konohamaru vs sakura

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Sakura mid diff

 

[Legendary Toad Sage]

And did I not say this was anime konohamaru? Dude reread the op.

I'm well aware of the situation. I was specifically responding to your post about Konohamaru against Naruto, which was anime nonsense.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

I'm well aware of the situation. I was specifically responding to your post about Konohamaru against Naruto, which was anime nonsense.

How is it nonsense if we're taking his anime feats into account?
For some reason you think she's beyond getting devices and tricked when konohamaru already tricked s rank ninjas like pain. She's no different.

 

[TheEvilOne]

So he tricked a path who has no combat feats. Ok. Big deal.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

So he tricked a path who has no combat feats. Ok. Big deal.

All the paths are controlled by one mind. They have relatively the same combat feats. Naruto and kakashi employed the same method to trick multiple paths at the same time. Even deva path had to take extra measures to avoid getting tricked..for the third time.

 

[Legendary Toad Sage]

How is it nonsense if we're taking his anime feats into account?
For some reason you think she's beyond getting devices and tricked when konohamaru already tricked s rank ninjas like pain. She's no different.

The entire basis of your argument was about Konohamaru using sexy jutsu trick Sakura (which would fail horribly). Now the basis of your argument is a KB feint? Sakura (having the superior intellect) can just as easily trick Konohamaru. Sakura is a master of evasion; a puny feint won't do jack except get him punched.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

The entire basis of your argument was about Konohamaru using sexy jutsu trick Sakura (which would fail horribly). Now the basis of your argument is a KB feint? Sakura (having the superior intellect) can just as easily trick Konohamaru. Sakura is a master of evasion; a puny feint won't do jack except get him punched.

No my argument was centered around both not one. U chose to focus on one.
And your best argument to counter is"sakura is smart she won't fall for it" even though:
Kakashi
Itachi
Zabuza
Pain
Kisame
Hidan
Deidara
Neji
Etc

Fell for clone feints.
Over half the ppl on that list are much smarter than her but somehow she won't fall for it.

While

Jman
Ebisu
Sakura
Hiruzen
Iruka
(All perverts mind you)

Fell for sexy/harem/girl on girl/boy on boy technique.
Two of the ppl on that list are smarter than her.

So please bring something to the table or stop replying.

 

[Lana Del Taka]

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[BenjerminGaye]

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[Lana Del Taka]

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No, you stop it

 

[BenjerminGaye]

No, you stop it

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[Lana Del Taka]

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[Legendary Toad Sage]

No my argument was centered around both not one. U chose to focus on one.
And your best argument to counter is"sakura is smart she won't fall for it"

My argument is "why in gods name would someone as intelligent as Sakura mindlessly attack a clone specialist without caution?" She WILL be ready for any and all clone feints. Then again the difference in skill and experience here is so phenomenal this isn't necessarily a argument to begin with.

Jman
Ebisu
Sakura
Hiruzen
Iruka
(All perverts mind you)

It stills fails miserably in a REAL COMBAT SITUATION. Not a single person on that list would fall for that in a SERIOUS SITUATION. You still haven't managed to counter this because in a SERIOUS SITUATION, this jutsu is irrelevant. In the pointless list above, everyone who "fell for it" did not have FIGHTING INTENT. I can't convey these words to you anymore clearly than in caps. You still haven't explained why exactly Sakura would let her guard down in order gawk over the random appearance of a third party when directly in the face of danger. Hell this is basic shinobi stuff. . . this is something even in part 1 she learned

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So please bring something to the table or stop replying.

It's been brought. You're responding to certain things and avoiding others.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

My argument is "why in gods name would someone as intelligent as Sakura mindlessly attack a clone specialist without caution?" She WILL be ready for any and all clone feints. Then again the difference in skill and experience here is so phenomenal this isn't necessarily a argument to begin with.


It stills fails miserably in a REAL COMBAT SITUATION. Not a single person on that list would fall for that in a SERIOUS SITUATION. You still haven't managed to counter this because in a SERIOUS SITUATION, this jutsu is irrelevant. In the pointless list above, everyone who "fell for it" did not have FIGHTING INTENT. I can't convey these words to you anymore clearly than in caps. You still haven't explained why exactly Sakura would let her guard down in order gawk over the random appearance of a third party when directly in the face of danger. Hell this is basic shinobi stuff. . . this is something even in part 1 she learned

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It's been brought. You're responding to certain things and avoiding others.

