Kotoamatsukami

[Chīkara]

I still dont understand 1 thing in the (うちはシスイ, Uchiha Shisui) case.
His approbation for his Mangekyō Sharingan it was almost considered a boon.
but still'' He told Itachi that he had tried to use Kotoamatsukami on Danzō Shimura to stop his plans, but he stole Shisui's right eye, adamant on protecting the village his own way'' such a statement makes me discombobulated
considering the fact that It allows the user to enter their opponent's mind and manipulate them by giving them false experiences, making it seem as if they were doing things of their own free will. It is regarded as a genjutsu of the highest class due to the victim being entirely unaware that they are being manipulated.

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Why would a man with such immense power fear Danzō Shimura,

Was this planned by Uchiha Shisui or ''Plot-no-jutsu'' ?​

 

[xcoyote]

Danzo stomped the fodder,no big deal.

 

[Sir Blades]

Because Danzo was more skilled as a ninja, shisui was still pretty young. I guess the ranking of Danzo was kind of intimidating.

 

[Chīkara]

Because Danzo was more skilled as a ninja, shisui was still pretty young. I guess the ranking of Danzo was kind of intimidating.

'' a genjutsu of the highest class due to the victim being entirely unaware that they are being manipulated.''
how can such a jutsu fail ?​

 

[-R-]

Danzo stomped the fodder,no big deal.

Well you're a Danzo fanboy, so your words are meaningless because you defend your fav character U_U

OT: Danzo is super strong. But he was shown as a pest. He could've fodderized Sasuke in their battle, but he wanted to save chakra. He pushed Sasuke to his max power with saving chakra and not exhausting himself U_U

 

[AllomnisymbolsparttwoT]

Because danzo had Orochimaru, a sneaky bastard who had senju dna in his possession plus danzo was trained by Tobirama himself and likely by Hashirama as well,

 

[Sir Blades]

'' a genjutsu of the highest class due to the victim being entirely unaware that they are being manipulated.''
how can such a jutsu fail ?​

No matter how strong the jutsu, if the ninja lacks the conviction to go against something bigger than himself, the jutsu will mean nothing.

 

[Chīkara]

Well you're a Danzo fanboy, so your words are meaningless because you defend your fav character U_U

OT: Danzo is super strong. But he was shown as a pest. He could've fodderized Sasuke in their battle, but he wanted to save chakra. He pushed Sasuke to his max power with saving chakra and not exhausting himself U_U

Firmly disagree.

No he is not super strong. The Danzo from back then was without all his sharingan and senju spam.
And he was only saving KA for Obito to use the Genjutsu on him, and even if what you say was true,
why didn't he use all his power when he knew he was losing, if i was in his position I would atleast kill
1 villain to ''save'' my village​

 

[Mellanoma]

MORE than likely Danzo had a sensor with him that detected that shishu was using his Eye. Danzo ALWAYS had a sensor as a body guard

 

[AllomnisymbolsparttwoT]

Firmly disagree.

No he is not super strong. The Danzo from back then was without all his sharingan and senju spam.
And he was only saving KA for Obito to use the Genjutsu on him, and even if what you say was true,
why didn't he use all his power when he knew he was losing, if i was in his position I would atleast kill
1 villain to ''save'' my village​

talking about position, how are you typing posts on Narutobase in the battlefield??? :I you should seal Madara or something by now

 

[0jordinio0]

Firmly disagree.

No he is not super strong. The Danzo from back then was without all his sharingan and senju spam.
And he was only saving KA for Obito to use the Genjutsu on him, and even if what you say was true,
why didn't he use all his power when he knew he was losing, if i was in his position I would atleast kill
1 villain to ''save'' my village​

You forget though. Danzo was already a Kage-level ninja. When he got the Mokuton arm and the Sharingan he had to re-work his entire fighting style. In the end, he began to rely on the Sharingan and Izanagi and allowed his skills to drop.

 

[avenged sevenfold]

Danzo was an elder of the village and held a highly respectable position and a fair amount of sway in what is being done within the village, if anyone was ever too find out that shisui ever manipulated him in such a way then not only will shisui be ostracized for it but the entire uchiha clan which would have increased their conviction against the village and would've increased their motivation for a coup d'etat and plunge the world into another world war. Not too mention the fact that danzo was still an extremely powerful shinobi at the time (he was still actually a powerful shinobi until his death).

 

[foxyladyland]

its a mystery and I love Shisui

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but this is what I think happened.

SHISUI was planning on KA Sarutobi or Danzo because TOBI told him to.
Im thinking SHISUI was targeting the Shinobi with the most power in the village.
He targeted Yagura and used KA on then AO broke Yagura out of KA.

WHY did he target Yagura? Because Danzo or TOBI told him to do so. He was the Mizukage.
I bet he targets Hokage and Mizukage.

