KKG and Physical Strength

[JaphethCrenshaw]

Itachi notes that Uchiha's have higher physical strength than the average person, does this apply to every KKG user? It would explain why people couldn't contain Hashirama's cells.

It's obvious Uzumaki's and Senju's have higher physical strength than everyone so hold your horses on that one.

 

[Styles]

Uzumaki's physical strength isn't anything to write home about tho. Senju's do. And Itachi meant their physical energy to handle Sharingan. Something which Kakashi didn't have which was why he was always fatigued from using Sharingan.

 

[JaphethCrenshaw]

Uzumaki's physical strength isn't anything to write home about tho. Senju's do. And Itachi meant their physical energy to handle Sharingan. Something which Kakashi didn't have which was why he was always fatigued from using Sharingan.

That would still imply a higher amount of physical strength than the average person.

 

[Styles]

That would still imply a higher amount of physical strength than the average person.

Depends. Say Raikage had Sharingan. His eye would still drain him faster than it would an Uchiha even though he have tailed beasts chakra reserves since his body isn't compatible with the eye.

 

[Yang release]

Well you need to have the accustomed stamina and strength to deal with the sharingan, and it's in their blood so they have a body that can withstand that

 

[Erotic L]

Stronger chakra, implying the quality. That's special requirement to wield the eyes.

 

[Melanin]

Senju's had the physical attributes I thought.

 

[Greatness23]

Itachi notes that Uchiha's have higher physical strength than the average person, does this apply to every KKG user? It would explain why people couldn't contain Hashirama's cells.

It's obvious Uzumaki's and Senju's have higher physical strength than everyone so hold your horses on that one.

Cant say for sure, but it is a fact that the Uchiha can match anyone, strength and ability wise. I mean, Sasuke fights (Itachi did too, however lil) on par, blow for blow while Naruto is in his nine tails cloak. Uchiha solo

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Nagato was an uzumaki and he handled the dual rinnegan quite efficiently while Obito an uchiha enhanced with Hashi DNA was able to handle only one at a time.

Uzumaki physical strength = Senju physical strength >>>>>>> Uchiha physical strength.

 

[YellowFang]

Compatible chakra for Sharingan wielding, nothing else...

Others don't have that, hence it takes more stamina out of them.

 

[Styles]

Nagato was an uzumaki and he handled the dual rinnegan quite efficiently while Obito an uchiha enhanced with Hashi DNA was able to handle only one at a time.

Uzumaki physical strength = Senju physical strength >>>>>>> Uchiha physical strength.

Manga already said why Nagato could control Rinnegan was because of him being of Senju lineage brate. He's the only one with Senju chakra and Uzumaki life force.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Manga already said why Nagato could control Rinnegan was because of him being of Senju lineage brate. He's the only one with Senju chakra and Uzumaki life force.

Sure brate if you say so.
So lets do the calculations again, Obito was an uchiha and had an ashura transmigrant's DNA who was also the greatest senju ever. With all that he was able to control only one rinnegan.
Now Nagato was an uzumaki with lets assume a random senju parent. So he had uzumaki chakra + some random senju chakra (not Hashi's ofc) and yet he was able to control dual rinnegan quite comfortably. I hope you can do rest of the calculations.

And again Uzumaki strength = Senju strength >>>>>>>> Uchiha strength

 

[JaphethCrenshaw]

Sure brate if you say so.
So lets do the calculations again, Obito was an uchiha and had an ashura transmigrant's DNA who was also the greatest senju ever. With all that he was able to control only one rinnegan.
Now Nagato was an uzumaki with lets assume a random senju parent. So he had uzumaki chakra + some random senju chakra (not Hashi's ofc) and yet he was able to control dual rinnegan quite comfortably. I hope you can do rest of the calculations.

And again Uzumaki strength = Senju strength >>>>>>>> Uchiha strength

Honestly, the fact that Obito could only control one Rinnegan was bogus. Nagato comes form a blood-line of watered down Asura DNA while Obito has the cells of Hashirama himself; an incarnate of Asura. There's no reason as to why Obito shouldn't have been able to use the two eyes.

The reason he didn't use it was because it was far more ideal to keep Kamui than throw it aside if he could already accomplish so much with just ONE Rinnegan.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Honestly, the fact that Obito could only control one Rinnegan was bogus. Nagato comes form a blood-line of watered down Asura DNA while Obito has the cells of Hashirama himself; an incarnate of Asura. There's no reason as to why Obito shouldn't have been able to use the two eyes.

The reason he didn't use it was because it was far more ideal to keep Kamui than throw it aside if he could already accomplish so much with just ONE Rinnegan.

Sure deny manga facts.

 

[Styles]

Sure brate if you say so.
So lets do the calculations again, Obito was an uchiha and had an ashura transmigrant's DNA who was also the greatest senju ever. With all that he was able to control only one rinnegan.
Now Nagato was an uzumaki with lets assume a random senju parent. So he had uzumaki chakra + some random senju chakra (not Hashi's ofc) and yet he was able to control dual rinnegan quite comfortably. I hope you can do rest of the calculations.

And again Uzumaki strength = Senju strength >>>>>>>> Uchiha strength

Difference. Obito had Hashirama's DNA mixed inside of a Zetsu which didn't have Ashura's power anymore as Hashirama was dead. That DNA enabled him to be able to use the mazo. Also never had time to get use to it.

Nagato already was stated to be the only person other than Madara that could control and use Rinnegan. Nagato got use to it over the year's as he was passing out after only 1 use of its abilities. Manga made it perfectly clear that it was Nagato's Senju lineage that enabled him to use Rinnegan.

Last part is fanfic.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Difference. Obito had Hashirama's DNA mixed inside of a Zetsu which didn't have Ashura's power anymore as Hashirama was dead. That DNA enabled him to be able to use the mazo. Also never had time to get use to it.

Lol wrong, Hashirama being dead or alive has nothing to do with it. His DNA will always produce the same chakra. But anyway Ashura's power or not Hashi's DNA still allowed Obito to use even mokuton. His chakra was still stronger than any other senju and Obito had 14 years to get used to it lol so that argument doesn't hold true either.

Nagato already was stated to be the only person other than Madara that could control and use Rinnegan. Nagato got use to it over the year's as he was passing out after only 1 use of its abilities. Manga made it perfectly clear that it was Nagato's Senju lineage that enabled him to use Rinnegan.

Last part is fanfic.

Obito with his uchiha chakra + Hashi's chakra wasn't able to handle dual rinnegans while Nagato with some random senju chakra combined with uzumaki chakra handled dual rinnegan quite easily. Nuff said.

 

[SenseiSama]

No it applies to Uchiha because their potent chakra comes from JJ Hagoromo. Even if their Yang is lower than Ashura's descendants it's still above the rest of NV hence due to Hago's strong Yang affinity. Part of the reason Uchiha can use Sharingan naturally is because they have the body for it.