wouldn't she have bugs sitting on her all day long? only a spacetime user can get away from shino's bugs. They will follow the target till the job is done.
Y would they let her get away? please tell me. her titles and hype isn't getting her away from neji or hinata
she slapped them out of the air. She won't be able to do that to an attack she has no way of seeing. thus loosing her momentum and getting slapped out the sky
It canonically ripped a person in half(part 1 btw) her body isn't more durable than the average human.
Neji and hinata seal her chakra 64 palms. katsuyu gets eaten alive by shino's bugs.
Countered everything with 4 of the 12 ppl on this team.
they won't follow her into katsuya. And no, they won't be 'eating' katsuya. there's also the case of shino using them as defence as even if tsunade is surrounded by them, she'd still go smashing all over shino, along with katsuya spitting acid.
Hyuuga's have superior hand speed, not foot speed.
what? That makes no sense. In order for her to redirect them and keep moving forward, she has to have had a greater momentum. Invisible or not, Air palm only lasts a fraction of a second. It hits just like the fireball, so she'd just but slapped in the breast and still come crashing down on neji's head with a kick. That's assuming neji hits her since she isn't a massive juubi target, nor is she dirt slow.
When it hit them. She can move and thus redirect the attack from slicing through her. OR she can punch them while they're comming and just drop them to the floor. Something like when she pulled orochimaru in and punched him in his face.
if they get within range. She has to go stand infront of hyuuga for a while for that to happen. They don't just do 64 palms stops chakra flow, it doesn't Negate chakra. She uses chakra to increase the metabollic rate of cells and the rate at which they divide. Cells don't pass through the chakra system(especially not skin cells), so the methods of amplifying these cells aren't as simply as cut off 1 or two chakra points and that's it. That'd most likely only cut off her super strength. But, there's still katsuya.
So, Shino is going to surround tsunade with bugs AND eat a massive summon? Does that make any sense to you? Where does shino get enough bugs to do this feat? Eating katsuya for 1.
Shino hosts bugs in his body. He has less than a third his body size in bugs (since space is taken up by organs, tissues, etc). You think he'd eat out a summoning that's at least 100 times his size, with a volume of bugs less than a third of his size? A match has never evaporated a lake. This doesn't even take into consideration that katsuya can also split herself up into thousands of smaller bodies, which would be far harder, if not impossible, for shino to sucessfully beat all of them.
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I just 1 shotted your entire team. Any survives get hit again. Mini-juubi resistance > normal shinobi resistance.
Alright, bring on your reasons. Bring out everything that makes you believe that she can possibly win, and I'll counter it all. Show me that you're capable of bringing up something that actually holds any ground.
It's kind of funny to me how people refuse to acknowledge Shikamaru's presence. Not only is he a genius, but shadow possession is simply too much for Tsunade if she gets caught and backed up by the rest of the k11. It's ridiculous to think she wins really. I'm sure if he came up with a decent strategy to combat the immortal Hidan with only Asuma (with no intel) then coming up with a strategy in the heat of battle to fight Tsunade and Katsuya should be mere child's play (backed by the rest of the k11 of course).
Shadow manicane won't stop byakugo from running. KAtsuya would then break her out of it by simply absorbing tsunade into her body. Shikamaru now has to restrain a massive summon. not happening without kyuubi chakra.
And no, they won't be 'eating' katsuya. there's also the case of shino using them as defence as even if tsunade is surrounded by them, she'd still go smashing all over shino, along with katsuya spitting acid.
I already told you what happens to the slug. It will be eating katsuya. Manga scan proves this. Shino summons them. he has completely different bugs on him for attack and defense. The bugs eating the slug is summoned specifically for this purpose. To eat their target from the inside out.
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How is she gonna attack shino when she as 2 gentle fist on her ass?
She slapped them away with her hands her momentum had nothing to do with her slapping away the fire She could have stood still and slapped away the fire.
In order for her to redirect them and keep moving forward, she has to have had a greater momentum. Invisible or not, Air palm only lasts a fraction of a second. It hits just like the fireball, so she'd just but slapped in the breast and still come crashing down on neji's head with a kick. That's assuming neji hits her since she isn't a massive juubi target, nor is she dirt slow.
