Kurama PowerUp

[SZiaee]

Damn good episode if someone's asking me. I enjoyed it a lot.

You are right again ( congratulation ) .... This filler was probably the best filler after Kushina's fillers and Obito's fillers ...

 

[SZiaee]

Yes it is.
You are in denial, so be it.

Ok prove this sentence if you can (Manga - Shippuden - Data book) : "Some one with better chakra control and less chakra >>>> himself with more chakra and weaker chakra control"

 

[Nick01]

We don't know that Naruto could aim well or not ....
Sasuke could aim well because of 3 tomoe sharingan ....
Now that Naruto aims well is because of Sage mode ....
So you probably are not right .

Uh no. I'm more right than not.
Sasuke made a remark about Naruto not being able to lay a single scratch on his forehead, so in the final clash he proved him wrong by scratching his headband. Naruto wasn't trying to kill Sasuke, otherwise he'd hit a different part of his body.
With SM now, his aim is drastically better.

 

[SZiaee]

Uh no. I'm more right than not.
Sasuke made a remark about Naruto not being able to lay a single scratch on his forehead, so in the final clash he proved him wrong by scratching his headband. Naruto wasn't trying to kill Sasuke, otherwise he'd hit a different part of his body.
With SM now, his aim is drastically better.

You are completely right bro ... But still your point (saying "Naruto could kill Sasuke whenever he wanted") isn't right (remember them at academy) .

 

[Namar]

You are completely right bro ... But still your point (saying "Naruto could kill Sasuke whenever he wanted") isn't right (remember them at academy) .

Naruto can still kill Sasuke any time he wants.

 

[SZiaee]

Naruto can still kill Sasuke any time he wants.

No ; Adult Sasuke is faster than Naruto on his foots ( Look at my signature ) ... I agree that in their last battle ; Naruto was faster and his reflexes were better ... But not now ... So it would be like this : Sasuke using Amenotejikara and then uses chidori and solos ... {@bold : Just Joking}
That's joking because Sasuke can't kill him ; because Naruto can heal himself and none of Sasuke's techs would work on Naruto ... But if Sasuke has the chance to use all biju once again , then he'll use Indra's arrow + Amenotejikara and kill Naruto ....( Which would never happen ; because Kawaki already did it )

 

[Namar]

No ; Adult Sasuke is faster than Naruto on his foots ( Look at my signature ) ... I agree that in their last battle ; Naruto was faster and his reflexes were better ... But not now ... So it would be like this : Sasuke using Amenotejikara and then uses chidori and solos ... {@bold : Just Joking}
That's joking because Sasuke can't kill him ; because Naruto can heal himself and none of Sasuke's techs would work on Naruto ... But if Sasuke has the chance to use all biju once again , then he'll use Indra's arrow + Amenotejikara and kill Naruto ....( Which would never happen ; because Kawaki already did it )

I tell you.. Sarada killed them all. She's the new villain and Boruto loves her. Boruto attaches to Sarada like Naruto attached to Sasuke. Oh boy.. There we go again... Another 24 years of This character chasing this character because <3

 

[davidou]

Ok prove this sentence if you can (Manga - Shippuden - Data book) : "Some one with better chakra control and less chakra >>>> himself with more chakra and weaker chakra control"

Why would he have less chakra?
The prophecy doesn't agree with that.
You may have to reread my first post.

Someone with improved chakra control is stronger than his unimproved version of himself, obviously.
So Naruto would be stronger...

 

[SZiaee]

I tell you.. Sarada killed them all. She's the new villain and Boruto loves her. Boruto attaches to Sarada like Naruto attached to Sasuke. Oh boy.. There we go again... Another 24 years of This character chasing this character because <3

