Kishi, you dug ur own grave

[Xaviour]

As you can see people, Humans in general don't take too well to change

 

[Uchiha Heikou]

It wasn't unique to Madara. Itachi was revived with his eyes too. Sasuke was looking at him with his own eyes Nagato had his Rinnegan as well, which is interesting if they were originally Madara's.*

Hashirama's face on Madara's shoulder is Kabuto's special treatment. It was the result of Orochimaru's experiments which had used Danzo as a prototype.

The part about him being young again is a little harder to explain. Nagato grew younger when he absorbed enough chakra. Since Madara has Rinnegan perhaps he used it in the same way?

*I'm guessing this is a continuity error, not supporting Nagato awakening the Rinnegan himself

 

[Xerilith]

It wasn't unique to Madara. Itachi was revived with his eyes too. Sasuke was looking at him with his own eyes Nagato had his Rinnegan as well, which is interesting if they were originally Madara's.*

Hashirama's face on Madara's shoulder is Kabuto's special treatment. It was the result of Orochimaru's experiments which had used Danzo as a prototype.

The part about him being young again is a little harder to explain. Nagato grew younger when he absorbed enough chakra. Since Madara has Rinnegan perhaps he used it in the same way?

*I'm guessing this is a continuity error, not supporting Nagato awakening the Rinnegan himself

The face is from Madara implanting Hashirama's cells before his death. You are revived with your own Bloodline abilites, stated by Kabuto. Which explains Itachi and Nagato's eyes.

 

[sLm]

You can't see the whole picture, all we can do is wait until all is drawn, and then make our conclusions.

 

[SnipeDemon]

yea now that i think about it doesn't really makes sense, considering that madara was brought back in his prime and then more, yet chiyo was brought back as she died, an old woman. like why was madara the only person to be brought back in his prime? why isn't every person just at the strongest they have ever been? idk maybe that somehow is chiyo's prime but if that's the excuse it's just ridiculous

Perhaps the chakra and concentration costs for bringing someone back into their prime are too great? It would make sense that Kabuto would have chosen Madara out of all the other shinobi. IDK I think it is ignorant to make assumptions and throw out the entire manga until Kishi has a chance to explain the plot-line.

 

[Corgi]

you've read te manga through ad through yet you dot know about when kabuto said he revived madara to his golden age...

 

[edo tensai wilmaso]

It wasn't unique to Madara. Itachi was revived with his eyes too. Sasuke was looking at him with his own eyes Nagato had his Rinnegan as well, which is interesting if they were originally Madara's.*

Hashirama's face on Madara's shoulder is Kabuto's special treatment. It was the result of Orochimaru's experiments which had used Danzo as a prototype.

The part about him being young again is a little harder to explain. Nagato grew younger when he absorbed enough chakra. Since Madara has Rinnegan perhaps he used it in the same way?

*I'm guessing this is a continuity error, not supporting Nagato awakening the Rinnegan himself

Eso tensei bring you back to how you were before you died( everyone except madara) he was brought back beyond his prime which explains his young age.

 

[Gyakusetsu]

Eso tensei bring you back to how you were before you died( everyone except madara) he was brought back beyond his prime which explains his young age.

Then please explain why Kabuto had to ask if Madara survived his fight with Hashirama and why Madara did not know who Tsunade was but recognized a much altered Onooki? (Don't say it was because he wasn't starring at her face)

 

[edo tensai wilmaso]

Then please explain why Kabuto had to ask if Madara survived his fight with Hashirama and why Madara did not know who Tsunade was but recognized a much altered Onooki? (Don't say it was because he wasn't starring at her face)

Kabuto asked cuz of plot no Justus, he recognized onooki cuz they actually met before a couple of times oh yeah he's the only person who flies , and not tsunade because one onooki is much older and who knows how long madara has been down there , maybe since after final fight with the first.

 

[Gyakusetsu]

Kabuto asked cuz of plot no Justus, he recognized onooki cuz they actually met before a couple of times oh yeah he's the only person who flies , and not tsunade because one onooki is much older and who knows how long madara has been down there , maybe since after final fight with the first.

First she is very famous making a name for herself as a legendary Sannin. Second she had direct contact with Nagato around the time Madara would have been giving the Rinnegan to him. She had made quite a name for herself during that war. Between this and her relationship to Hashirama he should have recognized her.

 

[edo tensai wilmaso]

First she is very famous making a name for herself as a legendary Sannin. Second she had direct contact with Nagato around the time Madara would have been giving the Rinnegan to him. She had made quite a name for herself during that war. Between this and her relationship to Hashirama he should have recognized her.

she was famous , that doesn't mean everyone knows how she looks like , do they show ppl watching t.v or uSing the Internet all day ... more like madara was isolated himself . That argument of why he doesn't recognize tsunade is weak ....I'm pretty sure he knows who tsunade is , he doesn't have to be omg your tsunade... He has better things in his mind like world domination, tsunade is nothing to him.