No it doesn't. Airpalm is specifically made to hit vital point and knock the person off their feet. Fireballs aren't. She'd get hit in the vitals cough up blood and go in the opposite direction.
When it hit them. She can move and thus redirect the attack from slicing through her. OR she can punch them while they're comming and just drop them to the floor. Something like when she pulled orochimaru in and punched him in his face.
I'm assuming you're talking about kiba. Again the air around the attack cuts up the opponent before initial contact is made. As for her dodging.....naww he'll just follow her sent.
if they get within range. She has to go stand infront of hyuuga for a while for that to happen. They don't just do 64 palms stops chakra flow, it doesn't Negate chakra. She uses chakra to increase the metabollic rate of cells and the rate at which they divide. Cells don't pass through the chakra system(especially not skin cells), so the methods of amplifying these cells aren't as simply as cut off 1 or two chakra points and that's it.
So, Shino is going to surround tsunade with bugs AND eat a massive summon? Does that make any sense to you? Where does shino get enough bugs to do this feat? Eating katsuya for 1.
Shino hosts bugs in his body. He has less than a third his body size in bugs (since space is taken up by organs, tissues, etc). You think he'd eat out a summoning that's at least 100 times his size, with a volume of bugs less than a third of his size? A match has never evaporated a lake. This doesn't even take into consideration that katsuya can also split herself up into thousands of smaller bodies, which would be far harder, if not impossible, for shino to sucessfully beat all of them.
he summons the bugs that eat katsuyu read the scan. the bugs he hosts in his body are completely different. Once the bugs are in the system even if she spits up her body the parasite will have already infected her.
using a sakura feat for tsunade? thats a new low, and considering the fact that sakura the person who did this is on k11...... u just 1 shotted tsunade with sakura. Congratulations.
People i still didnt mention yet
Ino-shika-sho
ten-ten
lee
sai.
The fact that u think tsunade wins is just funny b4 the recent events k11 won high diff.
In light of the new events its a stomp.
The fact that i can argue this with half the team is proof enough.
im honestly confused by the people saying katsuyu (lol) is going to "keep them busy" when shes not even meant to be an offensive creature in the first place. her only feasible attack would be her slime stuff, which k9 can evade with sai's help or block with neji and hinata's rotation. the only way tsunade could survive is if she outlasts them all with her mitotic regeneration and katsuyu's healing powers, but thats unlikely as katsuyu could be destroyed by kiba's cerebrus and lee in gates mode and sakura could heal most of k9 until tsunade is all by herself. from then, neji, hinata and lee pick her apart in close combat while shino and the rest maul her from mid-long range. however u look at it, tsunade's not the type by herself to go up against 9 or 10 high jonin-lvl shinobi who know all her tricks.
Neji alone is her worst possible match-up. He can effectively cut off her healing and super strength with his superior handspeed while effectively defending against her attacks with his taijutsu abilities and superior speed. Without that, Tsunade is just a ninja who is very proficient in taijustu with great base strength. Without her summon, he alone could solo mid-high diff.
If Katsuya is ever summoned, provided Neji even allows Tsunade to do so with his superior hand and footspeed, Shino's bugs can now eat Katsuya from the inside out and at a rapid pace. If necessary, Ino or Shikamaru could be tossed in as backup with their powerful support abilities for either Tsunade or Katsuya.
These above people mentioned above could, by themselves, win with, at most, mid difficulty. The rest aren't even needed cause they would just make it a roflstomp.
The K11 have grown remarkably strong after these recent feats and I would say that practically every single one of them is around at LEAST low jounin level with their respective abilities.
Tsunade high diff. Only problems would be Neji, Shino and.... No, that's it. Sakura if she is included.
I still believe that she'll take out Neji quite easily. Same with Shino. Actually, I think it's mid-diff. Good day to you.
I already told you what happens to the slug. It will be eating katsuya. Manga scan proves this. Shino summons them. he has completely different bugs on him for attack and defense. The bugs eating the slug is summoned specifically for this purpose. To eat their target from the inside out.
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How is she gonna attack shino when she as 2 gentle fist on her ass?
Where is she running to?
Shino's bugs will follow her
Hinata will follow her
Neji will follow her
Kiba will follow her
She isn't going anywhere.
She slapped them away with her hands her momentum had nothing to do with her slapping away the fire She could have stood still and slapped away the fire.
