Kishimoto is a DUMBass

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He shat all over his own manga with everything involving the uchiha, well... for the most part
 

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After Seeing Hit in DB Super Kick Vegeta and Goku's Ass with a Gentle Fist Type Technique...

I think back to Neji and Hinata and their Wasted Potential...My God Gentle Fist Would of BEen Badass if Kishi would of stopped Getting so much Fanservice Power ups to the Uchihas.

Hit is the Gentle Fist Type Master Neji and Hinata should been.

Even Destroying Perfect Susannos LEft and right.
This is what happens when you go on wanking fodders way too much

Hebi Sasuke without manda low diffs them smh
 

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^ Has no idea what he's talking about.


OT : I agree.
 

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the hyuuga were awesome in part one. it's a shame kishi ruined them
 

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OT : I agree.

Coming from a troll :lol

You want to debate Hebi Sasuke Vs Neji and Hinata i am up.

Do you want me to make a thread about it :lol and i will give you the opener.Lets see what happens :lol
 

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Coming from a troll :lol

You want to debate Hebi Sasuke Vs Neji and Hinata i am up.

Do you want me to make a thread about it :lol and i will give you the opener.Lets see what happens :lol

Shame on you. He negs them.
 

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first ppl say Kishimoto is dumb because he "ripped off" stuff to put in the story, now he's dumb because he didn't? Which one is it going to be ppl?
 

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Perfect Susano'o is out of the question. Ribcage, and other variants however, can be destroyed. Gentle Fist inserts chakra into the target causing the chakra to be distorted, and ultimately destroyed. Susano'o is nothing, but chakra. Gentle Fist isn't just for closing chakra pathways, as seen in Neji vs Kidomaru.

The Neji vs Kidomaru fight is certainly evidence I agree in that aspect. Hinata's lion palm could also be evidence, the distortions themselves though could be fixed by the susano user in question seeing hoe easy it is to remake a susano. Albeit yeah I agree but I still say it has a lot more to do with the brute force as well. But what distortions would be caused in the susano? While the hyuga can certainly distort chakra with their gentle fist that has always been used on some type of human not on a chakra construct to my knowledge. Even then the chakra of kurama by just a little bit was able to reopen Naruto's chakra pathways so it has to be some sort of brute force to gentle fist against the chakra ofbthe opponent ratio. Otherwise people can make the argument that one hyuga can shut down kaguya's pathways. Also in the neji and hinata fight hinata was hitting Neji and matching him blow for blow but Neji not only took little damage from it but he decimated Hinata. Thank you though for the information on gentle fist, it is certainly a powerful taijutsu
 

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Shame on you. He negs them.

Thats something Quite obvious

Sasuke's shunshin and speed feats are far above anything they have shown add the fact CS1 and CS2 enhancement
Thuy have no long range attack aka Sasuke flies uses fireballs then Kirin and nukes them

in CQC an still injured Sasuke fended off against Killer Bee's 7 sword dance he schools them with far superior kenjutsu and this is not even 1/10 of his arsenal
 
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Take that BS elsewhere, eighty gods vacuum technique is a byakugan technique. Everyone knows uchiha>>hyuga but that technique is made possible through the byakugan.

nowhere is it stated a user NEEDS the byakugan it states WHEN used with the byakugan. Kaguya is a kekkei mora user and that technique is kekkei mora taijutsu that's merely amplified by the byakugan. That's like saying you need the sharingan to use chidori
 

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Thats something Quite obvious

Sasuke's shunshin and speed feats are far above anything they have shown add the fact CS1 and CS2 enhancement
Thuy have no long range attack aka Sasuke flies uses fireballs then Kirin and nukes them

in CQC an still injured Sasuke fended off against Killer Bee's 7 sword dance he schools them with far superior kenjutsu and this is not even 1/10 of his arsenal

He dodged the first two shockwaves of C2 bombs without his CS2 though. That's the fastest body flicker bar MS Itachi and V2 Ae till the later tiers didn't show up. For the third, he did it again with his own body and used CS2 as well. So yes, his speed is out of their league.

