KONOHA devastation: 6POP or NAGATO himself

[KingHashirama]

Over View:

There is this whole BS argument going on about "Healthy Nagato" being "Prime Nagato". And that he could've beat everyone in the village, if it was him.. instead of the Paths.

However that is a BS statement. Here is why. 6 People do more damage then 1. Also, Nagato already admit Jiraiya was superior to him if only he had known the "secret". You see this "secret" is what made Nagato into a "GOD".


Nagato isn't a God cause he did OP stuff himself.. Hes a freaking God because of the 6POP. Those paths of his are the main aresenal, and the reason for his OPness.

Sure Nagato without the 6 paths is also OP.. I mean look what he did against the army of Hanzo.. but saying 1 PERSON is better then 6 PEOPLE.... is BS.


Reasons:

So, to determine my point and provide the reasons, we are gonna go with the "Konoha Devastation" scenario. ok.


6 Paths of Pain go first.

- they provide more man power
- They provide more distraction
- They provide more challenge for the enemy
- They provide a way to go against multiple enemies
- Share the same vision.
- can keep getting Resurrected

Anyone who says these 6 are all controlled by Nagato first handed, as in Nagato makes them jump and etc.. I highly suggest you reread the manga.

Nagato himself.

- easy for the enemy to attack 1 person and form a plan
- easy to point out
- not that awsome in Taijutsu
- Can't take on extreme amounts of Strong people, for example. Kakashi, Tsunade, Naruto, Choza , Shikaku.. together could've killed him easily (not as in like a "Breeze" but without getting killed or going all out).


Anyone who counts Edo Nagato and considers him to be the same even if he was walking when he was living needs to reread.


Point being, the secret of 6POP is what made Nagato into a GOD (rinnegan also of course). But him being "omnipotent" or "indestructible".. and etc

6POP IS NAGATO'S PRIME.

 

[bigfatloser]

6POP are harder to take on Nagato himself.

This is the only part I want to speak to. I agree that the 6POP are better for invading Konoha, and even fighting 1 v 1 in general, as Nagato is crippled. However, I think an agile 'healthy' Nagato would be better in 1 v 1's then the 6POP

 

[KingHashirama]

This is the only part I want to speak to. I agree that the 6POP are better for invading Konoha, and even fighting 1 v 1 in general, as Nagato is crippled. However, I think an agile 'healthy' Nagato would be better in 1 v 1's then the 6POP

6Pop have shown better taijutsu then Nagato when he was healthy as a living being.

 

[Moss]

Perhaps if Nagato had joined the fight against Naruto, they would've won. But since he was ill, or running out of chakra, he could only control them without fighting himself.

 

[bigfatloser]

6Pop have shown better taijutsu then Nagato when he was healthy as a living being.

I feel like taijutsu is pretty irrelevant when you have all 6 paths at once.

 

[Sherlock.]

Seems Legit....

 

[KingHashirama]

Perhaps if Nagato had joined the fight against Naruto, they would've won. But since he was ill, or running out of chakra, he could only control them without fighting himself.

Which fight are you talking about?

I feel like taijutsu is pretty irrelevant when you have all 6 paths at once.

Taijutsu is relevent because they can take out multiple with that.

 

[Waltz]

The paths complied together eliminates each individual paths weakness and jutsu-limitations. The Six paths of pein had the potential to kill naruto via chibaku tensei alone and could've been done when he first arrived on the scene, but the objective was capture not kill. Nagato through them also utilized much large scale jutsu (chou shinra tensei, ect) prior to naruto arrival which sheds some light on chakra reserves. Being an uzumaki increases such factors.In sheer power, speed and intelligence, Nagato himself overrides the paths and this has already been stated canonically [

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is able to utilize Pein Rikudō, making 7 opponents in total; not forgetting that nagato himself can perform techniques wielded by each path on a much higher scale in the same fight.

 

[KingHashirama]

The paths complied together eliminates each individual paths weakness and jutsu-limitations. The Six paths of pein had the potential to kill naruto via chibaku tensei alone and could've been done when he first arrived on the scene, but the objective was capture not kill. Nagato through them also utilized much large scale jutsu (chou shinra tensei, ect) prior to naruto arrival which sheds some light on chakra reserves. Being an uzumaki increases such factors.In sheer power, speed and intelligence, Nagato himself overrides the paths and this has already been stated canonically [

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] and such a statement has no reference to his edo-state as in such a state the individual retains their original speed and power. Besides succeeding in these areas, Nagato in his

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is able to utilize Pein Rikudō, making 7 opponents in total; not forgetting that nagato himself can perform techniques wielded by each path on a much higher scale in the same fight.

He was a god damn edo...... O_O...... His Big Shinra tensei was that effective due to him using the paths.

Also, you have forgotten that Edos don't get tired. The speed of Nagato is not fast, sheer power is actually dependent on the amount the jutsus require.


And also, we are talking about the 6 Paths vs Nagato.. not nagato himself also going there.....

 

[kakashi ms]

the big number is useful

 

[Zexion~]

No Nagato>> Pain In order for the 6 paths of pain to work he has to divide his chakra into 6 Bodies...Which Makes Each ones power weaker then it would be with Nagato.. Being Edo doesnt really Influence the strength of the technique it just Creates ENDLESS chakra .. so they could use the techniques as much as they want .. Nagato's St And CT would Be of a much greater scale then pain

While i Agree the 6Pop are better for a full scale invasion .... Nagato Himself is far more dangerous and most likely could of taken the village himself