I'm quite sure everyone I've listed were expecting clone feints when they got tricked by it. Hell kakashi is known for it world wide yet he pulls them on s rank nin like it's nothing. The skill and age gap between konohamaru and pain, naruto and pain, and to a lesser extent kakashi and pain is also phenomenal yet pain got tricked by all three of them(the latter two of the three multiple times(so much that its not even funny)) all in the same day. Again you've failed to bring anything new its still the" she's smart so it won't work argument" so this is my last reply to you.

Good day sir.

 

[Legendary Toad Sage]

I'm quite sure everyone I've listed were expecting clone feints when they got tricked by it. Hell kakashi is known for it world wide yet he pulls them on s rank nin like it's nothing. The skill and age gap between konohamaru and pain, naruto and pain, and to a lesser extent kakashi and pain is also phenomenal yet pain got tricked by all three of them(the latter two of the three multiple times(so much that its not even funny)) all in the same day. Again you've failed to bring anything new its still the" she's smart so it won't work argument" so this is my last reply to you.

Good day sir.

Once again, you misread or outright neglected every single word in my post and countered nothing. . . It doesn't really surprise me though.

Good day to you as well.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Once again, you misread or outright neglected every single word in my post and countered nothing. . . It doesn't really surprise me though.

Good day to you as well.

This is what you said and is the only thing of relevance in your post:
"why in gods name would someone as intelligent as Sakura mindlessly attack a clone specialist without caution?" She WILL be ready for any and all clone feints. "

All it means is (like I already called you on) "she's smart so she won't fall for it"

I've shown you examples of smarter people falling for both techs and not only did you only attempt to counter one(completely deleting the other ) your counter isn't really a counter. More like a statement backed by nothing since she already fell for it.
Nothing new right? How would she get past searing ash or shuriken kage bunshin? You didn't present a counter for those either even though I brought it up multiple times. The only thing you focused on was boy on boy. We've already seen her fall to crap multiple times when it comes to sasuke but I digress.

 

[Legendary Toad Sage]

This is what you said and is the only thing of relevance in your post:
"why in gods name would someone as intelligent as Sakura mindlessly attack a clone specialist without caution?" She WILL be ready for any and all clone feints. "

All it means is (like I already called you on) "she's smart so she won't fall for it"

I didn't say she couldn't fall for a clone feint, I said she would be ready for one. blatantly attacking a clone specialist without anticipation of a clone feint is borderline retarded. The feint working depends on what Konohamaru does. If he tries for a Rasengan (god forbid Odama) he gives away the element of surprise and gets halted dead in his tracks by a simple ground punch. As far as harem, you never displayed Sakura or much anybody with fighting intent falling for it. Every single example you provided of harem doing anything significant happened to be a lighthearted, comical situation.

Nothing new right? How would she get past searing ash or shuriken kage bunshin? You didn't present a counter for those either even though I brought it up multiple times. The only thing you focused on was boy on boy. We've already seen her fall to crap multiple times when it comes to sasuke but I digress.

You never once mentioned anything outside of Harem and Clone Feints in our argument at all. Anyways. . .
Emitting a cloud of slow moving ash from 50 meters away gives Sakura more then enough time to evade the technique(if it even reaches that far in the first place). The other technique is effortlessly deflected, and if the shuriken should ever get overwhelming she can just leap over them (as Naruto displayed in the OVA). The better question is how does Konohamaru deal with being pressured so heavily with someone faster then him throwing environment shaping punches and kicks? The longer this fight drags on, the worse things get for him. I'm willing to bet Searing Ash, and Shuriken Kage Bunshin both take a hefty chunk of his chakra.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

I didn't say she couldn't fall for a clone feint, I said she would be ready for one. blatantly attacking a clone specialist without anticipation of a clone feint is borderline retarded. The feint working depends on what Konohamaru does. If he tries for a Rasengan (god forbid Odama) he gives away the element of surprise and gets halted dead in his tracks by a simple ground punch. As far as harem, you never displayed Sakura or much anybody with fighting intent falling for it. Every single example you provided of harem doing anything significant happened to be a lighthearted, comical situation.



