakra with a personality given by so6p, 2. naruto is the king of chakra no jutsu with the ability to reform, shape, combine, balance and manipulate it so when it comes to sage mode and kyuubi mode is would be a piece of cake. As for all this yin/yang thing we all can see it's going to happen, both ninjas seals are opposite liken2 sides bout lock in + if u all notice naruto's kurama never attacked with it's own power the only thing we have seen it do is heal + boost ppl power maybe this is his attack mode lays in yin kurama.
And as for SKM that's the most easiest naruto is mr. combination of jutsu or chakra or both.

 

[Mr Hiru]

first of all kurama is not a spirit, he is piece of juubis chakra with a personality given by so6p, 2. naruto is the king of chakra no jutsu with the ability to reform, shape, combine, balance and manipulate it so when it comes to sage mode and kyuubi mode is would be a piece of cake. As for all this yin/yang thing we all can see it's going to happen, both ninjas seals are opposite liken2 sides bout lock in + if u all notice naruto's kurama never attacked with it's own power the only thing we have seen it do is heal + boost ppl power maybe this is his attack mode lays in yin kurama.
And as for SKM that's the most easiest naruto is mr. combination of jutsu or chakra or both.

I made a theory where I state that these creatures were treated as demon spirits, and even the manga states this in its first chapters, but that's not the point in here.

As for your last statement, you totally missed the point of the needed factors to enter Sage Mode.

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You need the internal balance to achieve Sage Mode. Naruto was able to reach it without his KCM because Kurama's Yang Energies were not active. If Naruto activates KCM, he won't have enough Yin Energy to reach Sage Mode.

 

[Ovan]

It could work.