I completely agree. In fact, he can just summon Manda and sit back and chill out.
 

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They are side characters they're only relevant when it comes to the main characters development
Kishi didn't develop the uchiha for fanservice but because sasuke a main character is uchiha
 

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Theres like 5 different arguments going on lol
 

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You're ignoring one obvious fact here, they were nerfed. This is what the manga says about Byakugan users
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"things made of chakra" In terms of potential gentle fist can destroy Susano'o because it's made of chakra. Kaguya proved the claim by negging Sasuke.
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And without a bijuu you have no defence against getting your chakra point blocked. No chakra = no ninjutsu = no Sharingan feats
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It's too OP because it removes your ability to fight completely and renders the opponent into fodder. As a result the author decided to ignore the Hyuga and centre the story around Uchiha.

I will not entertain a rebuttal because you used Kaguya, who is a God, a kekkei mora user, and who's chakra is on another level and use that as justification for your claim.

With that logic the average hyuga can seal Kaguya's chakra pathsways... Your logic goes both ways mate

Kaguya used a kelkei mora taijutsu technique to brwak Sasuke's susano. I wasn't aware the aberahe hyuga could use eighty gods much less kekkei mora. Not even the uchiha or senju can use kekkei mora...

Also Kaguya's hair has been shown to habe special properties from blocking shadow clones to absorbing chakra. A simple strike to sasuke's arm from the average senpon will not impale his ability to use susano. He even took it out without much if any difficulty. At best that wasn't even perfect susano either I already stated a hyuga such as neji would be able to break into a susano ribcage at least.

You showed me scans of Kaguya and then tell me it's OP and that's the reason why it got nerfed? Are you joking or serious?
 

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Take that BS elsewhere, eighty gods vacuum technique is a byakugan technique. Everyone knows uchiha>>hyuga but that technique is made possible through the byakugan.

Both the Jutsu and Kaguya's Byakugan are Kekkei Mora aka no one else can use that jutsu
 

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nowhere is it stated a user NEEDS the byakugan it states WHEN used with the byakugan. Kaguya is a kekkei mora user and that technique is kekkei mora taijutsu that's merely amplified by the byakugan. That's like saying you need the sharingan to use chidori

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A Kekkei Mōra/Taijutsu used by Kaguya, made possible by her mastery of Chakra. She loads Chakra into her palm, and then unleashes it as a barrage of countless fists. The fist attacks can also be used defensively, and when coupled with Kaguya's perfect Dōjutsu, it has the potential to become the strongest offensive ability. The Hyūga Clan uses a similar vacuum palm attack

Data book clearly makes a link between the two, by your logic eight trigams 64 palms isn't a byakugan technique either. Also using wiki, really? And where in the wiki did it say it was a rinne sharingan technique?

Both the Jutsu and Kaguya's Byakugan are Kekkei Mora aka no one else can use that jutsu

That's not the point, the point is the technique is made possible through her byakugan not rinne sharingan. Finish
 

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Data book clearly makes a link between the two, by your logic eight trigams 64 palms isn't a byakugan technique either. Also using wiki, really? And where in the wiki did it say it was a rinne sharingan technique?



That's not the point, the point is the technique is made possible through her byakugan not rinne sharingan. Finish

It was made possible by that large amount of chakra. Take that out, and her Jutsu strength plummets to Hyuga level.
 

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how? clayboy can nukes bombs from above, hidan has 5 hearts that can wipe out an entire forrest, sasori can just spam his puppets and poison, itachi is well itachi, tobi can use kamui, kisame can literally change the area into a freaking water dome, and pain has CT and shinra tensei. at best hyuuga's can maybe handle konan, hidan and BZ, and that's only because neji is exceptional hyuuga.
wat .
 

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That's not the point, the point is the technique is made possible through her byakugan not rinne sharingan. Finish

Yeah also the massive amount of Chakra of Kaguya
 
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