Konan vs Hanzo

[Apêx1]

Someone needs to fully explain paper form :lol, pretty sure if she's still sliced in that form she's damaged, as paper can be cut.

She's already shown her paper form split from her head, and DB states her entire body is paper, so logic leads us to believe she has no organs in that form. And paper is replaceable, she creates the paper herself out of nothingness as shown when she was forming the paper disk vs Obito. Not to mention, her consciousness is spread throughout all her papers, which is how she teleported to Pain to give intel

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, and how she could form purely a head on paper [

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[Draegod]

Paper bomb explosions disperse poison cloud

So she'll blow her self up? Because the cloud was able to cover over 50 meters in under a second. How will she know when it's coming? If she goes to high her attacks are useless since they can be dodged, if she stays to close then she dies the moment she breathes or comes into contact. Hanzo can literally spit on her and watch her die or other methods.

Only way she can win is by literally leaving the fight which wouldn't be a win.

 

[Null Man]

Paper clones would be 100% immune to poison gas due to being bunshin with no organs. Konan can mix several explosive notes into two bunshin and have them confront Hanzo, while the real Konan flies above the poison gas cloud. Physical attacks are also useless against their paper form, so this leaves Hanzo with nothing to counter Konan's immunity to physical blows. Then there is the risk of having his limbs blown up by the tags in the clones, which Konan can command to self-destruct once Hanzo gets too close. Ibuse's saliva might be able to moisten the paper of clones to the point the it loses its form. But if Ibuse swallows one of the clones, it risks getting blown up from the insides by the explosion notes.

Le Paper Goddess should win it.

 

[Draegod]

Paper clones would be 100% immune to poison gas due to being bunshin with no organs. Konan can mix several explosive notes into two bunshin and have them confront Hanzo, while the real Konan flies above the poison gas cloud. Physical attacks are also useless against their paper form, so this leaves Hanzo with nothing to counter Konan's immunity to physical blows. Then there is the risk of having his limbs blown up by the tags in the clones, which Konan can command to self-destruct once Hanzo gets too close. Ibuse's saliva might be able to moisten the paper of clones to the point the it loses its form. But if Ibuse swallows one of the clones, it risks getting blown up from the insides by the explosion notes.

Le Paper Goddess should win it.

Paper clones? Scans of there feats! And also once the poison gets on her paper (whether scattered or loose) once she reforms to human body the poison takes affect and fight is over! Paper will 100% have the poison layered on it when contacted is made. Basically if abd when she reforms with a single paper with an once of poison on it she lose seeing as the part then becomes "her" and this will be in and apart of her body. And no, she will not be able to tell which paper has poison and which doesn't. Hanzo dodges all attacks with speed or underground.

 

[EZQ]

We need an explanation on Konan's paper form

 

[Null Man]

Paper clones? Scans of there feats! And also once the poison gets on her paper (whether scattered or loose) once she reforms to human body the poison takes affect and fight is over! Paper will 100% have the poison layered on it when contacted is made. Basically if abd when she reforms with a single paper with an once of poison on it she lose seeing as the part then becomes "her" and this will be in and apart of her body. And no, she will not be able to tell which paper has poison and which doesn't. Hanzo dodges all attacks with speed or underground.

Konan used Paper Clones to guard Nagato in the tree she created with her ninjutsu, stated in the

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Then the solution is simple. If Konan’s real paper body ever gets in contact with the poison gas, she stays during the whole duration of the match in her paper form until Hanzo dies. Highly unlikely though due to her aerial capabilities. Hiding underground only prolongs Hanzo’s defeat as he has no way to finish off the clones, or close the distance against an airborne Konan. Outlasting isn’t an option either, considering by feats Konan was able to manipulate six hundred billion explosion notes in a span of 10 minutes straight.

 

[Draegod]

Konan used Paper Clones to guard Nagato in the tree she created with her ninjutsu, stated in the

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Then the solution is simple. If Konan’s real paper body ever gets in contact with the poison gas, she stays during the whole duration of the match in her paper form until Hanzo dies. Highly unlikely though due to her aerial capabilities. Hiding underground only prolongs Hanzo’s defeat as he has no way to finish off the clones, or close the distance against an airborne Konan. Outlasting isn’t an option either considering by feats Konan was able to manipulate six hundred billion explosion notes in a span of 10 minutes straight.

