Konoha 11 Rankings (With explanation)

[Dannie]

I consider my own list as a partial counter for your list, so unless you need further explanation upon things I have questions.

How does Lee 5 gates lose to Sasuke? Lee has superior speed, strength, experience, and stamina
Naruto defeating Lee is less far-fetched, if Naruto could use his cloak to outlast Lee he has a chance, otherwise he is defeated.
I made my list keeping everyone in mind, like I said before, Sasuke and Naruto are almost equal, so using other match ups is the only fair way to compare them, try not to be so close minded

Lee versus Sasuke? It will be a close fight, but Sasuke can win. CS2 is stronger and has a more durable body. Lee's 5th Gate is an issue and would probably take control of the fight but once Lee collapses like he did to Gaara then Sasuke can counter and take control. The Sharingan + Wings + Durable body would let Sasuke survive until he can counter. Lee will only be able to beat Sasuke in gates if Sasuke is not in CS2, but base Sasuke with 3T Sharingan is superior to non gate Lee without weights, so the beginning of the fight will be in Sasuke favor until Lee goes gates.

And no, your list is so full of shit it makes me wonder if you even comprehend the manga properly.

 

[Kirokill]

I agree fully with the Opening Post.
His explanations are sensible and right.

 

[Dannie]

Sakura is shown to be much smarter than Ino with perfect chakra control, at best Ino wins 3/10 matches due to the unlikely event that he jutsu is a success, all you'd have to do is rewatch the chunin exams to know this, if you even watched/read them at all

If it wasn't for Naruto, Ino would have won that match and Sakura would have lost. There would have been no draw. Intelligence? Ino was the one to outsmart Sakura in that scenario as she was the one who fell for the hair follicles on the floor. She got cocky and didn't pay attention.

Shikimaru is the smartest on the list, pissing off Kiba and drawing him into a trap would probably be the easiest thing he's ever done, that's saying something considering the majority of his life is easy going

When it comes to a battle Kiba can be smart and Shikamaru's slow shadows will never hit Kiba since that is all he's got.
2 headed wolf will tear him apart.

Tenten in a proficient ranged fighter, Chouji and Hinata are both close range (Almost the entire group is close ranged) neither of them have any chance at winning, don't forget Tenten is part of team Guy and has much more experience

Yeah, please don't make me argue for Hinata. It just proves when someone doesn't understand what they are talking about. Hinata has Byakugan and can see all around so a few fodder Kunai won't do anything in her presence when she can just dodge them.
Your arguments are just what I would expect from a fodder who can't read the manga. "Tenten is from Gai's team and has much more experience"
Feats > rank so don't state bs that you can't back up.
Do I even need to explain Choji. His needle human bolder will protect him from the flying ninja tools and once Tenten runs out of tricks then Chiji will take a green pill and stomp her just like he did Jirobo.
When was the last time Tenten showed anything new since her Temari fight?

It looks like you hastily threw my list around and spat it back out, your list is illogical and obviously took no thought to put together

Your post was not even worth commenting to and your arguments are even more half assed than your fodder list that probably took you an hour to come up with.

 

[ThatOfLegend]

Lee versus Sasuke? It will be a close fight, but Sasuke can win. CS2 is stronger and has a more durable body. Lee's 5th Gate is an issue and would probably take control of the fight but once Lee collapses like he did to Gaara then Sasuke can counter and take control. The Sharingan + Wings + Durable body would let Sasuke survive until he can counter. Lee will only be able to beat Sasuke in gates if Sasuke is not in CS2, but base Sasuke with 3T Sharingan is superior to non gate Lee without weights, so the beginning of the fight will be in Sasuke favor until Lee goes gates.

And no, your list is so full of shit it makes me wonder if you even comprehend the manga properly.

3t Sharingan could barely keep up with Naruto, there is no way you can actually use it as a legitimate argument vs Lee.

