[Discussion] Kishi Neutered Madara?

[valandil988]

Consider for a moment:

Is it realistic right not for any of the main characters to gain a power-up even remotely able to match up to Madara's sheer power right now? Not only is his the Juubi Jin he has the true awakened Rinnegan and his own experience in wielding it. IE even if Sasuke unlocked the Rinnegan right now it wouldn't mean shit to Madara (Sorry sasuke FBs).

Honestly I think we can forget about power ups for now I just hope the main characters don't die like fodders lol.

So can we look forward to an epic battle against madara?

Honestly I have to say no, somehow Madara will be defeated but it won't be by even a combined team effort. There's only so much the SA or Naruto & Sasuke n Co can do. Most of whom are either dieing or out of chakra. So ultimately Madara has already won the battle he doesn't need to bother with anyone else as nobody has the strength to even stall him never mind fight him.

So really Madara has just been Neutered by Kishi, he has been turned into an untouchable character that while immensely strong has already had his fate sealed by Kishi. The fact he is so powerful means that some plot device will be the one to put him down.

It is likely for some kind of juubi awakening and his supreme arrogance over the nature of the tailed beast will be the hubris that will be his undoing (IE he believe them to be little more than chakra that needs direction by his blessed eyes etc). Either that or the stupid way he gobbed up the sages tools and his arrogant disregard for them is likely important.

YES it is possible we may be seeing TENTEN of all people defeating madara in a Frodo esque fashion . Lamest way ever for Madara to be defeated oh well lol.

He might do some damage but it is unlikely anyone will die due to his apparent power now. My reasoning for this is because kishi wouldn't send characters un-needfully to the meat grinder without meaning or pay off.

 

[ObitoKarin]

Ten Ten seals him when he says, "I am a God".

If that happens then I'd throw my computer out the window, get it repaired, hook it back up, find the manga page again, and laugh my butt off XD

 

[dark legion]

I'm sorry my friend but I think that once Madara got revived by Rinne tensei and once he became Juubi's jin .. Now there is a way to stop him.. There will be no plot no jutsu ... Kishi had in plan to make Madara jubbi's jin , but before he became one , Kishi made him much too strong .. thought I agree that Sasuke/naruto probably wont get power ups .

 

[valandil988]

I'm sorry my friend but I think that once Madara got revived by Rinne tensei and once he became Juubi's jin .. Now there is a way to stop him.. There will be no plot no jutsu ... Kishi had in plan to make Madara jubbi's jin , but before he became one , Kishi made him much too strong .. thought I agree that Sasuke/naruto probably wont get power ups .

I mean if everyone got like I don't know a week to have some sleep and food, sure I could see maybe a SMALL fight before he destroyed them all lol.

Then if there is some "plan" you believe will work please tell us all. And no people decapitating themselves on Madara's staff does not count!

 

[orochimaru]

As i do remember Hashirama wanted to give sasuke some of his power or jutsu... we have to wait for that to see what type of power he's gonna give sasuke...it/may be a key to at least corner Madara cuz Hasi knows Madara/better than anyone...he may know a weakness ...and i agree that Madara's arrogance might play a big role to his defeat.

 

[valandil988]

As i do remember Hashirama wanted to give sasuke some of his power or jutsu... we have to wait for that to see what type of power he's gonna give sasuke...it/may be a key to at least corner Madara cuz Hasi knows Madara/better than anyone...he may know a weakness ...and i agree that Madara's arrogance might play a big role to his defeat.

Hashirama gave a jutsu that can "bind" him in response to stealing senjutsu chakra. So in essence it MIGHT might be capable of forcing Madara to give up Senjutsu possibly weakening him enough for the juubi to over power him? Remember the original sage was a senjutsu user in all likely-hood, it could be that without senjutsu it is impossible to contain the completed juubi...

 

[dark legion]

I mean if everyone got like I don't know a week to have some sleep and food, sure I could see maybe a SMALL fight before he destroyed them all lol.

