[Discussion] Kishi Messed Up

[UchihasRightfulHeir]

When Sasuke arrived on the battlefield and said he was going to be Hokage and change the ninja system, it made sense. I mean a lot of people would argue that he could never have been hokage but his logic made sense. Taking out the bijuu makes a lot of sense if you are trying to make a world were peace lasts.


That was all Okay and the Sasuke vs Naruto fight would have just been about the existence of the bijuu. And I think there would have been more suspense with this fight. Because Sasuke and Naruto are relatively equal and both outcomes would have been good for the ninja world in their own way so we wouldnt have been sure who would win exactly. However it ended, i think all the fans would be pretty happy with the results. But Kishi comes up with this whole execution revolution thing to make Sasuke the bad guy. I'm a Sasuke fan but when i read that I was like WTF?

Sasuke has developed and his thinking has developed. but with this, Kishi has just done a 180 and put Sasuke right were he started. I mean, executing the kages doesnt even make sense. Its just cold blooded murder, they arnt even a threat. Aside from Naruto, he could solo clap every single person who decided to go against him.

All in all, Kishi messed up.

 

[I'm stupid real stupid]

Kishi messed up by giving Kakashi 2 MS and having Madara taken out like a fodder...but not what you said

 

[Tobi98]

Pick a history, guess what caused society's changes through time... that's right, revolutions

 

[giostep]

Sasuke was always a bad guy, when did he ever say he was a good guy, when did he ever act like a good guy, throughout the war he has only acted in pure self interest and the kaguya fight was to prepare people for that, he would have sacrificed his team every step of the way...

 

[Shinato]

Sasuke's goal still makes a whole lot of sense. You cannot change a system if its lead by people who follow the ideals of the old system and its easier to just remove them rather than changing them. Sasuke's path is logical and most efficient, not to mention easier to take. That is where he and Naruto differs.

 

[ColdSummer]

I just see it as Sasuke still being bat**** crazy. He's just as tainted by darkness as any of the Kage, if not more. Kishi is just being consistent. I think most of us here saw this coming, because it was clear when Sasuke arrived on the battlefield that he wasn't 100% "right." As he was burning the Juubi with Amaterasu, Sai and Juugo could both see the darkness that was still in him.

 

[3MESSIAH]

nah...kishi would have messed up if he hadnt done what he just had in this chapter....all this build up for sasuke being an antagonist and then hashirama TNJ and poof! sasuke good...i dont think so...it makes sense sasuke came up with this kind of answer

 

[3MESSIAH]

Pick a history, guess what caused society's changes through time... that's right, revolutions

not entirely IMO....

i think it was more like the people changed...the revolution was a trigger for that change however,so you are partly right

the problem is,people cant just always act like sasuke and whenever there`s sth that they dont approve they just make a revolution...that gives birth to an endless cycle of revolutions..just like nagato said....you make a revolution,kill a lot of people and by doing this you make your opposition hate you....and they overthrow you eventually...it`s an endless chain of hatred all over again...basically what sasuke is doing is improved version of nagato.... i think the answer is in people`s mind and heart....we always try to change the system and look where that got us...i mean sure it was harder back in the day when kings ruled and peasants suffered...but if you look at it closely you can see nothing has really changed.....we still have politicans ruling over us and many of us suffer from injustice under the ploy of a word democracy.....nothing has really changed,only a different label of power misuse...

anyways IMO we shouldnt change the system like sasuke is trying to...we should change,as people

 

[Tobi98]

not entirely IMO....

i think it was more like the people changed...the revolution was a trigger for that change however,so you are partly right

the problem is,people cant just always act like sasuke and whenever there`s sth that they dont approve they just make a revolution...that gives birth to an endless cycle of revolutions..just like nagato said....you make a revolution,kill a lot of people and by doing this you make your opposition hate you....and they overthrow you eventually...it`s an endless chain of hatred all over again...basically what sasuke is doing is improved version of nagato.... i think the answer is in people`s mind and heart....we always try to change the system and look where that got us...i mean sure it was harder back in the day when kings ruled and peasants suffered...but if you look at it closely you can see nothing has really changed.....we still have politicans ruling over us and many of us suffer from injustice under the ploy of a word democracy.....nothing has really changed,only a different label of power misuse...

anyways IMO we shouldnt change the system like sasuke is trying to...we should change,as people

I ain't saying he's doing a good things but he it does make sense with what he had said

 

[3MESSIAH]

I ain't saying he's doing a good things but he it does make sense with what he had said

yes even if his direction is wrong in the end(my opinion of course) i understand it

 

[Honord Sage]

Sasuke is having the same trouble as Obito and Madara,wanting to change things by dictatorial means instead of changing hearths.

 

[Shinato]

Sasuke is having the same trouble as Obito and Madara,wanting to change things by dictatorial means instead of changing hearths.

No, he isn't trying to force it upon anyone. He aims to trick them into changing their hearts, which makes him different from Obito and Madara.

 

[MAN OF SIN]

Sasuke was always a bad guy, when did he ever say he was a good guy, when did he ever act like a good guy, throughout the war he has only acted in pure self interest and the kaguya fight was to prepare people for that, he would have sacrificed his team every step of the way...

nah...kishi would have messed up if he hadnt done what he just had in this chapter....all this build up for sasuke being an antagonist and then hashirama TNJ and poof! sasuke good...i dont think so...it makes sense sasuke came up with this kind of answer

This. I have no idea why people thought he was a good guy given all the hints.

 

[Jnaru]

No, he isn't trying to force it upon anyone. He aims to trick them into changing their hearts, which makes him different from Obito and Madara.

Wat he is gonna do wen people wake and oppose him....... Kill them off course....

His way is whoever follow those Kage shld b dead,

and killing naruto is the worst, u can't kill peacekeeper to bring peace

 

[Honord Sage]

No, he isn't trying to force it upon anyone. He aims to trick them into changing their hearts, which makes him different from Obito and Madara.

Stop talking like a liberal it still spells deception or as the Ol saying goes Sasuke speaks with a fork tough.