, That would be a good idea but I like this one :
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About the future of the Boruto , I like this theory (I felt you would like it too) :
_-_ :I do not believe that Orochimaru really becomes a good kid and don't do bad things ...
_-_ : Orochimaru used Toneri's genes to create Mitsuki (Artificial Otsutsuki ; like how he created Shin): Looking at Mitsuki , resembles me of Toneri ..... (Oro traveled to moon and stealed some of his genes ... WHY ? Because he must be Kaguya(Hamura (Toneri) + Hagoromo(Sarada + Boruto)) to reach his dream )
_-_ : Orochimaru is the villain and he's trying to steal Boruto and Sarada ; he isn't capable of doing this now (Because Naruto and Sasuke would one-shot him) ...
_-_ : Orochimaru strengthens his CM (what we saw on Kawaki's hands , I think was Oro's new CM)
_-_ : Orochimaru wants to take Mitsuki's body (when he is strong enough) and then attacks Boruto and Sarada and steal their body .
_-_ :Boruto understands Oro's plan and saves Mitsuki .
_-_ : Orochimaru sends one of his apprentices (Kawaki) to take Mitsuki back . (because he himself can't fight well ; because his body is at bad condition)
_-_ :Mitsuki hides and Kawaki kills Naruto and most of the people of the leaf and Boruto arrives .
_-_ :Boruto somehow managed to take Oro's new CM and is able to control it .
_-_ :Boruto awakened the Byakugan and got access to Mitsuki's genes ; So he'll awaken Tenseigan .
_-_ :Sarada will awaken rinnegan (getting DNA and Chakra from his father)
_-_ :Sarada will learn Sage Mode . And was learning Sage Mode when Kawaki attacked the village .
_-_ : Orochimaru would become stronger than Kaguya but loses against Team 7 (Mitsuki + Boruto + Sarada)
_-_ :Sarada and Boruto marry and their child : his face would be like Minato , he would be cool like Itachi .... And would be the first one to have Rinnegan + Tenseigan ...
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These were the best rumor I heared about the Boruto Manga . And there are many other rumors ... But I liked this one ; because I really can't believe Orochimaru is a good person now ...

 

[SZiaee]

Why would he have less chakra?
The prophecy doesn't agree with that.
You may have to reread my first post.

Someone with improved chakra control his stronger than his unimproved version of himself, obviously.
So Naruto would be stronger...

He'll have less chakra because he doesn't have Kurama now .... If you are giving Kurama to him after he became strong , You are truly making him a god .... It's like giving Kurama to Sasuke and you see him being stronger than anyone .
I'll agree with you about prophecy , but then again you can't prove that he will be stronger than he is now (Perhaps he becomes equal )
@Bold : agreed , obviously ... But this sentence "Some one with improved chakra control but less chakra is stronger than his unimproved version but with more chakra " isn't obviously true ....
It seems like this example about batteries :
1- I have two smart phones ; one with 1000 mAh battery , and has smart control that lessens electricity usage . And the other one has 3500 mAh battery , but uses a lot of electricity .....
2- In one day ; I start using these two phones equally .... Which phone do you think will lose all of it's energy first ?????
The truth is : WE DON'T KNOW .... Maybe the first one or the second one or even equally .... Depends on how much energy it possess (Chakra) and how it controls it (Chakra control) .
We can't really prove any thing about "how strong would Naruto be if he didn't have Kurama"
Your opinion about prophecy , isn't limited to Naruto .... Sasuke was the other child of prophecy ..... So by your logic , if he didn't use Itachi's eyes , he would become strong like he is now .... Or even stronger if going by your logic .

 

[Namar]

, That would be a good idea but I like this one :
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About the future of the Boruto , I like this theory (I felt you would like it too) :
_-_ :I do not believe that Orochimaru really becomes a good kid and don't do bad things ...
_-_ : Orochimaru used Toneri's genes to create Mitsuki (Artificial Otsutsuki ; like how he created Shin): Looking at Mitsuki , resembles me of Toneri ..... (Oro traveled to moon and stealed some of his genes ... WHY ? Because he must be Kaguya(Hamura (Toneri) + Hagoromo(Sarada + Boruto)) to reach his dream )
_-_ : Orochimaru is the villain and he's trying to steal Boruto and Sarada ; he isn't capable of doing this now (Because Naruto and Sasuke would one-shot him) ...
_-_ : Orochimaru strengthens his CM (what we saw on Kawaki's hands , I think was Oro's new CM)
_-_ : Orochimaru wants to take Mitsuki's body (when he is strong enough) and then attacks Boruto and Sarada and steal their body .
_-_ :Boruto understands Oro's plan and saves Mitsuki .
_-_ : Orochimaru sends one of his apprentices (Kawaki) to take Mitsuki back . (because he himself can't fight well ; because his body is at bad condition)
_-_ :Mitsuki hides and Kawaki kills Naruto and most of the people of the leaf and Boruto arrives .
_-_ :Boruto somehow managed to take Oro's new CM and is able to control it .
_-_ :Boruto awakened the Byakugan and got access to Mitsuki's genes ; So he'll awaken Tenseigan .
_-_ :Sarada will awaken rinnegan (getting DNA and Chakra from his father)
_-_ :Sarada will learn Sage Mode . And was learning Sage Mode when Kawaki attacked the village .
_-_ : Orochimaru would become stronger than Kaguya but loses against Team 7 (Mitsuki + Boruto + Sarada)
_-_ :Sarada and Boruto marry and their child : his face would be like Minato , he would be cool like Itachi .... And would be the first one to have Rinnegan + Tenseigan ...
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These were the best rumor I heared about the Boruto Manga . And there are many other rumors ... But I liked this one ; because I really can't believe Orochimaru is a good person now ...