No it doesn't. Airpalm is specifically made to hit vital point and knock the person off their feet. Fireballs aren't. She'd get hit in the vitals cough up blood and go in the opposite direction.
I'm assuming you're talking about kiba. Again the air around the attack cuts up the opponent before initial contact is made. As for her dodging.....naww he'll just follow her sent.
so how is the chakra gonna get throughout her body to increase cell division?
It shuts down everything.
he summons the bugs that eat katsuyu read the scan. the bugs he hosts in his body are completely different. Once the bugs are in the system even if she spits up her body the parasite will have already infected her.
using a sakura feat for tsunade? thats a new low, and considering the fact that sakura the person who did this is on k11...... u just 1 shotted tsunade with sakura. Congratulations.
People i still didnt mention yet
Ino-shika-sho
ten-ten
lee
sai.
The fact that u think tsunade wins is just funny b4 the recent events k11 won high diff.
In light of the new events its a stomp.
The fact that i can argue this with half the team is proof enough.
You don't understand how tsunade works and I can't be bothered responding to you anymore so this is my last post.
The bugs which eat chakra and which eat targets are different. Moving into katsuya negates the chakra eaters as they can't follow. The other ones have to be directly injected. Shi no has to run up to a massive summon, punch it, and wait for the bug to crawl in. Katsuya or tsunade can kill him during that process. That's if shi no reaches close since katsuya can move and can spit acid to stop him from coming. Shi no isn't that fast and won't dodge katsuyas acid effortlessly
Probably chakra won't get to a few points, but there are over 300 chakra points. 64 palms shuts down/ increases the flow of 64 points.
The manga blatantly said that attack of sakura may have been stronger than tsunade. As in, tsunade has destruction on that level. For that matter, tsunade would be uninjured as byakugo heals her. Sakura would be to be healing her team mates to run around fighting tsunade.
Everything else in your post is garbage. Tsunade is cut in half and still alive. Katsuya even asks to put her back but you're saying whoever 1 shots, lul.
The hugs are the only threat. And they won't hit her enough to warrant any significant hindrance. If they shut off chakra in her arms, she still has her legs. Taking away her super strength isn't that easy. Along with the fact that you think tsunade is slow even though we've seen plenty speed feat from her. The hugs are only faster than her in hand speed. Lee in foot speed. Everyone else is slower.
Edit: you say you argue with half the team when only 2 people on your team are a threat. Everyone else getting beaten to shit. There's a difference in everyone being able to beat her and only 1/2 people being able to just slow her down. Listing everyone's jutsu doesn't mean a thing when they're all useless in the situation.
I love how u said it like it can't happen. Pointing out step by step. The reason you do this is because you don't have a counter for it. If/when it happens the slugs a gonner. So instead of countering it u try to rule out the possibility.
Tsunade doesn't even know he has that ability. Even if she magically sees it coming and tries to stop shino she still has +9 people on her ass. 3 of which(according to the databook and feats) are faster than her.
That's if shi no reaches close since katsuya can move and can spit acid to stop him from coming. Shi no isn't that fast and won't dodge katsuyas acid effortlessly
Now you're gonna rule out her getting hit by 64 palms correctly? Even though two people on this team can perform the technique? One of which has been doing it for years?
The manga blatantly said that attack of sakura may have been stronger than tsunade. As in, tsunade has destruction on that level. For that matter, tsunade would be uninjured as byakugo heals her. Sakura would be to be healing her teamates to run around fighting tsunade.
:| give me a scan of tsunade causing destruction on that level. she has to get airborne just to perform heaven kick of pain. Shit choji can tank that.neji rotates to block it. Sai knocks her ass out the sky with his art before she even finishes.
She was bisected and in no condition to fight. With kiba's attacks her entire midsection will be gone. Her legs head and arms will be in completely different places and the fact that he can do this with multiple techs is even worse.
Along with the fact that you think tsunade is slow even though we've seen plenty speed feat from her. The hugs are only faster than her in hand speed. Lee in foot speed. Everyone else is slower.
I say that team 8 + neji can take it. Thats 4 people. ★AncientCenturion thinks that ino-shika-cho shino and neji could take it. Thats 5 people. two different teams.In total we mentioned 7 ppl that threaten her life. Not even the entire k11.