Then if there is some "plan" you believe will work please tell us all. And no people decapitating themselves on Madara's staff does not count!

its simple : It was harder to seal Madara than to kill Madara .. Now since he is Revived with rinne tensei ,, he can be killed with kunai .. but first we 'll see a battle similar to Juubito-nardo/sasuke... and after that super combo with oro, minato, kakashi, hashi,tobirama's help... MAdara's juubi will be extracted (which Madara will be dead-no doubt ) , they will kill him , cuz now he is mortal .... that's not the real case, "we all know Juubi's weakness (Senjutsu) -nardo posses , Sasuke+juugito, Hashi-they all posses Senjutsu .... the real case is how are all these (hashi, tobirama,Nardo,Sasuke) will stand up, and how are Kakashi/minato survive from Madara until they come back .

 

[Naruto.]

As i do remember Hashirama wanted to give sasuke some of his power or jutsu... we have to wait for that to see what type of power he's gonna give sasuke...it/may be a key to at least corner Madara cuz Hasi knows Madara/better than anyone...he may know a weakness ...and i agree that Madara's arrogance might play a big role to his defeat.

You have an epic username!

 

[valandil988]

its simple : It was harder to seal Madara then to kill Madara .. Now since he is Revived with rinne tensei ,, he can be killed with kunai .. but first we 'll see a battle similar to Juubito-nardo/sasuke... and after that super combo with oro, minato, kakashi, hashi,tobirama's help... MAdara's juubi will be extracted (which Madara will be dead-no doubt ) , they will kill him , cuz now he is mortal .... that's not the real case, "we all know Juubi's weakness (Senjutsu) -nardo posses , Sasuke+juugito, Hashi-they all posses Senjutsu .... the real case is how are all these (hashi, tobirama,Nardo,Sasuke) will stand up, and how are Kakashi/minato survive from Madara until they come back .

Jeez...

How many people do you see in ANY fit state to do any of what you just said?

Sasuke and Naruto barely pulled off that combo attack lol before exhausting themselves, Sasuke couldnt even use Sasunoo to protect himself against Madara's strike. Hence that means they are ALL low on chakra. The only ones who can even possibly fight Madara before being completely owned are Hashirama and Tobirama who are both incapacitated at the moment. Sasuke is dieing Naruto is Dieing, Minato is missing an arm.

Try and consider current situation when you think of an possibility.

 

[dark legion]

Jeez...

How many people do you see in ANY fit state to do any of what you just said?

Sasuke and Naruto barely pulled off that combo attack lol before exhausting themselves, Sasuke couldnt even use Sasunoo to protect himself against Madara's strike. Hence that means they are ALL low on chakra. The only ones who can even possibly fight Madara before being completely owned are Hashirama and Tobirama who are both incapacitated at the moment. Sasuke is dieing Naruto is Dieing, Minato is missing an arm.

Try and consider current situation when you think of an possibility.

they're dying ...? no shit !! don't tell me these ... this is a strategy not a prediction .. if sasuke has a susano , what's the point if he cant use it !!! and What if this mysterious man heals Sasuke, oro helps Tobirama, and hashi... Kishi dint put them in the battle to stay away .... they will all have a part to play, + u must be fool to think that Manga will end with Madara's victory .

 

[UchihaMifune]

It's pretty simple, he'll most likely be defeated by "the power of friendship" or "the will of fire" or some other stupid BS cuz, like u said, almost everybody is out of commission and can't even do anything right now.

Although it would be cool if someone tried to seal him using the sage tools and he just killed them and made them look stupid

 

[flyboyissac]

Madara can't control the juubi even the sage of six paths couldnt final villain the real juubi that taken over madara

 

[Madara Uzumaki Uchiha]

the truth is that Kishimoto nutered juubito. Juubito was more than strong enough to do what he wanted, kishi wrote obito's defeat horibly in my opinion. Now, considering that Madara is probably leagues above juubito in combat prowess, kishi will eithorower up Naruto and Sasuke ( I think they will somehow ge the fruit and split it) or Madara will loose to friendship and Sasuke's TNJ. ( the whole likeness to Izuna thing).

I don't know what would be worse: madara a cool villain ( im my opinion, he is logical, arrogant, and cunning, him ignoring the sages tools is out of character and a plot hole ) loosing because he became incompetent and let Naruto/Sasuke power up.Or loosing because he looses his convictions after a passionate debate with sasuke. uggh- I don't know how kishi is going to wrap this up, I don't even know if Kishi will do it well since recently he has been off his game ( story-wise , I actually really enjoyed the last few arcs its just that the story has been alittle dull)