Susano'o isn't much of a problem either. The location allows the K11 to put distance between them and Itachi, whilst also still assaulting him with explosive kunai/tags from Sai's ink drawings, Shikamaru's Shadow Stitching, and Tenten, as well as Air Wall Palm. This allows them to force Itachi to keep his Susano'o up and drain his stamina, while successfully remaining out of the range of his attacks. Thus if they fail to breach his Susano'o with the combined might of Sakura + BM Choji + 6 Gated Lee + Cerberus Mode Kiba, and also fail to catch Itachi with a Mind Transfer jutsu, then they simply win via attrition by forcing him to drain his stamina with his techniques.
I don't have to do anything. You are the one making the assertion that Itachi can entrap multiple people in the same genjutsu, thus burden of proof is on you to back up your claim.
. Yet there are 10 other persons not under genjutsu that can break that one person out of genjutsu, with at least 3 being able to tell when anyone falls under genjutsu, and a summon that can attach to everyone to perform that same purpose. And once again, this is assuming anyone falls under genjutsu when they have knowledge on it in the first place.
Assuming the K11 don't also use the location to their advantage by using the trees to also block line of sight. Nevermind the fact that Itachi doesn't have the stamina for 11 Amaterasus anyways, seeing that using 2, one Tsukuyomi and one Katon left him half dead.
Sakura can break Itachis feeble Susanoo.
It's too many people.
To many tacticians
Itachi dies.
Sakura gives everyone Katsuyu to avoid genjutsu .
Ino give intel on clones hinata helps.
Shikamaru plans things out,
Sakura would be deverse, medic + the brutes
Choji would held with offensive attacks.
Neji would help watch, and provide defense.
Sai would paint.
Ten ten would counter Itachi weapons, or Sakura can help her use the fan.
Lee would help with offensive.
Lee sand Sakura would be like ay and tsunade vs Madara.
Shino can be one to paralyze him, eat at his chakra.
Kiba and sniff out traps and help offesively I guess
Lets see :
Sai : can make birds, which would allow few of them to fly
Sakura: can heal everybody via Katsuyu( if get hit by amaterasu it will divides itself)
Hinata and Neji : strong byakugan users who will not get hit that easily and will detect if someoes chakra is disturbed( tskyomi can't be casted on all 11 ), can see when the itachi concentrates chakra in his eye ( with intel they know what is coming and they can warn the others or sth like that.
Ino: can connect everybody's mind ->
Shikamaru: will make the strategies , which will be told everyone via inos mind transfer jutsu
tenten: will constantly fire weapons in itachis direction
kiba: has huge destruction force if he goes cerberus mode
choji : also has destruction force and speed
lee : 6 gate will allow him to keep up with itachis speed maybe even better
Shino: his very useful ability to control masses of chakra eating bugs will be the key to defeat susanno when itachi shows it,
the insects are to small to get hit with totska and the mass of bugs will eat the chakra susanno is made of,
even yata mirror can't protect itachis susanno everywhere and even it can, itachi will be on the defense and the team K11 only has to wait until he is out of chakra.
Not sure how this is even being debated. It's a very basic tool that many ninja's use. Any ninja worth his beans would have counters ready. Itachi is beyond Kage level, of course he has counters ready. Especially considering he knows his eye sight is almost gone.
I don't have to do anything. You are the one making the assertion that Itachi can entrap multiple people in the same genjutsu, thus burden of proof is on you to back up your claim.
Kakashi cast genjutsu on 2 people here, and he is no where near Itachi's level. Proof that you can cast genjutsu on more than one opponent.
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. Yet there are 10 other persons not under genjutsu that can break that one person out of genjutsu, with at least 3 being able to tell when anyone falls under genjutsu, and a summon that can attach to everyone to perform that same purpose. And once again, this is assuming anyone falls under genjutsu when they have knowledge on it in the first place.
