Kuma and Law vs KM Minato and EMS Sasuke

[Misconception]

Location- Current in Naruto Manga

Distance- 400Ft

Mindset- Kill

Just in case some people don't watch One Piece ill tell you Kuma and Law abilities...

Bartholomew Kuma- He has the Paw Paw fruit which allows him to repel matter and physical attacks, such as creating air pressure blasts and shockwaves, or sending opponents across the world with a touch, he can also use this power to move himself rapidly, which appears to other characters to be akin to teleportation, can also repel abstract things such as "pain" from someone...

Trafalgar Law- He has the Operation Operation fruit which allows the user to manipulate anything within a specific area,
it's very fast aswell able to cover atleast 200ft in a matter of secs...

 

[Bogard]

Kuma and Law will win. Law's abilities are too hax that without knowledge on it, it's very difficult to fight against him

 

[Misconception]

Kuma and Law will win. Law's abilities are too hax that without knowledge on it, it's very difficult to fight against him

Yea i was thinking Kuma and Law can take them aswell... I just wanted to see some logical arguments...

 

[BlackFlame44]

Can monatomic use KM? If so he solos

 

[Champ]

One piece characters seem pretty strong, mine giving me a chapter where they used all their skills at once

 

[Icelerate]

Kuma and Law will win. Law's abilities are too hax that without knowledge on it, it's very difficult to fight against him

I diagree. I've caught up to One Piece so I know Kuma and Law very well. Those two are amongst my favourite characters in One Piece but I'm not sure why you'd give this victory to them. I'm surprised you didn't say Minato solos.

Oh BTW, that logic works against Law and Kuma as well. Fighting against Sasuke or Minato, let alone together, is quite difficult.

One piece characters seem pretty strong, mine giving me a chapter where they used all their skills at once

I disagree. Honestly think Juubito solos the OP universe. If not than the Sage does for sure. I don't understand why people consider top tiers in One Piece such as Whitebeard stronger than the top tiers in Naruto such as Madara considering Whitebeard couldn't even destroy the Marine HQ, a mere building whereas Madara mowed down multiple mountains.

Anyway I think Sasuke and Minato win this fight with low-mid difficulty.

A weak and tired Zoro was able to land a hit on Kuma despite his ability to repel attacks and use space time to avoid attacks. Amaterasu and an FTG speed blitz from Minato could work. Kuma's durability is tremendous and he does have the ability to repel the black flames from his body but once Kuma is marked, Minato can teleport all of Sasuke's attacks and it is pretty much over for Kuma.

Minato's clones can keep Law busy and I doubt Law's sword can get through susanoo and it can be evaded via FTG.

 

[Bogard]

I diagree. I've caught up to One Piece so I know Kuma and Law very well. Those two are amongst my favourite characters in One Piece but I'm not sure why you'd give this victory to them. I'm surprised you didn't say Minato solos.

Oh BTW, that logic works against Law and Kuma as well. Fighting against Sasuke or Minato, let alone together, is quite difficult.

Minato is my second favorite character in Naruto only. If we count all manga included, i doubt he even is in my top10.

I'm actually surprised to see you disagreeing if you really caught up

They don't need knowledge on their opponents to win honestly(well maybe Minato's FTG that could be tricky, but that's it)

1- Law's devil fruit ignores durability. For this reason, defenses like Susanoo are useless. He cut down an island like a small fruit

2- Law possess a teleportation ability just like Minato(but more like a swapping ability since he needs to exchange places). Because of this, techniques like Amaterasu are also useless since he could swap everything inside his room including the people inside it(Minato or Sasuke) anytime he wants, so infact his swapping move is even more overpowered than Minato's FTG

3- He can also switch bodies(anyone inside his room) in one move. For example, he could put Minato inside Sasuke and Sasuke inside Minato, that would trouble their team a lot since it will take time for them to adapt

And i only counted Law's ability here. Now adding Kuma's repulsive ability(capable to repel anything including himself)

 

[Icelerate]

Minato is my second favorite character in Naruto only. If we count all manga included, i doubt he even is in my top10.