If SHISUI says Danzo didn't trust him and that he was going to stop the Leaf in his own way. It doesn't add up sort of.
Plus SHISUI had lots of bruises on his face. (NOT A BIG DEAL though)

If SHISUi was going to stop the Uchiha plot and he thinks Danzo didn't trust him , then why would he think Danzo doesn't trust him if he (SHISUI) is going to stop the REBELLION? He certainly wasn't going to KA them into doing the REBELLION. They weren't planning on stopping it, the Uchiha were planning on continuing with the PLOT.

So SHiSUI would have to be there to use KA on an UCHIHA (POSSIBLY) but he said Danzo doesn't trust him.
Maybe he was planning on using it on TOBI or DANZO or SARUTOBI.

Maybe SHISUI nickname the Teleporter comes from TOBI teleporting him on missions they secretly did together.
SHUNSHIN means teleportation and body flicker. So SHISUI has many nicknames also SHISUI the MIRAGE.
Meaning he isn't what he seems. His whole story is a pretty big mystery.
imo he will be seen again in the story. ^_^

 

[AllomnisymbolsparttwoT]

its a mystery and I love Shisui

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but this is what I think happened.

SHISUI was planning on KA Sarutobi or Danzo because TOBI told him to.
Im thinking SHISUI was targeting the Shinobi with the most power in the village.
He targeted Yagura and used KA on then AO broke Yagura out of KA.

WHY did he target Yagura? Because Danzo or TOBI told him to do so. He was the Mizukage.
I bet he targets Hokage and Mizukage.

If SHISUI says Danzo didn't trust him and that he was going to stop the Leaf in his own way. It doesn't add up sort of.
Plus SHISUI had lots of bruises on his face. (NOT A BIG DEAL though)

If SHISUi was going to stop the Uchiha plot and he thinks Danzo didn't trust him , then why would he think Danzo doesn't trust him if he (SHISUI) is going to stop the REBELLION? He certainly wasn't going to KA them into doing the REBELLION. They weren't planning on stopping it, the Uchiha were planning on continuing with the PLOT.

So SHiSUI would have to be there to use KA on an UCHIHA (POSSIBLY) but he said Danzo doesn't trust him.
Maybe he was planning on using it on TOBI or DANZO or SARUTOBI.

Maybe SHISUI nickname the Teleporter comes from TOBI teleporting him on missions they secretly did together.
SHUNSHIN means teleportation and body flicker. So SHISUI has many nicknames also SHISUI the MIRAGE.
Meaning he isn't what he seems. His whole story is a pretty big mystery.
imo he will be seen again in the story. ^_^

You have a very weird mindset... and I LOVE IT :I

 

[foxyladyland]

You have a very weird mindset... and I LOVE IT :I

thanks I guess

but what im saying is that Kabuto hinted that he could EDO SHISUI and TOBI told him to "STFU"
if KABUTO EDO'd SHISUI it would have to be from the EYE that DANZO crushed in his hand .
if it is SHISUI's EYE DNA, then that means his eyes would be EDO'd along with his body.
That means his SHARINGAN would still be possible to use MS and KA.

and SHISUI most likely worked with DANZO or TOBI in the Mist when he fought AO and KA'd YAGURA.

Maybe Kagami gave SHISUI KA... maybe Kagami and Danzo were absent during the KURAMA attack
because DANZO wanted Kagami's eyes. If they knew KA has a 10 year reactivation time that means someone
had KA before SHISUI did and could only use it every 10 years. WHO WAS IT? Madara or Kagami or Izuna maybe?

IF Kagami was so in love with the Leaf like Tobirama was then why didn't Kagami offer to sacrifice himself for the LEAF?
Kagami said they needed a DECOY to DIE so the others could escape. Instead of himself, he allowed the HOKAGE to DIE.

IF you love the LEAF so much , you would offer yourself up as a decoy maybe like SHIKAMARU did. Asuma saved him. Kagami sort of offered everyone else up though.


: I said that stuff about Kagami because Tobirama/Sarutobi said Kagami/Shisui are both like Itachi. & Itachi kept his actions a secret and portrayed a bad guy. He protected the Leaf in the shadows. He said Shisui is the one who taught him that. That means Shisui was probably secretly working with Tobi or *MADARA* . Tobi talks as if he knew Shisui and Danzo both.

KA forces ppl to do something without them knowing theyre being controlled. Kagami is like SHisui and maybe when he suggested a decoy to sacrifice himself he was influencing Tobirama to do it. Tobirama did say he *admits to hesitating* coming up with a decision. Sarutobi said he was the best and no one disagreed with him so im sure Tobirama would've thought Sarutobi was read to be Hokage at that point, Sarutobi's been his student since an early age and Hashirama's.

I think SHISUI was probably a fan of the Infinite Tsukuyomi plan probably and thought that was a way to achieve peace. So when someone Edo Tensei's SHISUI they will do it to make Shisui stop the Infinite Tsukuyomi plan, then Shisui is gonna reveal that he is actually for Moon Eye plan.

 

[Pirate King]

all plot :l

danzo lost to ms sasuke, shisui would have easily beat him