The obito fight 600 billion feat is null and void considering she had prep. She can not create that many tags in a fight instantly so any feat related to that scene is useless in all vs fights unless stated otherwise.

Paper clones are too slow and are dealt with accordingly. Whether in paper firm or human form she still acts and is affected whether half and half or not. One paper that say reforms to her shoulder becomes her "body" thus she is instantly affected even if her bottom torso is paper mode. Similar to kakuzu, even though he showed no organs he still had blood, and a beating heart(s) thus was affected by hidan. Same with sasori and other freak like characters they still retain human downfalls that unless stated otherwise-apply.

Poison on her kills her unless it states she isn't human at all to begin with (like a water dragon isn't a real dragon but rather pure water).

 

[Draegod]

On phone so please excuse any rushed post/spelling thanks to auto correct.

 

[Null Man]

The obito fight 600 billion feat is null and void considering she had prep. She can not create that many tags in a fight instantly so any feat related to that scene is useless in all vs fights unless stated otherwise.

Paper clones are too slow and are dealt with accordingly. Whether in paper firm or human form she still acts and is affected whether half and half or not. One paper that say reforms to her shoulder becomes her "body" thus she is instantly affected even if her bottom torso is paper mode. Similar to kakuzu, even though he showed no organs he still had blood, and a beating heart(s) thus was affected by hidan. Same with sasori and other freak like characters they still retain human downfalls that unless stated otherwise-apply.

Poison on her kills her unless it states she isn't human at all to begin with (like a water dragon isn't a real dragon but rather pure water).

Prep only benefits Konan’s paper number and explosive capacity. It doesn’t affect or boost her chakra pool in any shape or form. Paper Person of a God Technique is restricted in the thread, and I'm only using Konan's canon feats without prep.

That's an incorrect analogy. Kakuzu hardens his skin via Domu not his whole body parts such as inner organs. While Konan's jutsu makes her

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paper. So the effect of any poison will be nullified since her body, insides and organs fully transform into paper.

On phone so please excuse any rushed post/spelling thanks to auto correct.

Don't worry about it.

 

[RedRobin]

Hanzo and Sakura fought? Hanzo and every other poison are all equal? Damn.... Oh wait! Kakuro who literally held his breathe went numb instantly and soon after collapsed? Yes! Kankuro indeed did not breathe it in yet was affected! But please show me scans of Sakura ever seeing hanzo ever.. I'll wait!

What makes you think he didnt breathe any in?

He was surprised to see poison meaning he didnt have the time to close his mouth plus characters were shown

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Unless it was ever stated it could poison someone through touch?

 

[Draegod]

Prep only benefits Konan’s paper number and explosive capacity. It doesn’t affect or boost her chakra pool in any shape or form. Paper Person of a God Technique is restricted in the thread, and I'm only using Konan's canon feats without prep.

That's an incorrect analogy. Kakuzu hardens his skin via Domu not his whole body parts such as inner organs. While Konan's jutsu makes her

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paper. So the effect of any poison will be nullified since her body, insides and organs fully transform into paper.



Don't worry about it.

Wasn't talking about domo, talking about the black strings (grudge tech) through out his body. Never mentioned nor hinted domu. Like konan kakuzu can make his inners pure black stuff (not human) yet he was still affected and had blood etc.

What makes you think he didnt breathe any in?

He was surprised to see poison meaning he didnt have the time to close his mouth plus characters were shown

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Unless it was ever stated it could poison someone through touch?

The ninjas who inhaled it were knocked out ASAP! Kankuro the only ninja shown to hold breath talk in head (thought bubbles) abd literally covered his mouth with hand (see manga) was affected simply by being in contact. We've seen what happens when you breathe it in and seen when in contact via skin.

Ps when you cough you don't inhale when consecutive coughs ( try it), do point stands based on manga and life facts

 

[Null Man]

Wasn't talking about domo, talking about the black strings (grudge tech) through out his body. Never mentioned nor hinted domu. Like konan kakuzu can make his inners pure black stuff (not human) yet he was still affected and had blood etc.