Llele Sounds like Orochimaru is the master evil guy :x3:

 

[davidou]

He'll have less chakra because he doesn't have Kurama now .... If you are giving Kurama to him after he became strong , You are truly making him a god .... It's like giving Kurama to Sasuke and you see him being stronger than anyone .
I'll agree with you about prophecy , but then again you can't prove that he will be stronger than he is now (Perhaps he becomes equal )
@Bold : agreed , obviously ... But this sentence "Some one with improved chakra control but less chakra is stronger than his unimproved version but with more chakra " isn't obviously true ....
It seems like this example about batteries :
1- I have two smart phones ; one with 1000 mAh battery , and has smart control that lessens electricity usage . And the other one has 3500 mAh battery , but uses a lot of electricity .....
2- In one day ; I start using these two phones equally .... Which phone do you think will lose all of it's energy first ?????
The truth is : WE DON'T KNOW .... Maybe the first one or the second one or even equally .... Depends on how much energy it possess (Chakra) and how it controls it (Chakra control) .
We can't really prove any thing about "how strong would Naruto be if he didn't have Kurama"
Your opinion about prophecy , isn't limited to Naruto .... Sasuke was the other child of prophecy ..... So by your logic , if he didn't use Itachi's eyes , he would become strong like he is now .... Or even stronger if going by your logic .

You want proofs and you claim things that never were mentionned in the manga (Sasuke being another child of the prophecy).You seem to be very disordered.

The fact is that Naruto would have as much chakra as he has now.
If you agree with the prophecy (you can't disagree), you agree that Naruto will become friend with the 9 beasts, just like he is now.
If you improve his chakra control, he would have as much chakra as he has now, plus better chakra control, making him stronger.

Demonstration done.You still can deny it claiming absurdities.

 

[SZiaee]

You want proofs and you claim things that never were mentionned in the manga (Sasuke being another child of the prophecy).You seem to be very disordered.

The fact is that Naruto would have as much chakra as he has now.
If you agree with the prophecy (you can't disagree), you agree that Naruto will become friend with the 9 beasts, just like he is now.
If you improve his chakra control, he would have as much chakra as he has now, plus better chakra control, making him stronger.

Demonstration done.You still can deny it claiming absurdities.

Sasuke is the other child of prophecy :

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I agree with you that Naruto will be friend with the beasts BUT that won't teach him Senjutsu ... (And there's no proof that he'll learn SM if he doesn't have Kurama)

 

[nefraiko]

I humbly tend to disagree with this because if Naruto did not have Kurama's hate in the early stages of the Pein fight he could have used Ma and Pa and finish off Pein and never get in the state of being captured.

He would've done this right before he landed on Konoha in mid air and Pein wouldn't have known what even hit him.

hell if naruto didn't have kurama he would be a top genius with his dady's gene in his ashura's body. he would have learned sage mode at 10 and by the time he fight's pain he would be able to control all elements and seals

 

[nagasan]

People it's rude to say that Naruto without Kurama is nothing because we all know Naruto owns with Sage Modo.

Ok, so let's see.