You misunderstand. Orochimaru was a Sannin an he had trouble. All of them get placed and they won't even know. Neji and Hinata do a byakugan check and figure out they can't move, they're paralyzed. Same goes for the rest except they won't even be aware. Itachi's shusiun feats are good enough to keep up with KCM Naruto. He cuts all their heads off.
Too bad they're paralyzed. Bring me prooof Neji and Hinata can even see through it once already inside. Itachin isn't stupid he's not going to make it appear as though they are caught. Byakugan can't see through genjutsu.
Assuming the K11 don't also use the location to their advantage by using the trees to also block line of sight. Nevermind the fact that Itachi doesn't have the stamina for 11 Amaterasus anyways, seeing that using 2, one Tsukuyomi and one Katon left him half dead.
Lol Please don't get me started. The only problem here is susanoo. Itachi might even get stomped. Neji deals with Amaterasu with no diff. Genjutsu is shat on by Neji and Hinata as well.
Sai can even create birds for every one
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They can proceed to distract him while Ino uses Mind transfer. GG Itachi. Not to mention he can't hold Susanoo for long.
The scan of Kakashi using Genjutsu on those anbu was his Sharingan visual techniques. He looked at both their eyes and put them both under unless you believe Kakashi can cast visual techniques on one person that then magically affect everyone in the vicinity as well. Itachi does not have the luxury of being close to the Konoha 11 to even pull visual genjutsu off.
Thread already made years ago brah. Still remember debating on it
OT: As much as this pains me (Which is like a stab through the heart)
K11 wins mid-hard diff
Not sure how this is even being debated. It's a very basic tool that many ninja's use. Any ninja worth his beans would have counters ready. Itachi is beyond Kage level, of course he has counters ready. Especially considering he knows his eye sight is almost gone.
You avoided the question. How is Water Style, an element which usually causes water vapour and thus even more cover than normal smoke bombs, countering smoke?
He cast that with the Sharingan. Which means that the only reason those two fell for it was because they looked at his eye. K11 have knowledge. They are not likely to just look in Itachi's eyes.
All of them get placed and they won't even know. Neji and Hinata do a byakugan check and figure out they can't move, they're paralyzed. Same goes for the rest except they won't even be aware.
Except for the fact that once again, Itachi does not possess a genjutsu that allows him to do this. The genjutsu he used on Orochimaru was a Sharingan genjutsu, which K11 have knowledge of and will simply make sure they don't look in his eyes. Finger genjutsu they will also have knowledge of thanks to Sakura and telepathy/Katsuyu. Even then, in the event that someone is caught in genjutsu, it is a simple issue of any other member of the K11 going over to insert their chakra to that person, or Sakura inserting her chakra to them through Katsuyu.
You keep making this assertion that 11 people with knowledge on all of Itachi's major genjutsus are still going to all fall for genjutsu, when the only way they're going to do that is if they ignore all the knowledge they have on his genjutsu and look at his eyes/finger. The OP did not specify that the K11 are trying to lose, so I'm not sure why you keep asserting that they're all going to get caught in genjutsu ... somehow.
Too bad they're paralyzed. Bring me prooof Neji and Hinata can even see through it once already inside. Itachin isn't stupid he's not going to make it appear as though they are caught. Byakugan can't see through genjutsu.
Too bad you're taking that picture out of context. The extent of those flames caused by Itachi himself is seen here in
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, which is nowhere close to the AOE seen in that scan. The obvious reason for this is because the flames spread out due to them hitting trees. Therefore no, Itachi is not capable of that level of Amaterasu by himself. Hence my point still stands.
- sharingan genjutsu is not plausible ITT scenario
- Ino w/ hinata can repeatedly stun Itachi at 100 meters
- Choji is stronger than imperfect susanoo; Kiba is faster
- shika, Katsyuu and Neji can neutralize amaterasu
- Kiba & shino has free reign to counter attack w/ impunity
