KISHIMOTO you sneaky little troll. (TOBI)

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

already read this from owarij thread a few months ago

 

[BasedNaruto]

Loved the Theory. I think Tobi does have a MS, I wouldn't understand if it is Izuna? But it's Naruto, and at this point anything can happen.

+Rep

 

[akamo]

It got to be ms.rep to u.

 

[MarkPaul]

Very nice!

 

[Rozzy]

I think that was just the 3 tomoe spinning man

 

[MrLukyso]

No he doesn't have the MS, if he would have it he would've shown us a long time ago, Tobi is not Izuna, PEACE.

 

[Zatanna]

People can find things to connect anything if they look hard enough. Im not knocking you, its a good theory, and work put in. But Just saying, It could be anything, a mis scan or slip what ever. People can connect anything with everything some times.

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

izuna is dead. similar MS with you fake-drawing in more lines does not izuna make. madara confirmed his brother is dead.

 

[HakkeKoshu]

The 'MS' looks about ten times more like Madaras than Izunas.

 

[lubricati0n]

I don't know why everyone here is missing the flaws. Izuna had his eyes transplanted to create Madara's EMS. You can't un-transplant a set of eyes.

Not to mention the OP drew in those lines..every is just too gullible.

 

[HakkeKoshu]

I don't know why everyone here is missing the flaws. Izuna had his eyes transplanted to create Madara's EMS. You can't un-transplant a set of eyes.

Not to mention the OP drew in those lines..every is just too gullible.

Transplant eyes to brother,creating EMS.
Transplant back,another EMS gets created (with focus on izunas ms pattern)
Transplant back again (and again?) = profit. :|

Everythings possible in a manga.

 

[croispain]

does no 1 else seem to think the brother merely traded eyes??.... why does it have 2 be that you steal your sibs eyes..i can see them having traded and the story bin ****ed up along the way

 

[Nidaime Pupil]

Wow wtf dude YOU did the editing okay at first I also thought wow maybe he's onto something and it could be Izuna but NO YOU did the editing this is the truth.

In the first panel it is a 3 tomie sharingan that is "zoomed in". This to show the pupil is dilated and thus being controlled. nOt sure if you'll understand this.

Then it is "zoomed out" to show the 3 tomoed then back to Kurama's normal.

You said two different things you said 1. was being not controlled, then controlled, then back to normal THen you said 2. It went from Ms to normal 3 tomoe then back to normal - this is an interesting idea but again You did the editing so it is just a dilated pupil.

 

[|KirA|]

Transplant eyes to brother,creating EMS.
Transplant back,another EMS gets created (with focus on izunas ms pattern)
Transplant back again (and again?) = profit. :|

Everythings possible in a manga.

so true^^ +rep

 

[Bloody Temari]

I guess Tobi does have MS how else could he have extinquished Itachis Amaterasu on him?

 

[hiitz]

looks like itachis MS

 

[Houdinii]

No he doesn't have the MS, if he would have it he would've shown us a long time ago, Tobi is not Izuna, PEACE.

Since when is being able to suck your body and other people into another dimension a normal sharingan technique?

And seriously guys the OP was just giving an example of what the MS might look like, it could be anything

 

[novacore]

I guess Tobi does have MS how else could he have extinquished Itachis Amaterasu on him?

he did not extinguish it. he regrew his arm with zetsu cells.

 

[Furtuna]

who's ms does this look like?

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izunas! on the left side of the panel his ms matches perfectly ( not saying tobi is izuna ) just giving a example. you thougts?:scorps:

most credit goes to my boy owarij, since he inspired me to make this thread, i just did this to shed some light on some plp who think tobi still has 3tomeo.

btw im not saying its izuna or izuna ms or watever im just using the edited kurama eye as a example just to make it clear to some plp . the point of the edited eye is too put some light on tobi's ms.

Hey, wait a minute! In second picture the one standing in front is Madara. So Kurama's eyes has turned to something like Madara's MS, and so you can say Tobi's MS looks like Madara's. I'm sure about it because Izuna has wrinkles like Itachi under his eyes Madara's face is as clear as Sasuke.

Here is a big Madara MS!

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[squigles]

Here's the thing. I approve of any sound theory that suggests Izuna is Tobi. It makes a lot of sense that Tobi's real identity is Izuna, because it fits many different plot angles and the general timeline of the manga and what we know about Tobi.

That said, Tobi does not have MS when he summons Kurama to attack Konoha, because roughly 65 years before, Izuna gave his MS to Madara, so he could unlock EMS.

Here's a shot of Edo Madara's EMS technique.

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From what we know about eye transplants, the recipient cannot revert the current state to a previous state to the one that the eye was in upon transplant. Since both Tobi and Nagato both rock permanent Rinnegan, that's the form that they were transplanted in, so between the time that Izuna gave Madara his MS, and the time that Tobi acquired Madara's Rinnegan, there was no MS for him to have.

If he had the Rinnegan eyes in his head at the time he attacked Konoha, then Kurama's eyes would have shown to be Rinnegan, instead of a normal sharingan or an MS.

Since Tobi has only ever displayed a normal Sharingan prior to when he brings the Jinchuuriki into battle, it's safe to say that at the time he attacked Konoha, he was controlling Kurama with a normal Sharingan.

If you look closely at your picture, Kurama's eye looks like a Sharingan that is extremely dilated, and not like MS at all.

Now, I am glad that you came up with this theory, because it gave me a reason to look at Edo Madara's MS, which is strangely, the SAME as Izuna's MS.

So if Madara took Izuna's MS to replace his own, why didn't it turn out to be a new MS design? Sasuke's MS looks entirely different than Itachi's MS, and when he took Itachi's eyes, it looks different again, but nothing like Itachi's MS.

So in my eyes, Kishi ****ed up on accident, and put the wrong MS in Madara's eyes, or he put the wrong MS in Sasuke's eyes, or it's intentional and changes the story completely.

What if instead of both Madara and Izuna awakening their MS, as the story goes, only Izuna awakened MS? What if Madara was jealous? What if Madara murdered Izuna so he could take his MS? What if Izuna really ISN'T Tobi, because Izuna would never forgive Madara for killing him?

What if Madara never really did awaken EMS?

A lot of what ifs, that could completely change the story.