If CM2 actually had recognizable durability feats then you may have a point

The wings are the only valid point you presented , even then Lee was shown to move through the air so fast it looked like he was flying, what's stopping Lee from closing the Gates if Sasuke somehow manages to get out of reach?

 

[Dannie]

3t Sharingan could barely keep up with Naruto, there is no way you can actually use it as a legitimate argument vs Lee.

Kyubi Naruto who is faster than base Lee and was predicting all of Naruto's punches before he went 1 tail and started using his ranged chakra arms as an advantage.

If CM2 actually had recognizable durability feats then you may have a point

But it does, so I do have a point. His wings protected him from a one tailed chakra arm punch.

The wings are the only valid point you presented , even then Lee was shown to move through the air so fast it looked like he was flying, what's stopping Lee from closing the Gates if Sasuke somehow manages to get out of reach?

If Lee closes the gates than Sasuke will win. That simple.

 

[ThatOfLegend]

If it wasn't for Naruto, Ino would have won that match and Sakura would have lost. There would have been no draw. Intelligence? Ino was the one to outsmart Sakura in that scenario as she was the one who fell for the hair follicles on the floor. She got cocky and didn't pay attention.



When it comes to a battle Kiba can be smart and Shikamaru's slow shadows will never hit Kiba since that is all he's got.
2 headed wolf will tear him apart.


Yeah, please don't make me argue for Hinata. It just proves when someone doesn't understand what they are talking about. Hinata has Byakugan and can see all around so a few fodder Kunai won't do anything in her presence when she can just dodge them.
Your arguments are just what I would expect from a fodder who can't read the manga. "Tenten is from Gai's team and has much more experience"
Feats > rank so don't state bs that you can't back up.
Do I even need to explain Choji. His needle human bolder will protect him from the flying ninja tools and once Tenten runs out of tricks then Chiji will take a green pill and stomp her just like he did Jirobo.
When was the last time Tenten showed anything new since her Temari fight?


Your post was not even worth commenting to and your arguments are even more half assed than your fodder list that probably took you an hour to come up with.

Ino's jutsu is extremely inaccurate because of this, if she misses (Which is more likely than her succeeding) than she loses, it's as simple as that

Shikimaru's shadows have never been shown to be particularly slow or fast, but Kiba may have his moments in battle but vs Naruto he was stupid enough to waste all of his energy doing literally the exact same thing over and over, if Naruto was smart enough to trick Kiba than Shikimaru could do it in his sleep. Kiba being headstrong is his main problem in this battle, for god's sake he attacked his partner that he's know for life because of this.

Just because Hinata can see the projectiles doesn't mean she can counter them, are you trying to act like she has 360 degree kamui or something? Hundreds of projectiles at once would decimate her, Neji, the better of the two, can only counter it with Palm Rotation, which Hinata doesn't have.

Stop giving Chouji durability feats, when the sound ninja defeated him (With one blow mind you) his touch con caved Choji's body, showing it being weak, not solid. She may not be able to attack while he's moving but due to his lack of sight during the attack he'd crash whiten seconds, giving her an opening, just because you hate a character doesn't me an you should underrate them, that's what I meant by being biased

 

[Dannie]

So now Tenten can beat Choji?

Yeah, I'm wasting my time.

 

[Senchiha]

stopped at 2. list is awful

I totally agree. Lee is stronger than Naruto & Sasuke? ***** puhleaze! That's just trolling.

 

[lanakui8]

Lee should not be #1.

He held the 5th gate for only an instant, and the fourth gate is arguably even slower than than KN1 Naruto and CS2 Sasuke.

 

[Sonzumaki]

You underestimated Chouji, overestimated Shino, and Sasuke actually beat Naruto, so he should be on top. Other than that, I agree.

 

[super yang]

I agree fully with the Opening Post.
His explanations are sensible and right.

yep, it was a good thread.

my only input is to nitpick: I think Kiba & shika should be flip-flopped at 7. & 6.