 

[thegame]

she was famous , that doesn't mean everyone knows how she looks like , do they show ppl watching t.v or uSing the Internet all day ... more like madara was isolated himself . That argument of why he doesn't recognize tsunade is weak ....I'm pretty sure he knows who tsunade is , he doesn't have to be omg your tsunade... He has better things in his mind like world domination, tsunade is nothing to him.

Yet he took so much interest in her, in their fight... How odd.

 

[Uchiha Samater]

kabuto did say Madara was brought back special.

If certain fights did not go the way you wanted you cant blame kishi.
Its like me saying how easily Sarutobi handled Hashirama and Tobirama especially based on what we know now.

You cant judge it until its finished, i think most peoples own desires and over active imaginations have ruined a great story for them.

 

[Honord Sage]

Just because Kishi dose not follow your ideas is no reason to say He mess up. Kishi is the owner,creator of Naruto He can created His vision not yours.

 

[moongem]

I'm sorry to say it. I've been reading Naruto for 5-6 years, and I've read through it many times. I've also made many theories during the years, so I've made a lot of research in the manga. But now I've reached a conclusion: Kishi has ****ed up. Naruto was a brilliant manga, specially in the start, however, it escalated after the time skip, and this current war situation just occured way too fast out of nowhere, as well did Narutos power. I can live with all this, though it caused me to think of other mangas as my favorite manga.

But now Kishi really did it. He fu*ked up big time. I can't really see how it happened, but after he brought the edo tensei to the war, everything ended up like crap. Some of them were brought back for no reason, and it was like Kishi rushed through all the fights, and just forgot them, and then he ended the jutsu. Except for his greatest mistake of all time. Uchiha Madara.

The current situation is showing us the very first meeting between obito and madara. Madara is an old powerless man, who has only 1 sharingan. But in the present era in Naruto, an edo tensei version of uchiha Madara at an age of what I would say is about 30-50 years, is fighting Naruto - after he slaughtered the 5 kages. This version of Madara carries the rinnengan, so it must be the "version" of him that died "shortly" after awakening the rinnengan. However, this same Uchiha Madara who according to his age must have died 30-50 years ago, actually knows Obito and the plan they made.

Maybe we just don't know the full aspect of Edo Tensei, but if it would be possible to "escape death" as Madara claims he did, then how could he be revived in a state before that, and still remember what happened to him afterwards? Also if he did indeed find Nagato to give him his eyes, he must have been in somewhat "good" shape at the moment, or he must have had other people doing it for him, which is unlikely, but probably the only way kishi could get away with it. But if that would be the case, how couldn't he know who Tsunade is? After all she faught a war in the same country as where Nagato grew up, and she became "famous" from this war. It was also during this war Obito was born, though that is probably irrelevant.

So Kishi kinda dug his own grave this time, and as an experienced reader, I have a hard time seeing him escaping this hole. In my opinion he has just one option, and that is to present us some new jutsu, or some other helpers/followers of Uchiha Madara that helped him out during the years, but that would be a huge set back for him and the entire story..

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[InGyeong]

Oh my god… what is this?

NAZIto - Base controlled by Danzo?



Why is everybody getting upset if somebody says he does not like Kishis (current) work?

I agree with the L –Avatar guy that the story turned boring and odd.

(I’d like to give you +rep, but I do not know how… sry :ghehe: )

So please feel free to tell the Mods to erase my account here, Kishanbu- guys!
Peace!
xd xd xd

 

[thegame]

Just because Kishi dose not follow your ideas is no reason to say He mess up. Kishi is the owner,creator of Naruto He can created His vision not yours.

Oh really? Why would I want him to follow my ideas? Then I could make my own manga. It is just sad if you can't see how the quality of the story has dropped. Even Bleach has gone up again, but Naruto keeps falling. And I blame Kishi for that, since he is the owner and creater of Naruto....

 

[NinJaGirl99]

Oh really? Why would I want him to follow my ideas? Then I could make my own manga. It is just sad if you can't see how the quality of the story has dropped. Even Bleach has gone up again, but Naruto keeps falling. And I blame Kishi for that, since he is the owner and creater of Naruto....

You're absolutely right. Kishi is responsible for the quality or lack there of in his manga. What I don't understand is why you and others who feel this way about the manga continue to keep reading it week after week. If I felt this way about the manga I would have already stopped reading it. I'm not telling you what to do. Do what you want.

It appears to me that you no longer enjoy the manga. Why continue especially since there is another manga you enjoy?

 

[edo tensai wilmaso]

Yet he took so much interest in her, in their fight... How odd.

obviously he was just toying with them and she's the granddaughter of the first. so he wanted to see what she can do, which was nothing got tired and went to get the kyubbi.

 

[Altaneen]

So many things wrong, I honestly don't know where to start.