I'm actually surprised to see you disagreeing if you really caught up

They don't need knowledge on their opponents to win honestly(well maybe Minato's FTG that could be tricky, but that's it)

1- Law's devil fruit ignores durability. For this reason, defenses like Susanoo are useless. He cut down an island like a small fruit

2- Law possess a teleportation ability just like Minato(but more like a swapping ability since he needs to exchange places). Because of this, techniques like Amaterasu are also useless since he could swap everything inside his room including the people inside it(Minato or Sasuke) anytime he wants, so infact his swapping move is even more overpowered than Minato's FTG

3- He can also switch bodies(anyone inside his room) in one move. For example, he could put Minato inside Sasuke and Sasuke inside Minato, that would trouble their team a lot since it will take time for them to adapt

And i only counted Law's ability here. Now adding Kuma's repulsive ability(capable to repel anything including himself)

By catching up, I admit I don't know the abilities as well as I do with Naruto characters since I haven't spent over a year browsing One Piece VS threads as I have done with Naruto.

Didn't Caesar say that Luffy is probably stronger than Law? If Law was this haxed, he would stomp Luffy.

Also you say that Law can swap other people in a room but this is in an open field with the starting distance too great for Law to do this.

Anyway if Law's DF really ignores durability than Minato can port the attack back at Kuma who won't tank it with his durability for the reasons stated above.

Oh wait, I forgot about observation Haki, amaterasu is close to useless....

Well Minato can gain knowledge on their abilities by testing them with shadow clones. Due to the fact that when shadow clones disperse, all that knowledge goes back to the user and with Minato's intellect, he'll figure out their abilities in no time.

Kuma's offence is no threat to either Sasuke or Minato for obvious reasons but we haven't seen his full powers so maybe I shouldn't come to this conclusion.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

.-. Law solos
Even amatratsu won't work in law room he controls everything law would shambles so they can't use each other abities ...

 

[Bogard]

By catching up, I admit I don't know the abilities as well as I do with Naruto characters since I haven't spent over a year browsing One Piece VS threads as I have done with Naruto.

Didn't Caesar say that Luffy is probably stronger than Law? If Law was this haxed, he would stomp Luffy.

Also you say that Law can swap other people in a room but this is in an open field with the starting distance too great for Law to do this.

Anyway if Law's DF really ignores durability than Minato can port the attack back at Kuma who won't tank it with his durability for the reasons stated above.

Oh wait, I forgot about observation Haki, amaterasu is close to useless....

Well Minato can gain knowledge on their abilities by testing them with shadow clones. Due to the fact that when shadow clones disperse, all that knowledge goes back to the user and with Minato's intellect, he'll figure out their abilities in no time.

Kuma's offence is no threat to either Sasuke or Minato for obvious reasons but we haven't seen his full powers so maybe I shouldn't come to this conclusion.

It's not Caesar who said it. It's Doflamingo and it was only a supposition, but he underestimated Law's growth, so we can't tell. A battle against Luffy would depend on Luffy's level of COA(color of armament) i think. If it's strong enough, i believe he can counter Law's cuting ability with it

Law's "weakness" if we can tell it like it is close range combat, because he is a long range fighter, cuting things from a long distance. So you would have greater success in pressuring him in close range in order to block his cuting ability, but for that you also need to have great level of COA

But it's true that through the use of clones, Minato may gain knowledge on their abilities, so it would depend if he doesn't get defeated before he proceeds this way. If it works like it, then yes they have a chance. Problem is that Law's abilities are really difficult to notice before he puts them into application and it may already be too late by then

I didn't talk about observation Haki because i'm not sure if either Kuma or Law possess them. Manga didn't expand on it concerning these characters, and even if they had we don't know their level of control, so i don't consider it as a valuable asset in this thread

How is Kuma's offense not a threat? Did you see the range of his Ursus shock? It covered an entire island(after the battle against Moria). Sasuke could probably tank it though with Perfect Susanoo and Minato maybe teleport out of the way, but Law is there and inside his room, he could swap their places. A combo attack with Kuma could work

 

[Icelerate]

It's not Caesar who said it. It's Doflamingo and it was only a supposition, but he underestimated Law's growth, so we can't tell. A battle against Luffy would depend on Luffy's level of COA i think. If it's strong enough, i believe he can counter Law's cuting ability with it

Is COA, armament Haki?