Sasuke =
1. Sharingan
2. Orochimaru Curse
3. Itachi's eyes.
4. Hashirama cells
5. Hagoromo powerup - Rinnegan

Naruto =
1. Chakra Reserves
2. Kurama
3. Sage Modo
4. Bijuus
5. Hogoromo powerup - Rikuudo Modo.

Let's analyze this.

Sasuke =
1. Sharingan made him exceptional.
2. 2 tomoe sharingan vs kyubi cloak = plot buff.
3. 2 tomoe sharingan + Orochimaru curse = more buff
4. Sasuke goes blind.
5. Sasuke takes Itachi's eyes + Itachi's powers to avoid getting blind = more powerups
6. Sasuke gets Hashirama cells to be capable of absorbing some Senju chakra = Huge powerup....
7. Rinnegan from Hagoromo plus some more chakra.

Naruto =
1. Chakra reserves made him exceptional.
2. Kurama nerfed Naruto early on so much that he could not pass his academy tests or even walk on water.. That much.
3. Kyubi cloak weaker than a 2 tomoe sharigan ? = Come on clearly nerf be honest with yourselfs.
4. Sage Modo learned all by himself. Leave Naruto without any bijuu or Hagoromo buff and Sasuke without any buffs has no power against him.
5. Naruto Got the 9 biijuu powerup = more powerups
6. Naruto got Hagoromo Powerup = Huge powerup.
7. Ability to heal, fly, truth seeking orbs, etc.



Not to mention that 2 tomoe sharingan + Orochimaru curse + chidori vs Kyubi cloak (not full potential because of Kurama hate which nerfed Naruto) + Rasengan... Yea... That smells like huge powerups for Sasuke in order to defeat part 1 Naruto.

Not to mention that Naruto with only what he learned still defeats a Sasuke that has only what he learned. (Sage mode vs what ?)

Naruto #2 is wrong Orochimaru put a 5 sign chakra seal on naruto, Master Jiraiya talked about it when he was training naruto he noticed naruto had to muster more chakra then what he usually needed for a shadow clone, he saw orochimarus scheme and fixed it by removing it. When that happened he was able to walk on water

 

[nagasan]

5 Kage
Hashirama
Tobirama
Pain
Madara
Naruto
Kakashi
Bee
12:1 sasuke loses

 

[davidou]

Sasuke is the other child of prophecy :

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I agree with you that Naruto will be friend with the beasts BUT that won't teach him Senjutsu ... (And there's no proof that he'll learn SM if he doesn't have Kurama)

Wikia isn't the manga, didn't read.
You have to prove that he wouldn't have senjutsu to counter my point, not the opposite.

 

[SZiaee]

Wikia isn't the manga, didn't read.
You have to prove that he wouldn't have senjutsu to counter my point, not the opposite.

Ok , let's say Sasuke isn't child of Prophecy ... You know that Sasuke is Indra's reincarnation ... And he will become strong somehow (Same goes for Naruto).
Enough already ; You can't prove , I can't prove . Neither me nor you can see future of the manga in another condition ... The fact is that :"If Naruto wasn't given his gifted powers , both Naruto and Sasuke were dead at that bridge" ....... Please believe it .

 

[super michael]

Ok , let's say Sasuke isn't child of Prophecy ... You know that Sasuke is Indra's reincarnation ... And he will become strong somehow (Same goes for Naruto).
Enough already ; You can't prove , I can't prove . Neither me nor you can see future of the manga in another condition ... The fact is that :"If Naruto wasn't given his gifted powers , both Naruto and Sasuke were dead at that bridge" ....... Please believe it .

Sasuke had to get hit on purpose due to Naruto being unable to move, which would of killed Naruto.

Sasuke was improving as his battle with Haku progressed, had Naruto not being there then Sasuke would not need to get hit on purpose.

 

[davidou]

Ok , let's say Sasuke isn't child of Prophecy ... You know that Sasuke is Indra's reincarnation ... And he will become strong somehow (Same goes for Naruto).
Enough already ; You can't prove , I can't prove . Neither me nor you can see future of the manga in another condition ... The fact is that :"If Naruto wasn't given his gifted powers , both Naruto and Sasuke were dead at that bridge" ....... Please believe it .

Unlike you, I brought you a demonstration, you just deny it without reasonning.