Everyone else getting beaten to shit. There's a difference in everyone being able to beat her and only 1/2 people being able to just slow her down. Listing everyone's jutsu doesn't mean a thing when they're all useless in the situation.
I can do without your personal feelings. You're letting it cloud your judgement.
Now that i have counteredEVERYTHING u said. It's your turn. This post was done before the events of chapter 633 but i've made slight changes to accommodate the new abilities.
Counter/negate it ALL or shut the hell up.
:bye:
smh
ok to begin tsunade won't win. If anything naruto does(or did) is stress teamwork.
everyone in k11 knows each others abilities.(excluding sai) up against a team like this tsunade looses.
Frontliners
Neji: He will engage her in close combat if he lands any hits what so ever it will take away from her chakra based strength(not that its fully based on chakra) and stop chakra flow. This limits her mobility and stops her healing abilities, since all chakra flows on the chakra network stop the flow thus chakra cannot get to her cell's thus she cannot heal. If she gets hit by 8 trigrams 64 palms her chakra network gets shutdown and like I stated earlier she cannot heal.
Rock Lee:With weights removed he can engage her in close quarter combat(cqc), even if he doesn't land a hit it won't matter. his purpose is to keep her busy enough so neji can land hits. Them being on the same team makes it even worse for her cus like i said teamwork is everything. She can't dodge reverse lotus and even if she can tank it chances are at the least she'll be dazed. leaving her open for neji, hinata, or kiba.
Kiba: Another front liner. his speed and fighting style will be trouble for tsunade due to its animal-like qualities. It was stated that tsunade dodges by looking at the patterns of her opponents attacks but can she do that simultaneously against the very different styles of gentle fist, strong fist, and the four legs technique?
On top of that fang wolf fang is a 1hitko that doesn't miss when urine is used as the tracer. Her body will be left in pieces regardless of her healing abilities.Now he can transform into cerberus and use fang spinning fang without
the use of pee.
Chouji: He can take care of her summon until shino infects it she ever gets the chance to summon the slug. He can pick it up and throw it or just keep it busy(doubt she will be more of a challenge then the gedo mazo) and wait for shino. If it doesn't get summoned due to the amount of pressure tsunade is already facing that's just another fighting style she will have to deal with. Butterfly bullet bombing will leave her in the same position as lee's reverse lotus and leave her open for fang wolf fang, or 64 palms.
Midrange
Hinata: She isn't a front liner but through air palm she can attack tsunade's vitals and knock her off her feet forcing her to manually heal herself if strength of 100 isn't active. Doing this continuously is just another problem tsunade has to worry about and if needed she can go to the front lines to fight due to her abilities in the gentle fist.(twin lion fists)Now that she has the ability to perform 64 palm she can join the ranks of the frontliners and help in the process of shutting down her chakra system.
Shino: Shino's bugs will constantly disrupt and suck her chakra and due to part of her strength coming from chakra control anything that disrupts it will weaken it. He can also infect her slug with his summoned bugs and pretty much kill it from the inside out.
Shikamaru: the brains of the operation he knows the abilities of all his peers so formulating a plan shouldn't be hard. And his shadow techniques are hard to dodge considering the fact that it changes depending on time of day. Shadow imitation shuriken technique can bind her in place and leave her open for any of the attacks listed both above and below.
Tenten: her constant barrage of ninja tools and the use of banana fan will keep tsunade busy and on her toes.
Long Range
Sai: His Super Beast Imitating Drawing technique will be a nuisance to tsunade and if she slips up he can seal her in a scroll.On top of that his location will be out of her range of counter attack so he can spam all he wants without repercussion. If she ever does take to the sky(or jump too high) he knocks her out the sky with this:
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Healing
Sakura:She will be healing.Any injury the team gets will be blunt force trauma or acid both of which are things she can handle, on top of that she will be handing out military rations pills to the team to keep them in their best shape possible. If she is targeted by tsunade she can fight back effectively since she knows the abilities of her master.
Ino:She will be healing as well but her mind body switch will be necessary to help land the devastating blows on tsunade. So she will be in between jobs.Furthermore if anybody dies she can take control of their body and keep them fighting via Mind Clone Switch Technique.
In conclusion. With all the variables going against her is near damn impossible for her to win.
