Kishimoto's Style of Storytelling pt.2

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remember when i made that thread explaining kishi's style of story telling is borderline trollish... remember when i said he was trolling the tobito fans? well i was wrong. he troll the more sophisticated members of his fanbase, those who believed that Tobi was someone other then Obito. me personally i thought that he was somehow still Madara Uchiha, i would have excepted him to be Izuna Uchiha, it would have made a great interesting story if he was Kagami Uchiha, hell i wouldnt even had been mad if it was Evil Sasuke Uchiha from the future but this...... this.... Tobi being Obito?

fuq Kishi..... its official that One Piece is waaay better then Naruto. chapter 599 most controversal Naruto chapter ever..

and to those who say Naruto has better plot and story telling then DBZ, DBZ would have never pulled some trollish plot twist like this....

Kishi you destroyed 10-12+ years of work with this chapter.... your credibility as a manga creator is shot...
 
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There is more to this story, read between the lines. I do not think Obito is the same Obiti he was then. Also it doesn;t explain how he knew to summon the kyuubi or that naruto's mom's seal would weaken at childbirth. There is a connection with madara that has yet to be revealed.

Why go on a rampage with not all information availlable??? :O
 

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remember when i made that thread explaining kishi's style of story telling is borderline trollish... remember when i said he was trolling the tobito fans? well i was wrong. he troll the more sophisticated members of his fanbase, those who believed that Tobi was someone other then Obito. me personally i thought that he was somehow still Madara Uchiha, i would have excepted him to be Izuna Uchiha, it would have made a great interesting story if he was Kagami Uchiha, hell i wouldnt even had been mad if it was Evil Sasuke Uchiha from the future but this...... this.... Tobi being Obito?

fuq Kishi..... its official that One Piece is waaay better then Naruto. chapter 599 most controversal Naruto chapter ever..

and to those who say Naruto has better plot and story telling then DBZ, DBZ would have never pulled some trollish plot twist like this....

Kishi you destroyed 10-12+ years of work with this chapter.... your credibility as a manga creator is shot...
DBZ was ****ed up the moment gohan didnt surpass goku so hush child, tobi is obito, and obito's back baby, in yo grill son, and by the way the story actually makes sense, ur just a hater :ice:
 

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There is more to this story, read between the lines. I do not think Obito is the same Obiti he was then. Also it doesn;t explain how he knew to summon the kyuubi or that naruto's mom's seal would weaken at childbirth. There is a connection with madara that has yet to be revealed.

Why go on a rampage with not all information availlable??? :O
there is no story or backstory or flashback or explanation or talk no jutsu that can justify this mess

DBZ was ****ed up the moment gohan didnt surpass goku so hush child, tobi is obito, and obito's back baby, in yo grill son, and by the way the story actually makes sense, ur just a hater :ice:
i agree, Gohan should have taken center stage after the cell games but that doesnt top the stupidity of making Tobi Obito... thats beyond retardation.... its too simple. it has too many holes... its not interesting and its a very frustrating conclusion... you are part of the minor, idiotic, uchihatard, tobito fanbase and/or bandwagoning group of people that have been ridiculed for even thinking this would happen and irony has it that it has happen that you guys are right....

the world is unfair..... kishi is truly a troll..
 

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Who gives a **** goddamn!
i do

LOL another person whos butt hurt for no reason. Their were clues given through out the chapters yet you people deny it. Just calm down. So what if he is Obito,that doesn't change the fact that he's the villain in the story.

Again calm down U_U
no....

there were clues only in the last few chapters but then again it could have been possible that Tobi took Obitos eye from his gravesite or place that he died. it didnt have to be Obito. there were more clues that Tobi was Madara...

i wish chapter 599 would have been ya sig

It's most likely a different Obito, if that even makes sense.
no that doesnt.....
 

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I don't know why it is so trollish, it is more interesting if it was someone who used to be good than someone who was just evil anyway, come on, don't go as low as to say DBZ's storytelling is better than Naruto, calm down and think rationally, you know that isn't true. I think it wasn't the most creative option so I didn't expect it but it's not bad, just wait for the explanation before you start raging.
 