Law's "weakness" if we can tell it like it is close range combat, because he is a long range fighter, cuting things from a long distance. So you would have greater success in pressuring him in close range in order to block his cuting ability, but for that you also need to have great level of COA

Well I thought Law's weakness is anyone with powerful long range attacks that can keep their distance and stand outside the circle where Law uses Shambles. Well these OP characters must be pretty OP if they really need Haki to beat them since no Naruto characters possess Haki.

But it's true that through the use of clones, Minato may gain knowledge on their abilities, so it would depend if he doesn't get defeated before he proceeds this way. If it works like it, then yes they have a chance. Problem is that Law's abilities are really difficult to notice before he puts them into application and it may already be too late by then

Can't Minato teleport Law's attack or is it more of a curse effect, similar to Hidan's ritual?

I didn't talk about observation Haki because i'm not sure if either Kuma or Law possess them. Manga didn't expand on it concerning these characters, and even if they had we don't know their level of control, so i don't consider it as a valuable asset in this thread

It was stated that Zoro, Luffy and Sanji had Haki when Law asked Luffy, that bring all your Haki using crew members to fight Caesar. So all four of them have armament Haki but Luffy and Sanji have some overvational Haki feats. I felt Law is a more experienced fighter so he'll have observational Haki as well since it seems like a basic ability nowadays in the manga for a mid tier character to have.

How is Kuma's offense not a threat? Did you see the range of his Ursus shock? It covered an entire island(after the battle against Moria). Sasuke could probably tank it though with Perfect Susanoo and Minato maybe teleport out of the way, but Law is there and inside his room, he could swap their places. A combo attack with Kuma could work

Kuma's ursus shock couldn't kill Zoro and the crew IIRC or was that a different move? Minato's Kyubbi cloak could allow him to survive such an attack or he could utilize a space-time barrier.

 

[Bogard]

Is COA, armament Haki?

I edited and yes it's armament haki. To be more precise it's color of armament(COA). Other abbreviations you can find is

- COO(color of observation or observation haki)
- COC(color of conqueror or conqueror haki)

Well I thought Law's weakness is anyone with powerful long range attacks that can keep their distance and stand outside the circle where Law uses Shambles. Well these OP characters must be pretty OP if they really need Haki to beat them since no Naruto characters possess Haki.

This too is another possibility. I only mentioned the other one because rare are the people capable to fight Law from that distance. His room covered entire green bit

Can't Minato teleport Law's attack or is it more of a curse effect, similar to Hidan's ritual?

I don't think he can since his cuting ability is invisible(at least the way we see it in the manga)

It was stated that Zoro, Luffy and Sanji had Haki when Law asked Luffy, that bring all your Haki using crew members to fight Caesar. So all four of them have armament Haki but Luffy and Sanji have some overvational Haki feats. I felt Law is a more experienced fighter so he'll have observational Haki as well since it seems like a basic ability nowadays in the manga for a mid tier character to have.

They were talking about a way to combat Caesar's logia ability and only the COA(armament haki) allows you to attack a logia, so all what it proves is that Law has COA, but we don't know if he has COO even if it's highly possible since Zoro, Luffy and Sanji have shown it already. Only that there is no proof concerning Law

Kuma's ursus shock couldn't kill Zoro and the crew IIRC or was that a different move? Minato's Kyubbi cloak could allow him to survive such an attack or he could utilize a space-time barrier.

Ah totally forgot it was KM Minato, you're right he would tank it

 

[Unorthodox]

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