[Theory] Kishimoto's Opinion about Sasuke

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Whose faith and whose truth? Mine, yours, someone elses? These are still subject to perspective.


Let me add to that, its also a subject of knowledge. (As shown with Sasuke) Your views may alter depending on the knowledge you have.

 

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Some say Sasuke is a evil criminal, some says he isn't. Most said Madara was a villain, yet Hashirama states that he is not. As Itachi said, "good" and "evil" are concepts created by humans to separate each other. Naturally they have no real meaning, they only have the meaning that we place in them. Thus no one is really "good" or "evil", everyone is "neutral" and follows their own ideals and goals.



i never said madara was a good guy nor did i say he was a villain guy..i just said he is the TRUE GUY.......in the inifnit tsukoyomi there shall be no relative concept but only one truth.......Madara's only mistake is that he is atheist......in other words the infinit tsukoyomi is the athesit version of the afterlife....
 

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Sasuke isn't evil. It's just NB are band-wagoning knuckle-heads for Nardo, so they call Sauce a villain. Fact is Sasuke is one of the few people in the NV that sees the real problem with their world: It has an outdated social model. The village system doesn't work, as shown by the results of the series. Nardo is a naive kid that believes in the past, he may have good intentions. But good intentions don't always work out in the real world.

Reply: Tobidara theory... My opinion is Madara will come back. But it won't have much to do with Tobi. Madara seemed to use Izanagi or Izanami when he was "dying". Also, I doubt Madz wants his body being taken by the alliance.
 

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i never said madara was a good guy nor did i say he was a villain guy..i just said he is the TRUE GUY.......in the inifnit tsukoyomi there shall be no relative concept but only one truth.......Madara's only mistake is that he is atheist......in other words the infinit tsukoyomi is the athesit version of the afterlife....


If the Mugen Tsukuyomi had been activated then everyone in the world would have been turned into White Zetsus that only follow orders. In other words, the world would die. That is no a solution, that is like killing of the world to clean all "evil" from it. Where there is "evil" there is "good". You cannot remove either one without removing both. (That is where Madara failed) Madara isn't a "true" person, he is a one-minded person fighting for his own ideals of "good".

 

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They don't need Naruto to end the mugen tsukuyomi. He can die, and the movie is confirmed as non-cannon. The other 5 movies also have not been cannon. (Remember the one where Naruto met the 4th Hokage, but in the series didn't recognize him?)
 

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If the Mugen Tsukuyomi had been activated then everyone in the world would have been turned into White Zetsus that only follow orders. In other words, the world would die. That is no a solution, that is like killing of the world to clean all "evil" from it. Where there is "evil" there is "good". You cannot remove either one without removing both. (That is where Madara failed) Madara isn't a "true" person, he is a one-minded person fighting for his own ideals of "good".


let me correct you something : Madara's true plan isn't the infinit tsukoyomi...th infinit tukoyomi was kaguya's idea....What madara designed is called the "DREAMWORLD"....first he is gonna cast IT ..then he will drag all poeple inside huge genjutsu dimension..where only eternel happiness exists = THE ATHEIST VERSION OF PARADIZE...
 

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let me correct you something : Madara's true plan isn't the infinit tsukoyomi...th infinit tukoyomi was kaguya's idea....What madara designed is called the "DREAMWORLD"....first he is gonna cast IT ..then he will drag all poeple inside huge genjutsu dimension..where only eternel happiness exists = THE ATHEIST VERSION OF PARADIZE...


Madara said that inside the Mugen Tsukuyomi, true peace would exist. That is the Genjutsu, that is the paradise which he spoke of. (What you said was a fairytale and fanfiction you've created.) Here:

In that panel, Madara states that he will use the moon instead of his eyes to create a Genjutsu world. That is the Mugen Tsukuyomi plan that he used and which he got from the stone tablet created by Hagoromo and altered by Black Zetsu.

 

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naruto keeps frogiving top class criminels , he even consider them cool guys.....this is the evilness itself

If Naruto killed "top class criminals" he would be a killer. He forgives because that is his ideal, solve things by dialogue, try to understand the other by being in their shoes.​


I want to do something about it, but I don’t know what. But I believe that someday will come when people will truly understand one another. - Jiraiya


Jiraya was his master.
Taught him to grasp the concept of peace and understanding.​
 
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Madara said that inside the Mugen Tsukuyomi, true peace would exist. That is the Genjutsu, that is the paradise which he spoke of. (What you said was a fairytale and fanfiction you've created.) Here:

In that panel, Madara states that he will use the moon instead of his eyes to create a Genjutsu world. That is the Mugen Tsukuyomi plan that he used and which he got from the stone tablet created by Hagoromo and altered by Black Zetsu.



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As always Minamoto, you are wrong beyond stupidity. Let me explain.

Madara says that he and Obito are now within the Genjutsu, but that its blank, however with the power of the Gedo he can create anything within this Genjutsu. He also states that this white space is the dream world he will create for everyone, so he says:

The white space is the dream world.
The white space is the Genjutsu.

That means they are the same. He wanted to "drag" people into it by using the Moon as a eye to cast the Genjutsu on everyone and using the Shinju to keep them all alive. Though he didn't know that it would kill them as that part was left out of the tablet by Black Zetsu.

 

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If Naruto killed "top class criminals" he would be a killer. He forgives because that is his ideal, solve things by dialogue, try to understand the other by being in their shoes.​



Jiraya was his master.
Taught him to grasp the concept of peace and understanding.​


if naruto killed top class criminels he would be called a hero who established justice

-jiraiya spent his life fvcking ladies and driking alcohole becuz he knew that this world is ****ed up with its complexities...

-PRAIZE LORD MADARA WHO SHOULDRED EVERYTHING BY HIMSELF!
 

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if naruto killed top class criminels he would be called a hero who established justice

-jiraiya spent his life fvcking ladies and driking alcohole becuz he knew that this world is ****ed up with its complexities...

-PRAIZE LORD MADARA WHO SHOULDRED EVERYTHING BY HIMSELF!


Madara shouldered everything alone? He relayed on;

- Obito
- Zetsu
- Black Zetsu
- Nagato

I can hardly call that "alone".

 

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Madara shouldered everything alone? He relayed on;

- Obito
- Zetsu
- Black Zetsu
- Nagato

I can hardly call that "alone".





Facepalm.... Madara used them like pawn ...he never relayed on them ..
 

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They don't need Naruto to end the mugen tsukuyomi. He can die, and the movie is confirmed as non-cannon. The other 5 movies also have not been cannon. (Remember the one where Naruto met the 4th Hokage, but in the series didn't recognize him?)

...i couldn't PM you..dude do you have skype?...we must talk....
 

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if naruto killed top class criminels he would be called a hero who established justice

-jiraiya spent his life fvcking ladies and driking alcohole becuz he knew that this world is ****ed up with its complexities...

-PRAIZE LORD MADARA WHO SHOULDRED EVERYTHING BY HIMSELF!
You are forgetting there are always two sides to the same story.

Naruto could be called a killer or a hero by us, the readers, the spectators of everything. The ones that interpret and give a sense to things are us, not anyone else.

Madara is irrelevant at this point in time. His character at the moment only serves as a reference for the future generations to learn from the past mistakes.
 

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Facepalm.... Madara used them like pawn ...he never relayed on them ..


Had it not been for them, Madara would never have returned... That is relying on them.

 
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