You never once mentioned anything outside of Harem and Clone Feints in our argument at all. Anyways. . .
Emitting a cloud of slow moving ash from 50 meters away gives Sakura more then enough time to evade the technique(if it even reaches that far in the first place). The other technique is effortlessly deflected, and if the shuriken should ever get overwhelming she can just leap over them (as Naruto displayed in the OVA). The better question is how does Konohamaru deal with being pressured so heavily with someone faster then him throwing environment shaping punches and kicks? The longer this fight drags on, the worse things get for him.

Do you even know what a clone feint is? Or how it works? It's like a pre planned substitution jutsu. Instead of switching yourself out with a log AFTER you get hit u switch out with a clone BEFORE your opponent even noticed.
The only reason why you'd come out is if your clone(that your opponent is blindly fighting) pops. Even then you can just send in another clone to act like you. As for her jumping over shuriken kage bunshin according to the hype the tech can't be dodged only blocked.(in both manga cases oro and obito blocked not dodged) And if it's done in conjunction with mass shadow clone there's even less of a chance for her to dodge(coupled with the fact that she doesn't even know about the tech). All the while the real konohamaru is hiding. Should she attack his clone searing ash or rasengan awaits a unsuspecting sakura and ends her.

 

[Legendary Toad Sage]

Do you even know what a clone feint is? Or how it works? It's like a pre planned substitution jutsu. Instead of switching yourself out with a log AFTER you get hit u switch out with a clone BEFORE your opponent even noticed.
The only reason why you'd come out is if your clone(that your opponent is blindly fighting) pops. Even then you can just send in another clone to act like you.

Yes what happened with Kakuzu and Naruto, two opponents of comparable speed. Having traveled alongside Naruto for such a long time she should have immense knowledge on KB tactics, it'll be a waste of time and chakra.

As for her jumping over shuriken kage bunshin according to the hype the tech can't be dodged only blocked.(in both manga cases oro and obito blocked not dodged) And if it's done in conjunction with mass shadow clone there's even less of a chance for her to dodge(coupled with the fact that she doesn't even know about the tech).

Both Orochimaru and Obito could have avoided that linear joke with ease(especially Obito). Not like a simple substitution wouldn't suffice anyways. . .they're still just shuriken. Depending on where exactly they are in Konoha she may even be opt to take cover behind a building. Also when (not if) that jutsu fails, Konohamaru is on E in terms of chakra.

All the while the real konohamaru is hiding. Should she attack his clone searing ash or rasengan awaits a unsuspecting sakura and ends her.

Searing Ash isn't difficult at all to dodge especially for a master of evasion, and he isn't nearly fast enough to tag her with Rasengan. She punches the ground, knocks him off balance, and caves his skull in with a finger flick. . . clone for distraction or not.


This is all assuming Sakura isn't already in his grill. Nothing above is relevant if he has to face her in taijutsu (which he will). You can't help but at the very least block against an opponent who is faster and more skilled in taijutsu then you, when they are pressuring you up close.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Yes what happened with Kakuzu and Naruto, two opponents of comparable speed. Having traveled alongside Naruto for such a long time she should have immense knowledge on KB tactics, it'll be a waste of time and chakra.



Both Orochimaru and Obito could have avoided that linear joke with ease(especially Obito). Not like a simple substitution wouldn't suffice anyways. . .they're still just shuriken. Depending on where exactly they are in Konoha she may even be opt to take cover behind a building. Also when (not if) that jutsu fails, Konohamaru is on E in terms of chakra.



Searing Ash isn't difficult at all to dodge especially for a master of evasion, and he isn't nearly fast enough to tag her with Rasengan. She punches the ground, knocks him off balance, and caves his skull in with a finger flick. . . clone for distraction or not.


This is all assuming Sakura isn't already in his grill. Nothing above is relevant if he has to face her in taijutsu (which he will). You can't help but at the very least block against an opponent who is faster and more skilled in taijutsu then you, when they are pressuring you up close.

Actually naruto doesn't employ it the way kakashi or konohamaru does. Naruto hides amongst his clones, kakashi and konohamaru hide in different places all together.(atop a building perhaps?)

Searing ash isn't hard to dodge? (It's never been dodged but thus far in the manga but hey you know something I don't)
She won't dodge it if she doesn't know what it is. To her it's just a smoke cloud.

And if he attack's from the sky with his rasengan none of the counters you mentioned won't work.(and again he can always send a clone to do this instead of himself.)

Like I said sakura isn't blitzing him from 50 m especially when he has multiple techs to keep her away. And if she does get close chances are its a clone.