Jiongu is clearly different from Konan’s ninjutsu. The tentacles emerge from inside of Kakuzu’s body. They have little to no similarity to Konan's ability, which alters her body and organs entirely into paper sheets.

 

[RedRobin]

The ninjas who inhaled it were knocked out ASAP! Kankuro the only ninja shown to hold breath talk in head (thought bubbles) abd literally covered his mouth with hand (see manga) was affected simply by being in contact. We've seen what happens when you breathe it in and seen when in contact via skin.

Ps when you cough you don't inhale when consecutive coughs ( try it), do point stands based on manga and life facts

Just shows Kankuro is just tougher than an average ninja. He was surprised to to see gas plus it covered a good part of the forest so quickly, meaning he wouldnt have been able to close his mouth in time. If he saw the poison coming towards him then he would have ample time to close his mouth but since it came out of nowhere then there is no way he didnt inhale any.

 

[Draegod]

Just shows Kankuro is just tougher than an average ninja. He was surprised to to see gas plus it covered a good part of the forest so quickly, meaning he wouldnt have been able to close his mouth in time. If he saw the poison coming towards him then he would have ample time to close his mouth but since it came out of nowhere then there is no way he didnt inhale any.

You literally made no sense and nothing you stated has literally any proof. All assumptions that were never shown, yet it's fact poison if strong enough can be absorbed thru the skin. Plus the fact he had his mouth covered and talked in a thought bubble with mouth closed. If mouth was pre open then when the poison hit his mouth would stay open from being paralyzed (fact). You basically have baseless claims to the highest degree!

 

[RedRobin]

You literally made no sense and nothing you stated has literally any proof. All assumptions that were never shown, yet it's fact poison if strong enough can be absorbed thru the skin. Plus the fact he had his mouth covered and talked in a thought bubble with mouth closed. If mouth was pre open then when the poison hit his mouth would stay open from being paralyzed (fact). You basically have baseless claims to the highest degree!

Except its not fact that this poison can be absorbed through skin, that is a baseless assumption.

What are you even talking about we only see Kankuro's reaction after the poison has covered the forest. The fact is the poison came out of nowhere as he states himself meaning he had no time to not breathe any in.

 

[Curse Mark]

Just shows Kankuro is just tougher than an average ninja. He was surprised to to see gas plus it covered a good part of the forest so quickly, meaning he wouldnt have been able to close his mouth in time. If he saw the poison coming towards him then he would have ample time to close his mouth but since it came out of nowhere then there is no way he didnt inhale any.

Entirely speculation. All we see is him covering his mouth and nose. We don't know what he did to begin with.

 

[RedRobin]

Entirely speculation. All we see is him covering his mouth and nose. We don't know what he did to begin with.

We know he was completely blindsided by the poison which means he had to have inhaled some of it before closing his mouth.

 

[RedRobin]

Entirely speculation. All we see is him covering his mouth and nose. We don't know what he did to begin with.

You literally made no sense and nothing you stated has literally any proof. All assumptions that were never shown, yet it's fact poison if strong enough can be absorbed thru the skin. Plus the fact he had his mouth covered and talked in a thought bubble with mouth closed. If mouth was pre open then when the poison hit his mouth would stay open from being paralyzed (fact). You basically have baseless claims to the highest degree!

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Not to mention Hanzo states eat the poison and die. Salamander poison needs to be ingested.

@ Super yang as well since he likes disliking and not getting into the debate

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'breathing something in like that'

Nothing at all shows it is absorbed through skin.

 

[Curse Mark]

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Not to mention Hanzo states eat the poison and die. Salamander poison needs to be ingested.

@ Super yang as well since he like disliking and not getting into the debate

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'breathing something in like that'

Nothing at all shows it is absorbed through skin.

While i disagree entirely with your post about Kankuro, this actually uses what we can see. Mifune would've absorbed it through the skin.

 

[RedRobin]

While i disagree entirely with your post about Kankuro, this actually uses what we can see. Mifune would've absorbed it through the skin.

What?