Kishimoto's brilliant paradox of time and speed (no troll topic)

[BerryDerange]

I loving how virtually each and everything ranging from last arc to this arc was introduced altogether. It was like sublimation; it advanced to the next stages of Naruto in order to reveal the true threat, the one unknown to the heroes. Madara as FV was a red herring , and the apparitions of the first ninja were an heralding of an unpredecented omen, which needed immediate addressing.

-Madara's fodderizing of everyone including bijus/rushed
-Madara's relentless counter attacks and elevations/rushed
-Madara's triumph for his eyes and sealing of bijus / rushed
-Guy opening the eight gates/ rushed
-Naruto and Sasuke's powerups / rushed
-Kaguya's intervention/rushed
-Madara casting the IT /rushed
-his death? (He doesn't die here, it was rushed on purpose because he'll be back)/ rushed



I know those are considered rushed but that's because you are missing the bigger picture. The promixity of these were not Kishimoto rushing the manga, but in actuality, because Naruto and Sasuke learning of the true imminent who they weren't aware of must have been extremely dire, and time seamlessly moved faster. It fits well with how agile and swift the Hagaromo was able to bring naruto and Sasuke up to speed and untested powers in time before Kaguya, which was being accelerated by another force (black Zestu).

It was fate which was moving in a greater speed and perceived to the main characters as an advent ominous predestined danger coming closer and faster every minute (every chapter for us)

Edit: read my first comment in this thread to see my thoughts on the reasoning behind Kaguya reveal

Edit:

TLR version;
the perception of time is moving faster, because the predestined danger was gradually becoming imminent with Madara's increase in power and the two main characters deaths.

Now, given the premise, time was ostensibly exhibiting to have been rushing itself every time Madara obtained power. It first was moved to fulfil his plan finally, time moved faster and it has done so by making everything go according to fate (madara effortlessly fodderizing and their deaths) . Perfect paradox of time

 

[Sonne2]

well hagaromo came to them just in the nick of time.


nice bobobobobobo avi

 

[BerryDerange]

Also just wanted to say, if kaguya was introduced in any other way, it would have been contrived or terrible. This paradox of time allows for a great threat to be revealed in short notice.

 

[BerryDerange]

BTW no troll thread, troll you later when I am bored. I will be able to discuss my theory here with you guys

 

[Hexuze]

Meh, I've seen better.

 

[BerryDerange]

TLR version;
the perception of time is moving faster, because the predestined danger was gradually becoming imminent with Madara's increase in power and the two main characters deaths

 

[Joseph Gomes]

Fodara is dead. Black Zetsu did everything, Madara was just a puppet. Get over this fact. Madara has nothing to do with the manga anymore except for 1/2 flashbacks

 

[BerryDerange]

Meh, I've seen better.

Sorry, will edit op

TLR version;
the perception of time is moving faster, because the predestined danger was gradually becoming imminent with Madara's increase in power and the two main characters deaths.

Now, given the premise, time was ostensibly exhibiting to have been rushing itself every time Madara obtained power. It first was moved to fulfil his plan finally, time moved faster and it has done so by making everything go according to fate (madara effortlessly fodderizing and their deaths) . Perfect paradox of time

 

[ChocolateVanilla]

So you're saying that Naruto and Sasuke will die?
That would butcher the theme of the manga, and Naruto's dream of becoming Hokage would be shattered.

 

[Lightbringer]

I don't get your point. How is this a paradox?

 

[BerryDerange]

Fodara is dead. Black Zetsu did everything, Madara was just a puppet. Get over this fact. Madara has nothing to do with the manga anymore except for 1/2 flashbacks

You unfortunately did not comprehend a thing given that the proposition wasn't about him.

 

[BerryDerange]

I don't get your point. How is this a paradox?

Time forwarding itself, through the perception of those entwined with fate. Everything is going according to fate so time can speed up and only those who are effected by it only are the one who can keep up.

 

[BerryDerange]

So you're saying that Naruto and Sasuke will die?
That would butcher the theme of the manga, and Naruto's dream of becoming Hokage would be shattered.

Reread it again lol

 

[ChocolateVanilla]

Reread it again lol

Makes more sense now, but I never believed that either of them died, more like they were revived from a Coma.

 

[SageOfTheTenPaths]

Nah, the timings are way off!

 

[Lightbringer]

Time forwarding it's self, but it's only by the perception of those entwined with fate. Everything is going according to fate so time can speed up and only those who are effected by it only are the one who can keep up.

That honestly makes no sense. If fate exists, everyone's entwined by it, not just the protagonists.

How is time forwarding itself? You need valid examples. Saying that something is rushed isn't an example.

Complex explanations for something simple usually means it's not true.

 

[BerryDerange]

I make a non troll thread out of the leisure time I am bored with, and nothing to respond to yet. You guys must just read naruto one dimensionally like other mangas. No wonder it gets one and twos each week lol

 

[BerryDerange]

That honestly makes no sense. If fate exists, everyone's entwined by it, not just the protagonists.

How is time forwarding itself? You need valid examples. Saying that something is rushed isn't an example.

Complex explanations for something simple usually means it's not true.

No, it was Madara's fate to become ultra powerful and implode into Kaguya. It was naruto and Sasuke's fate to fight kaguya. Sasuke make this clear already, the rest don't matter there. They were the only ones brought to speed of what's happening while Sakura and Kakashi are still in a daze. My point is everything which was rushed was because of fate moving time, to have Naruto and Sasuke who died out of nowhere, receive power ups to be ready to fight Kaguya not madara. Everything regarding madara's transition to power was rushed to become Kaguya, because if not then their power ups would be meaningless. Madara was never the FV, it was foreshadowed by the rapid rate in time. Their power ups were imminent as well from the start but had to be rushed by a sudden death (fate) to prepare for kaguya.

 

[Lightbringer]

No, it was Madara's fate to become ultra powerful and implode into Kaguya. It was naruto and Sasuke's fate to fight kaguya. Sasuke make this clear already, the rest don't matter there. They were the only ones brought to speed of what's happening while Sakura and Kakashi are still in a daze. My point is everything which was rushed was because of fate moving time, to have Naruto and Sasuke who died out of nowhere, receive power ups to be ready to fight Kaguya not madara. Everything regarding madara's transition to power was rushed to become Kaguya, because if not then their power ups would be meaningless. Madara was never the FV, it was foreshadowed by the rapid rate in time. Their power ups were imminent as well from the start but had to be rushed by a sudden death (fate) to prepare for kaguya.

I disagree. It was poorly written, but it wasn't rushed.

We perceive time differently when reading the manga, and only so much could be conveyed through one chapter.

When you watch the anime, time is flushed out.

 

[Sonne2]

snickering at the thought of madara transforming into a harmless squirrel