Konoha VS Suna (Hokage VS Kazekage)

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They meet on a plain meadow. The armies of the Hokage and Kazekage are ready. Gaara waits for Tsunade's shinobi to make a move. Both kages are in the battlefield.

While the shinobi (grunts) are battling each other, Tsunade and Gaara go head to head.

Gaara has the range power and wouldn't be foolish enough to let Tsunade land a hit in her. And now that Gaara's managed to have Shukaku back (fanfic), his chakra reserves have gone up the roof and is now also a perfect Jinchuuriki.

Taunade, having showed her true potential, has sage mode. She will not be dealt with so easily and she does not have to support anyone on the battlefield (yet) until her battle with the Kazekage is finished.

Both intend to finish off one another. Who will win?
 

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So this is only gaara and tsunade?. Kazekage high diff
 

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His Shukaku mode won't do anything. Tsunade in Sage Mood outspeeds Gaara. If Tsunade's strength is enough to lift Bunta's sword then her SM strength should be colossal.

Tsunade wins.
 

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His Shukaku mode won't do anything. Tsunade in Sage Mood outspeeds Gaara. If Tsunade's strength is enough to lift Bunta's sword then her SM strength should be colossal.

Tsunade wins.

a sage beats a perfect jin...right:flaw:
 

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Yagura was a perfect Jin and still got captured.....

Does the name Yagura rings a bell to you?

what are you 2 talking abt?,yagura wac captured by tobi IIRC,and the sanbi was alone when deidara captured it. Did yagura face an opponent in sage mode with his ful jin powers and loose?,if so remind me,cuz tobi isnt a sage IIRC.
 

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what are you 2 talking abt?,yagura wac captured by tobi IIRC,and the sanbi was alone when deidara captured it. Did yagura face an opponent in sage mode with his ful jin powers and loose?,if so remind me,cuz tobi isnt a sage IIRC.

Yagura did not face a Sage, but he still had full powers of his Jin and lost.
 

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what are you 2 talking abt?,yagura wac captured by tobi IIRC,and the sanbi was alone when deidara captured it. Did yagura face an opponent in sage mode with his ful jin powers and loose?,if so remind me,cuz tobi isnt a sage IIRC.

Yagura, the jinchuuriki of three tailed beat lost a battle, despite he was a perfect jinchuuriki. And the three tailed beast is stronger then the one tailed beast. So even if Gaara is a perfect jinchuuriki, he won't be as strong as Bee, Naruto or Yagura.
 

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Yagura did not face a Sage, but he still had full powers of his Jin and lost.

did i say a perfect jin can never loose?,yagura was manipulated by tobi,if anythng,he lost to tobi,whom would beat 99% of NV,sanbi was taken by itself,yagura didnt have it stripped from him like the others.

Yagura, the jinchuuriki of three tailed beat lost a battle, despite he was a perfect jinchuuriki. And the three tailed beast is stronger then the one tailed beast. So even if Gaara is a perfect jinchuuriki, he won't be as strong as Bee, Naruto or Yagura.

how is sanbi stronger than shukaku?,only kyubi thinks that tails equal power,but hachibi stated otherwise and said that it was for that very reason the others,especially shukaku hated him. The ape,did much better than the 6 tails,and sent hachibi,the 8 tails flying. Kyubi is the strongest,thats the only thing we know. Shukaku is far more versatile than sanbi,can use sand+wind,and can actually use ninja techniques,it's body is made of sand,hence it can ignore damage. Yagura wont be as strong as gaara if he were a perfect jin,i doubt sanbi can take a sand burial from the shukaku.

If gaara is a perfect jin,then his chakra levels,alongside the amount of chakra he can flow through his sand would increase immensely,also shukaku's body is made of sand,punches wont really do any good would it?.
 

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did i say a perfect jin can never loose?,yagura was manipulated by tobi,if anythng,he lost to tobi,whom would beat 99% of NV,sanbi was taken by itself,yagura didnt have it stripped from him like the others.



how is sanbi stronger than shukaku?,only kyubi thinks that tails equal power,but hachibi stated otherwise and said that it was for that very reason the others,especially shukaku hated him. The ape,did much better than the 6 tails,and sent hachibi,the 8 tails flying. Kyubi is the strongest,thats the only thing we know. Shukaku is far more versatile than sanbi,can use sand+wind,and can actually use ninja techniques,it's body is made of sand,hence it can ignore damage. Yagura wont be as strong as gaara if he were a perfect jin,i doubt sanbi can take a sand burial from the shukaku.

