Kurama Chakra Shikamaru and Ay vs. Gai and Kakashi

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Everyone is war arc (Ay has both hands though).

Field: Kakashi and Guy vs Rinnegan Obito

Restrictions: 8th Gate
 

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Kamui gg Shikamaru (why is he here lol...)

Gai should be able to beat Ay.
 

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Gai potentially solos if he starts in 7th Gate.

Regardless, team 2 win.
 

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Why you hate poor Shikamaru so much :|
 

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How does he solo?

How does he not?

Starting in 7th Gate means he'll do either do from the get go, for which Shikamaru has no counter to, or just blitz him. After that it becomes Ay vs Gai, where Gai wins, unless you meant that both Shikamaru and Ay have Kurama's Chakra, in which case Ay will win.
 

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How does he not?

Starting in 7th Gate means he'll do either do from the get go, for which Shikamaru has no counter to, or just blitz him. After that it becomes Ay vs Gai, where Gai wins, unless you meant that both Shikamaru and Ay have Kurama's Chakra, in which case Ay will win.

Shikimaru isnt dumb, he knows he cant take down this team alone. Shikmaru, however, is smart enough to know how useful his jutsu is. So similarly put, Shikimaru piggyback Ay the whole fight.
 

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Shika will need prep to be effective and since there seemingly isn't, he'll be able to support Ay until either Gai or Kakashi realize that he's here and quietly take him out, with Gai keepin Ay busy as Kakashi use one of his tricks to defeat Shika.
 

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Gai solos.
Kakashi solos.
 

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Gai solos.
Kakashi solos.

Kakashi has no feats to react to V2 and Shikimaru on Ay's back means the end of a Taijutsu user since shadow possession stops him on contact.

Shika will need prep to be effective and since there seemingly isn't, he'll be able to support Ay until either Gai or Kakashi realize that he's here and quietly take him out, with Gai keepin Ay busy as Kakashi use one of his tricks to defeat Shika.

No he doesn't need prep. He simply jumps on Ay's back and piggyback rides him. Any physical contact with Ay would mean shadow possession freezes Kakashi or Guy, which Ay will kill or body slam to death.
 

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intelligence is only useful in manga... not in VS threads... team two wins it....
 

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intelligence is only useful in manga... not in VS threads... team two wins it....

Whats your point? I never said anything about Shikimaru beating them due to his intelligence.

I swear no one even reads here. Read the arguments or dont come in like you know what your talking about.
 

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Gai and Kakashi win easily
 

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Gai pounds Ay with Hirudora, & Kakashi Rakiri's shikamaru's face off
 

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Whats your point? I never said anything about Shikimaru beating them due to his intelligence.

I swear no one even reads here. Read the arguments or dont come in like you know what your talking about.


lol i was actually trying to appreciate shikamaru...! because i prefer manga over vs threads.... but here in vs threads you cannot use a strategy to beat opponents.. and if you are implying shikamaru even has a chance in any way against the likes of gai or kakashi without any plan then he gets wrecked, doesn't matter if he is on Ay's back because gai in 7th gate can very much keep up with Ay and can arguable beat him. and kakashi ain't there just for show.. he knows about shikamaru's shadow possession. gai can arguably over power shadow possession and can also one hit KO shikamru even on Ay's back because Ay can't dodge gai and make shikamaru dodge as well... he'd be slow infact coz shikamaru is no ohnoki... shikamaru on Ay's back would result in both of them getting KO'd...
 

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Giving Ay full control advantage, since his opponents wont be able to move.

This plan only works if Shikamaru makes contact. Not Ay. Shikamaru's attempts are easily countered, whether it's by Gai in CQC or by Kakashi using a long range Kamui to take this guy (or both) out when Ay is busy fighting Gai. He can't sense Kamui, nor will he feel it until it's too late.

And even if this terrible plan wasn't so terrible and they caught Gai (Never Kakashi considering he has Gai protecting him from Ay's speed) what do they do next? If he tries to body slam Gai, Kamui would warp him away. Kamui would warp Gai away and back to safety the moment he was caught by the shadow. This plan never works. Ever.

Team 2 stomps. Gai plays with Ay in CQC and obliterates with a Hirudora, or he gets into CQC with Ay where Kakashi snipes him while he's not paying any attention.
 

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This plan only works if Shikamaru makes contact. Not Ay. Shikamaru's attempts are easily countered, whether it's by Gai in CQC or by Kakashi using a long range Kamui to take this guy (or both) out when Ay is busy fighting Gai. He can't sense Kamui, nor will he feel it until it's too late.

Um no it would work exactly how it was used in manga via .[ ] Shiki jumps on his back and gives him free control to Ay. Once in contact to another shadow, Shikmaru takes control. Instead of the suggestion of Kakashi to, Ensui adding extra binding, this isn't needed for this match up since Shadow possession powered by Kurama, and Ay's speed and attack doesnt need "time" at all to end it from here.

And even if this terrible plan wasn't so terrible and they caught Gai (Never Kakashi considering he has Gai protecting him from Ay's speed) what do they do next? If he tries to body slam Gai, Kamui would warp him away. Kamui would warp Gai away and back to safety the moment he was caught by the shadow. This plan never works. Ever.

Lol its terrible to you because you dont understand how it works and how broken this combination can be. Your arguments is seeking for an out of character state of mind. Kakashi cannot warps things out of Kamui world so no, he would need to personally go in Kamui world and personally get Gai out. This mindset is not allow in my thread.
 

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Um no it would work exactly how it was used in manga via .[ ] Shiki jumps on his back and gives him free control to Ay. Once in contact to another shadow, Shikmaru takes control. Instead of the suggestion of Kakashi to, Ensui adding extra binding, this isn't needed for this match up since Shadow possession powered by Kurama, and Ay's speed and attack doesnt need "time" at all to end it from here.


That's Shikamaru using his shadow first, and then connecting to Kakashi's Shadow, and then making contact with the foe. Which doesn't work if he's on Ay's back. His shadow won't touch Ay's shadow if he's not on the ground and instead on top of Ay. If he can't connect his shadow to Ay's shadow, then you can forget about this whole backpack nonsense working.

Lol its terrible to you because you dont understand how it works and how broken this combination can be. Your arguments is seeking for an out of character state of mind. Kakashi cannot warps things out of Kamui world so no, he would need to personally go in Kamui world and personally get Gai out. This mindset is not allow in my thread.

Baseless assumption. Warping things in and out and yourself in and out work the same exact way. The rest is irrelevant. Kakashi using Kamui when he needs to isn't out of character. Don't make excuses to nullify arguments that would end Ay and his partner's life.

If Gai is caught, then Kamui warps the opponent away once Ay is still. That simple.
 
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