Kishi spoiled many things...

[wildstorm]

1) manga first chapter first page, when we see about 4th hokage & kyubi, we think it was awesome....but then, its shown that minato actually had the chance of staying alive, & both minato & kushina died due to a foolish plot....ofc reason was good: to protect naruto, who'd eventually become the saviour thereby justifying his parent's death, but no matter how you look at it, the way they died was not appealing at all....

2) Uchiha clan : first, sasuke was the only uchiha survivor, & we were so glad when he activated sharingan & all that....now, there's itachi,tobi madara shisui danzo(not uchiha, but had the eyes)....more importantly, not the numbers, but the doujutsu powers are on a completely different level, MS,EMS, amaterasu, tsukiyomi, Kotoamatsukami, susanoo, izanagi, izanami,kamui & what not..... everything can be done with just their eyes.....if u look at it now, if u cut off itachi's body completely, & only head remains, he can still beat 99% of non-fodder ninjas.....this excessive power ups have made the characters worse...

3) revival of hokages.......without them, the fight was going on nicely....sasuke could've become good again due to any other reason too, wasnt necessary to bring back oruchimaru & hokages for it.....naruto+ sasuke vs tobi+madara.....nice match & end the fight, end the manga....would've been a dream end....now, its such a situation that if hokages enter the fight, the new generation(& will of fire) will have no meaning, & if they dont enter the fight, then their revival will have no meaning....complete mess created with them been revived....

4) Tobi= Obito.....that was one of the worst part of the manga too......the mask, the "I'm madara" thing, & lastly, sudden power up from kid obito to tobi within an year.......

There are many more, but I cant go on....point is, apart from the plotholes, these changes has made the manga less attractive.....
Now, Is it only me, or the majority here feel the same way ?

 

[GwemBaba]

<div class="bbWrapper">Not in the slightest.</div>

 

[khaoz]

i actually like the way things are progressing and i think yeah they will join but in the end it will be naruto defeating the last bad guy whether its obito or madara and i like that he will get to fight along side his dad

 

[Chibiusa]

The hate for Tobi being Obito is ridiculous -_- You ppl still aren't over that? How can you even enjoy the manga when you claim the main part of the plot is the worst part? Wow

 

[pandu]

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[Sir Blades]

Only on some of what you say agreed

 

[southern sun]

weeeeeeeeeeee... another useless bitching abot stupid pnj

 

[rollin]

Obito was foreshadowed to be tobi since chapter 16
And what plot holes?

 

[AllomnisymbolsparttwoT]

Nah! OBITO was the perfect choice! did you see how old madara was when he saved obito?? theres no way izuna would have been tobi also it wont affect the storyline, obito being tobi affects kakashi, gai and the whole of konoha! yet some people say tobi being izuna made the best sense get the **** outta here! naruto parents death style was good it showed us the true nature of a parent and the love and care they have for a child! also itachi with only a head still dies dont talk shit

 

[P3ĮÑ]

It's kishi's troll no kinjutsu

 

[Uchiha Samater]

seriously dude

Your entitled to your opinion which is cool.

I personally feel that alot of that complaint was invalid, [my own opinion again],

1. You say the fourth's death was

not appealing

, i really think you need to read back, it was perfect, full of emotion, cohesive to the story, and also allowed the fourth to keep his Mystique of being extremely talented and hard to beat without showing us many of his moves.

2.Uchiha's sharingan being rare, [which is what i got from your rant], and how they have become overpowered, i mean do you expect kunai's and rope to beat every fighter, especially when we caught a slight glimpse in Oro's fight with Sarutobi on how far some can progress.

Also, for sasuke's character progression, it was essential, i feel if no other uchiha beside Itachi and his brother existed ppl would complain about ''aww he should have told us more about the uchiha'' blah blah

3. wont even bother with the kage's because i feel if you haven't understood how important just these last chapters have been , i dont know what will.

4. T/OBITO...siiiigh

but again we are all entitled to our own opinion

 

[Shura]

People are still upset about Tobi being Obito? I think that his background and character is awesome.

 

[Ventalus]

4) Tobi= Obito.....that was one of the worst part of the manga too......the mask, the "I'm madara" thing, & lastly, sudden power up from kid obito to tobi within an year.......

Don't understand why people is hating on that Tobi is Obito. I think it is pretty cool, would be even more stupid if Tobi was a 80 - 130 years old man running around.

 

[P3ĮÑ]

Don't understand why people is hating on that Tobi is Obito. I think it is pretty cool, would be even more stupid if Tobi was a 80 - 130 years old man running around.

It would've been more appealing if he was the ramen guy

 

[Asami..]

Tobi being Obiro is not a troll, nor a fail. :| Kishi didn't want to make it such a big deal about his identity and he even foreshadowed it.

 

[Excālibur1]

I don't agree about the Revival of Kages...

He wanted to know the answers.. He isn't spoiling the battle.. He is going to the battlefield himself to protect Konoha.. Now is that bad for the war?