If gaara is a perfect jin,then his chakra levels,alongside the amount of chakra he can flow through his sand would increase immensely,also shukaku's body is made of sand,punches wont really do any good would it?.

I disagree with Shikaku being stronger than Isobu (Sanbi). Isobu has a great defense which i don't think Shikaku could get through. Also Isobu can use Water Style etc.
 

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I disagree with Shikaku being stronger than Isobu (Sanbi). Isobu has a great defense which i don't think Shikaku could get through. Also Isobu can use Water Style etc.

what great defence?,his shell?,gaara alone casually crushes the strongest minerals in the earth,shukaku,who is the origin of sand manipulation can do far more than that,that shell wont save him from a bijuu sand burial,or even worse, a bijuu giant sand burial. Water dosent affect gaara,it wont tickle shukaku,and sanbi cant really use water techs,he can shoot out water and can make a tsunami,but only when in a water source like a lake,shukaku can blast wind attacks and spa, sand attacks almost anywhere.

Uh... yeah?

Shukaku is the weakest tailed beast. Naruto and Bunta pretty much beat him down, and that was Part 1 Naruto.

if we are reading the same manga,i seem to recall them just waking up a sleeing gaara,which according to bunta was the only thing they could do,and i seem to recall that shukaku wasnt near full strength,and the fact that it was part 1,where power levels were human,hiruzen beat edo hashi and tobirama,you think he can do the same on part 2?.

When gaara did this,


his dad thought it was shukaku,now answer me,did shukaku use anything like that against bunta?,oh and gaara's dad, fought shukaku when gaara was around 6 years old,so if a shukaku,in a 6 year old gaara who wasnt a perfect jin could do that,then gaara who is no 16,and is a perfect jin,utilizing shukaku's powers wouldnt be better??,or wait....they would be WAY better.
 

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what great defence?,his shell?,gaara alone casually crushes the strongest minerals in the earth,shukaku,who is the origin of sand manipulation can do far more than that,that shell wont save him from a bijuu sand burial,or even worse, a bijuu giant sand burial. Water dosent affect gaara,it wont tickle shukaku,and sanbi cant really use water techs,he can shoot out water and can make a tsunami,but only when in a water source like a lake,shukaku can blast wind attacks and spa, sand attacks almost anywhere.



if we are reading the same manga,i seem to recall them just waking up a sleeing gaara,which according to bunta was the only thing they could do,and i seem to recall that shukaku wasnt near full strength,and the fact that it was part 1,where power levels were human,hiruzen beat edo hashi and tobirama,you think he can do the same on part 2?.

When gaara did this,


his dad thought it was shukaku,now answer me,did shukaku use anything like that against bunta?,oh and gaara's dad, fought shukaku when gaara was around 6 years old,so if a shukaku,in a 6 year old gaara who wasnt a perfect jin could do that,then gaara who is no 16,and is a perfect jin,utilizing shukaku's powers wouldnt be better??,or wait....they would be WAY better.

I totally agree! And I dont remember Yagura fighting Tobi and losing.
 

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And the three tailed beast is stronger then the one tailed beast.
how so? shukaku controls a desert and is made of sand. so isobus attacks cant hurt him


Shukaku is the weakest tailed beast. Naruto and Bunta pretty much beat him down, and that was Part 1 Naruto.
shukaku isnt the weakest. bunta and naruto only took his arm. the only person they actually hurt was gaara who they punched awake. shukaku by himself cant be deactivated by punching. plus he wasnt in a desert so hes even more handicapped

yagura was manipulated by tobi,if anythng,he lost to tobi,
he was in a genjutsu but we dont know why or how. no proof it was an all out fight

If Tsunade's strength is enough to lift Bunta's sword then her SM strength should be colossal.
good thing she doesnt have any such mode then nor would we know her limitations if she did

Well he gave Tsunade sage mode. This means she is a way faster and a way stronger + she has sensor skills. So IMO it can go either way.
shukakus made of sand. taijutsus ineffective
 
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