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remember when i made that thread explaining kishi's style of story telling is borderline trollish... remember when i said he was trolling the tobito fans? well i was wrong. he troll the more sophisticated members of his fanbase, those who believed that Tobi was someone other then Obito. me personally i thought that he was somehow still Madara Uchiha, i would have excepted him to be Izuna Uchiha, it would have made a great interesting story if he was Kagami Uchiha, hell i wouldnt even had been mad if it was Evil Sasuke Uchiha from the future but this...... this.... Tobi being Obito?

fuq Kishi..... its official that One Piece is waaay better then Naruto. chapter 599 most controversal Naruto chapter ever..

and to those who say Naruto has better plot and story telling then DBZ, DBZ would have never pulled some trollish plot twist like this....

Kishi you destroyed 10-12+ years of work with this chapter.... your credibility as a manga creator is shot...
fully agree to this...

the only happy people now, are the slow brains obito fans, or 10-13 years old people...

What about people reading this ****ing manga over 10 years now ?
 

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I don't know why it is so trollish, it is more interesting if it was someone who used to be good than someone who was just evil anyway, come on, don't go as low as to say DBZ's storytelling is better than Naruto, calm down and think rationally, you know that isn't true. I think it wasn't the most creative option so I didn't expect it but it's not bad, just wait for the explanation before you start raging.
Kishi cant explain his way out of this.... the whole chapter is messed up... first off Minato was hokage after Obito died but in chapter 599 Minato's face is showned in the kage mountain thing.. his face wasnt there during night Tobi attacked him with Kyuubi...

Obito is not older then Konan, Yahiko or Nagato and he says he gave Nagato the rinnegan. how does Obito know so much about the leaf history? about the sage?

what is his motive for this war, trying to destroy the leaf and causing the death of his sensei the 4th?

plot holes everywhere, watch where you step.

Yeah. I almost wanted to quit reading Naruto. Let's see how Kishi will explain this all.
im debating whether i should quit too but after such a long time i have to see it through...

fully agree to this...

the only happy people now, are the slow brains obito fans, or 10-13 years old people...

What about people reading this ****ing manga over 10 years now ?
10 years ..... wasted.......
 
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Agree completely man. And to whoever says "OMG it's just a manga/cartoon why are you so worked up." Why are we worked up? Maybe because some of us aren't little 14 year old kids and have been reading the manga for 10+ years and have spent a lot of our life reading this manga, only to be annoyed by all the plot holes and everything else that is wrong with tobi being obito.

Maybe because it annoys us that Kishi doesn't even read or remember what he wrote in the past in his own ****ing manga. Seriously, Minato's face on the monument when Obito is alive? How does Kishi make this error? Like WTF? Kakashi being in the same chuunin exams as Obito? Kakashi was a chuunin at like 6, that is in Kishi's own databooks, yet here we have kakashi in the same exams as obito. How does he **** up this much? SO many more plot holes but we all know them anyway so whatever.

So that's why we are annoyed, it is bullshit. And it isn't just a random "cartoon", it's been part of our lives for 10+ years for some of us. Just because something is a "cartoon" doesn't mean you can't express feeling towards it.
 
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Kishi cant explain his way out of this.... the whole chapter is messed up... first off Minato was hokage after Obito died but in chapter 599 Minato's face is showned in the kage mountain thing.. his face wasnt there during night Tobi attacked him with Kyuubi...

Obito is not older then Konan, Yahiko or Nagato and he says he gave Nagato the rinnegan. how does Obito know so much about the leaf history? about the sage?

what is his motive for this war, trying to destroy the leaf and causing the death of his sensei the 4th?

plot holes everywhere, watch where you step.

The Minato thing was probably a mistake, the other things can be explained.

  • The one who gave Nagato the rinnegan was Madara, Tobi was speaking as Madara when he did it. Madara even knows about Nagato, he called him a brat so he knows him
    • We have to wait for next week before we realise his motives, how will we know if we just found out he was alive.
    • Madara could have taught him how to use the sharingan well, Obito is older than Itachi so could have taught him around the time of the massacre like he said. It was a year between his "death" and the Kyuubi attack so that makes sense too.
    • Kishi has known about Obito being Tobi for a while, he gave us hints during his fight with Minato with the Zetsu arm, he would have an explanation for the mistakes in this part of the story for definite
 
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