 

[thegame]

I see your point.

Problem is Kishi is bad at inventing new stuff, or just widen his universe. Compared to DBZ or One-Piece, even Bleach, they all keep creating new things. New abilities, new enemies, etc.

But Naruto just keeps going over the same things again and again. Over 600 chapters it gets tiresome and boring. Multiple rinnengans. Multiple sharingans, etc.. Too many "plot"-happenings, that are just stupid.

Not that the manga is bad. The first part and half of part 2 were awesome, but your point is valid for the latter part. After Nagato was beaten, we have seen nothing new nor unexpected :/

 

[wildstorm]

Obito was foreshadowed to be tobi since chapter 16
And what plot holes?

I'm not against Obito being tobi, but against all that surprise kishi created for it......majority of readers predicted its obito, & when we all finally came to know about it, no one was amused......Thats what I'm saying.....all the excitement he created behind tobi, died down.....Acceptance of the fact, is not in question here, its the killing of excitement I'm talking about...

Nah! OBITO was the perfect choice! did you see how old madara was when he saved obito?? theres no way izuna would have been tobi also it wont affect the storyline, obito being tobi affects kakashi, gai and the whole of konoha! yet some people say tobi being izuna made the best sense get the **** outta here! naruto parents death style was good it showed us the true nature of a parent and the love and care they have for a child! also itachi with only a head still dies dont talk shit

itachi's head thing, was meant to be taken in opposite way, ie if u remove uchiha's eyes, he's lesser than a fodder...

seriously dude

Your entitled to your opinion which is cool.

I personally feel that alot of that complaint was invalid, [my own opinion again],

1. You say the fourth's death was , i really think you need to read back, it was perfect, full of emotion, cohesive to the story, and also allowed the fourth to keep his Mystique of being extremely talented and hard to beat without showing us many of his moves.

2.Uchiha's sharingan being rare, [which is what i got from your rant], and how they have become overpowered, i mean do you expect kunai's and rope to beat every fighter, especially when we caught a slight glimpse in Oro's fight with Sarutobi on how far some can progress.

Also, for sasuke's character progression, it was essential, i feel if no other uchiha beside Itachi and his brother existed ppl would complain about ''aww he should have told us more about the uchiha'' blah blah

3. wont even bother with the kage's because i feel if you haven't understood how important just these last chapters have been , i dont know what will.

4. T/OBITO...siiiigh

but again we are all entitled to our own opinion

2. There could've been tons of new jutsus that could've been used for uchihas, but all thats shown, is their overdependancy on eyes, as well as way too high lvl of the doujutsus.....
3. first uchiha fodderized, then gave them way too high powers......now that uchiha has gone way too high as compared to senju, he revived the hokages so that strength of senju can be shown........all kishi has been doing, is trying to overcome one spoilt plot with another....& it'll never end, just as I mentioned about edo hokages' participation or non-participation in the war, both will turn out to be dissapointing....

 

[Untung]

1) manga first chapter first page, when we see about 4th hokage & kyubi, we think it was awesome....but then, its shown that minato actually had the chance of staying alive, & both minato & kushina died due to a foolish plot....ofc reason was good: to protect naruto, who'd eventually become the saviour thereby justifying his parent's death, but no matter how you look at it, the way they died was not appealing at all....

2) Uchiha clan : first, sasuke was the only uchiha survivor, & we were so glad when he activated sharingan & all that....now, there's itachi,tobi madara shisui danzo(not uchiha, but had the eyes)....more importantly, not the numbers, but the doujutsu powers are on a completely different level, MS,EMS, amaterasu, tsukiyomi, Kotoamatsukami, susanoo, izanagi, izanami,kamui & what not..... everything can be done with just their eyes.....if u look at it now, if u cut off itachi's body completely, & only head remains, he can still beat 99% of non-fodder ninjas.....this excessive power ups have made the characters worse...

3) revival of hokages.......without them, the fight was going on nicely....sasuke could've become good again due to any other reason too, wasnt necessary to bring back oruchimaru & hokages for it.....naruto+ sasuke vs tobi+madara.....nice match & end the fight, end the manga....would've been a dream end....now, its such a situation that if hokages enter the fight, the new generation(& will of fire) will have no meaning, & if they dont enter the fight, then their revival will have no meaning....complete mess created with them been revived....

4) Tobi= Obito.....that was one of the worst part of the manga too......the mask, the "I'm madara" thing, & lastly, sudden power up from kid obito to tobi within an year.......

There are many more, but I cant go on....point is, apart from the plotholes, these changes has made the manga less attractive.....
Now, Is it only me, or the majority here feel the same way ?

Is only you to feel that way..... The story is more and more attractive...... So my sugest for you is..... STOP reading naruto manga ASAP, when you feel that......

 

[Jikukan]

I only agree with the obito part, that was really lame ass.. such a dissapointment