Kishimoto nerfed Sasuke with Perfect Susanoo.

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Good job using filler.
Sasuke's Susano'o was smashed by Kaguya twice in canon... Sasuke even said "Not even Susano'o works." I don't see how it's "using filler" to state that Kaguya melted Sasuke's Susano'o. Even in the current anime episode, the "filler" action doesn't show exactly how Kaguya destroyed Sasuke's Susano'o.
 

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Sasuke didnt negg Sword of Nunoboku. It was Jugo+Naruto+Kyuubi+Sasuke barely cracking Sword of Nunoboku due to Obitos broken will
 

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Not really Madara had years developing his techniques with Susano'o/PS he was mid 30s or so when he fought Hashirama. Sasuke at half his age had PS and his wasn't even in his prime and was gonna surpass Madara at age 17.
I don't think the number of years of experience would have given him the same level of power as Madara, imo EMS Sasuke inherited Indra's ninjutsu talent while Madara inherited mastery over Susano'o.

I think with years of experience EMS Sasuke would have been able to combine his raiton with enton weapons, but the size and power of his Susano'o still wouldn't be near Madara's because those were MS feats he didn't inherit.

Think about it, every Uchiha with MS has their own ability but Madara never used a ninjutsu like Sasuke nor genjutsu like Itachi or S/t like Obito, but what he displayed was complete mastery over Susano'o unlike the other Uchiha.

He was capable of enhancing his ninjutsu with Susano'o which Sasuke never displayed until he had Rikudou chakra, and the sword his avatar used was special enough to have a name, it carried enough power to casually bust mountains which again Sasuke never displayed until he had a Sharingan powered by the same chakra Indra had.

I think the author was suggesting that Madara inherited Indra's ability to use Susano'o while Sasuke inherited Indra's ability to use ninjutsu. And it would make sense that Indra's feats were divided amongst his transmigrants because Ashura's feats also happened to be divided between Senju and Uzumaki.
 

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I don't think the number of years of experience would have given him the same level of power as Madara, imo EMS Sasuke inherited Indra's ninjutsu talent while Madara inherited mastery over Susano'o.

I think with years of experience EMS Sasuke would have been able to combine his raiton with enton weapons, but the size and power of his Susano'o still wouldn't be near Madara's because those were MS feats he didn't inherit.

Think about it, every Uchiha with MS has their own ability but Madara never used a ninjutsu like Sasuke nor genjutsu like Itachi or S/t like Obito, but what he displayed was complete mastery over Susano'o unlike the other Uchiha.

He was capable of enhancing his ninjutsu with Susano'o which Sasuke never displayed until he had Rikudou chakra, and the sword his avatar used was special enough to have a name, it carried enough power to casually bust mountains which again Sasuke never displayed until he had a Sharingan powered by the same chakra Indra had.

I think the author was suggesting that Madara inherited Indra's ability to use Susano'o while Sasuke inherited Indra's ability to use ninjutsu. And it would make sense that Indra's feats were divided amongst his transmigrants because Ashura's feats also happened to be divided between Senju and Uzumaki.
Susano'o is a ninjutsu though. Both being Indra's transmigrants wouldn't give them half of Indra's abilities when they both have his main technique.

The size and power of his PS was due to the strength of his chakra. Madara was at or near his peak when he had PS Sasuke if he was Madara's age would have the same size and power output if not more in his prime with EMS.

It's not hard to gauge kamui was Obito's main ability Amaterasu/Enton was Sasuke's etc etc but Madara came into the war not even going all out he was just playing. Madara and Sasuke showed mastery over Susano'o. Partial transformations and all Madara only shown eyeless Susano'o and a Susano'o/chakra arm.

Not really amaterasu/Enton is a ninjutsu that Sasuke used threw Susano'o. And Madara's PS doesn't have a name for it's sword as far as I know. Also that's like saying Madara specialises in katon and Sasuke doesn't which is wrong since all Uchiha's specialises in katon. Madara showed katon jutsu's Sasuke never used/seen and vise versa.
 

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Susanoo and Amaterasu has become fodder against high level tier like 3 years ago, stop being butthurt about it.

The new mechanic is speed, reflex, new hax power, taijutsu
 

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So basically you think that because sauce unlocked PS that it should be on even ground with madara's susanoo? Why ,because they both have indra chakra therefore makes him equal to madara? Lol no, madara outclasses that entire generation. If anything madara was the one who was nerfed.
sasuke fans just truly push their delusions that sasuke should be the greatest.

They fail to realize that it's Naruto's story and that the end game, he becomes the strongest and be hokage.

Also fail to realize that Sasuke is, at most, Indra level. He would never be Hagoromo level while Madara is sub-par Kaguya, slightly above Hagoromo level (because he absorbed the tree as well but he didnt have ALL the tailed beast chakra so he's sub-par to pre ninshu Kaguya)
 

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sasuke fans just truly push their delusions that sasuke should be the greatest.

They fail to realize that it's Naruto's story and that the end game, he becomes the strongest and be hokage.

Also fail to realize that Sasuke is, at most, Indra level. He would never be Hagoromo level while Madara is sub-par Kaguya, slightly above Hagoromo level (because he absorbed the tree as well but he didnt have ALL the tailed beast chakra so he's sub-par to pre ninshu Kaguya)
I'm a sasuke fan and you're in my genjutsu :lol
 

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I don't think the number of years of experience would have given him the same level of power as Madara, imo EMS Sasuke inherited Indra's ninjutsu talent while Madara inherited mastery over Susano'o.
Well, the strange thing is, is that if you want to believe that, then Madara literally received mastery over Susano'o before awakening Susano'o. I hope you do realize that he needs both Mangekyo powers in order to awaken Susano'o, so in my opinion, it makes no sense that he received mastery over Susano'o before actually receiving Susano'o.
 

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sasuke fans just truly push their delusions that sasuke should be the greatest.

They fail to realize that it's Naruto's story and that the end game, he becomes the strongest and be hokage.

Also fail to realize that Sasuke is, at most, Indra level. He would never be Hagoromo level while Madara is sub-par Kaguya, slightly above Hagoromo level (because he absorbed the tree as well but he didnt have ALL the tailed beast chakra so he's sub-par to pre ninshu Kaguya)
Looks like you're the delusional one, Kurama already mentioned Sasuke being on Hagoromo's level :coffee:
 

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Well, the strange thing is, is that if you want to believe that, then Madara literally received mastery over Susano'o before awakening Susano'o. I hope you do realize that he needs both Mangekyo powers in order to awaken Susano'o, so in my opinion, it makes no sense that he received mastery over Susano'o before actually receiving Susano'o.
You need both eyes yes but it doesn't change the fact his use of Susano'o was better than everyone else's. Madara displayed the same sized Susanoo as Rinnegan Sasuke and the same feats yet he didn't have Rikudou chakra.
 
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