Konan is objectively a terrible character

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Woah there solo king! Konan is great! Flamenerdrageinitated


This isn't a bash thread. I actually kind of like konan despite the facts I'll mention here. I guess I should say I like her optimistic nature anyway


Why konan is terribly written, condensed in bullet point form


•first off,she suffers from being a support to another minor character.that combined with her being a woman means that's shes incredibly one dimensional. her entire character revolves around nagato,a dude.a common theme in Naruto.


•perhaps the most important thing to note is her super deus ex paper jutsu and knowledge of obitos weakness. The more I think about this the less sense it makes.so obito has a 5 minute limit on kamui and no other character was able to figure that out?

Moreover,how does she figure it out? When did we ever see obito have to use kamui consecutively outside of they're fight?when was it ever even referenced that konan and obito were even involved in combat together?


So konan has this information she got out of nowhere,makes a deus ex jutsu to counter it..what..go back and read volume 54 and it will make even less sense

Also worth noting is that obito never has an inner dialogue about this at all.he doesn't confirm it to be true.so in fairness we can say it might has just been speculation


•BUT if konan knows this why in the hell would she not tell naruto.they could have defeated obito much easier


Konan is a badly written character
 
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Konan's characters more complex than that, Yahiko's death likely affected her as it did Nagato. As for the deus ex Machina, she's not the MC that generally wouldn't really apply to her. However how she figured out Tobi had a 5 minute limit without ever seeing him battle is a major problem. Setting a counter in this instance would fall under deus ex machina. And as you said the other issue is she didn't give them any info on Tobi/Madara and provide any intel she'd gathered.

This is Kishi's writing taking a nose dive and a serious one at that. Konoha/Naruto not going after her or getting intel from her shits on them as being ninja.
 
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She was happy in her position and where she wanted to be. To her, the peace that nagato could bring was the end all be all, she supported that to the very end. At least she wasn’t thirsty, her man died and she didn’t chase no one else.

As far as kamui knowledge, this is a vast world here, we don’t really know what they did together from the point they met obito till we see them a lot.
 

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She really had no reason to tell Naruto when she was confident that she was going to bring Obito down. And iirc.. she was sort of successful considering Obito used Izanagi right?
 

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She was happy in her position and where she wanted to be. To her, the peace that nagato could bring was the end all be all, she supported that to the very end. At least she wasn’t thirsty, her man died and she didn’t chase no one else.

As far as kamui knowledge, this is a vast world here, we don’t really know what they did together from the point they met obito till we see them a lot.
Fair enough but alot or characters pull information out of nowhere to give exposition

Like Yamato knowing hiradora

Or jiraya not knowing amaterasu but kakashi knowing what susanno was vs sasuke
 

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Fair enough but alot or characters pull information out of nowhere to give exposition

Like Yamato knowing hiradora

Or jiraya not knowing amaterasu but kakashi knowing what susanno was vs sasuke
Your right, but it happens a lot like you pointed out. Just random knowledge that pops out when they conveniently need it. Like I’m curious what situation Yamato saw hiradora now, THAT sounds interesting
 

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Your right, but it happens a lot like you pointed out. Just random knowledge that pops out when they conveniently need it. Like I’m curious what situation Yamato saw hiradora now, THAT sounds interesting
The 8 gates are known and it's likely Yamato being an ANBU would know about them. Guy is after all Konoha's Thai juts specialist. That can still be resolved but as OP pointed out the limit of Kamui wouldn't be known by Konan unless there was a battle which forced Tobi to use it. You'd think with Tobi being a key character they'd do a better job explaining the how instead of flash back to Konan's younger days.
 

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The 8 gates are known and it's likely Yamato being an ANBU would know about them. Guy is after all Konoha's Thai juts specialist. That can still be resolved but as OP pointed out the limit of Kamui wouldn't be known by Konan unless there was a battle which forced Tobi to use it. You'd think with Tobi being a key character they'd do a better job explaining the how instead of flash back to Konan's younger days.


Ehh idk about that. The leaf village is huge and has tons of jounin.also 8 gates knowledge was known almost exclusively to guy,Lee kakashi and ofc Madara. I can't remember many other characters having their level of knowledge about it.

Also I think that assumption is a stretch because I can't remember Yamato and gai ever actually having a conversation
 

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The 8 gates are known and it's likely Yamato being an ANBU would know about them. Guy is after all Konoha's Thai juts specialist. That can still be resolved but as OP pointed out the limit of Kamui wouldn't be known by Konan unless there was a battle which forced Tobi to use it. You'd think with Tobi being a key character they'd do a better job explaining the how instead of flash back to Konan's younger days.
That I can agree with, a flashback to her making the plan, or seeing kamui in action would of been way better than what we got
 

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Fair enough but alot or characters pull information out of nowhere to give exposition

Like Yamato knowing hiradora

Or jiraya not knowing amaterasu but kakashi knowing what susanno was vs sasuke
There was a period of time when obito was trying to convince nagato to join him...at the time. Yahiko was opposed, so that could've lead to him attacking obito to keep him away from Nagato.

kakashi knowing what susanno was vs sasuke= Gaara told him what happen at the Gokage summit and his encounter with Sasuke...who told Gaara Susanoo's name.

Think it was insinuated that Yamato went on missions with Gai.
 

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She barely had any screentime and when she did she amassed over 300 billion paper bombs and nearly killed the leader of the Akatsuki, she was happy standing by Yahiko and Nagato as opposed to leading.
 

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She was the worst of the orphans, reason being she got duped by tobirama/obito/madara and didn't help nagato when he needed the most help... She failed killing obito after weeks of preparation and simulations....didn't even help during the Konoha invasion or anything else. She wasn't even a match to jiraya so much for being the guardian angles of the hidden rain.....
 
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