Kishi is really annoying me as an author

ShinigamiB · Feb 12, 2014

Honestly, this guy is more of a troll than he is a story teller. I feel he is resorting to cheap 'tricks' to keep his manga entertaining and interesting since he knows he's latest work has been full of crap and ass pulls.

To be more specific, I'm talking about the way he introduced the fact that there is a man inside of swirly, and that a man is standing next to Sasuke. chapter 663 ended with the reveal that someone is standing next to sasuke. ending the chapter like this implies to me that it will be the center of the next chapter with a major reveal. instead we get pointless panels of lee and gai. Also, the man inside of swirly. so he just "casually" reveals that there is a man inside of swirly and teaser much(?) we get to see...an ear. Absolutely no reference to swirly this chapter, and im confident we wont be hearing from him in a while because Kishi wants to create suspense among his fans.

But I think that is BS. The identity of Tobi was a well executed long developed story element. But these ass pulls are just 'in case of emergency fans loosing interest'.

And for how many chapters now have Naruto and Sasuke been death now? 3? 4? OBVIOUSLY the two of them are not gonna die. they are the main characters of the story. So why try to make suspenseful what is obvious?

I have been watching/reading naruto for several years now and it hurts me to say it, but this manga is not at the caliber it once was. its like its been written by a different person.

Ōkami · Feb 12, 2014

It's called a build up for anticipation.

And it's clearly working on you.

Allsymbolsparttwo · Feb 12, 2014

you annoy me with your thread, fodder

xjimbox · Feb 12, 2014

Okami the butcher said:
It's called a build up for anticipation.

And it's clearly working on you.

Kishi master sage of the rustling of jimmies

ekichi onizuka · Feb 12, 2014

it's called story telling even one piece is doing it right now with sabo

Six Paths · Feb 12, 2014

Okami the butcher said:
It's called a build up for anticipation.

And it's clearly working on you.

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BearzYo · Feb 12, 2014

I think it's important to remember they are released in book form with chapters that follow on instantly, so the gap we have, if we read the published book, we don't have that gap, so it's less of a deal.

I agree it's annoying when you read chapters weekly as we do, but I don't think that's his fault so much as it is the release schedules.

He does annoy me with his random asspull plot devices though.

Ōkami · Feb 12, 2014

xjimbox said:
Kishi master sage of the rustling of jimmies

He's a master of his craft.

Maito Gai · Feb 12, 2014

ShinigamiB said:
Honestly, this guy is more of a troll than he is a story teller. I feel he is resorting to cheap 'tricks' to keep his manga entertaining and interesting since he knows he's latest work has been full of crap and ass pulls.

To be more specific, I'm talking about the way he introduced the fact that there is a man inside of swirly, and that a man is standing next to Sasuke. chapter 663 ended with the reveal that someone is standing next to sasuke. ending the chapter like this implies to me that it will be the center of the next chapter with a major reveal. instead we get pointless panels of lee and gai. Also, the man inside of swirly. so he just "casually" reveals that there is a man inside of swirly and teaser much(?) we get to see...an ear. Absolutely no reference to swirly this chapter, and im confident we wont be hearing from him in a while because Kishi wants to create suspense among his fans.

But I think that is BS. The identity of Tobi was a well executed long developed story element. But these ass pulls are just 'in case of emergency fans loosing interest'.

And for how many chapters now have Naruto and Sasuke been death now? 3? 4? OBVIOUSLY the two of them are not gonna die. they are the main characters of the story. So why try to make suspenseful what is obvious?

I have been watching/reading naruto for several years now and it hurts me to say it, but this manga is not at the caliber it once was. its like its been written by a different person.

Do you hear that? its the sound of butthturt

Olorin · Feb 12, 2014

I agree this (almost) entire chapter was just trolling

ekichi onizuka said:
it's called story telling even one piece is doing it right now with sabo

everyone knew from the first chapter who Sabo was, Oda didn't even end that chapter on a cliffhanger he did it all in one single chapter, he's just waiting to reveal his face but meanwhile he is alive, there and doing epic stuff =/= trolling the Sasuke ''savior'' identity + trolling Minato + destroying Minato and Kakashi's characters + useless ten ten and gailee stuff + NaruSasu still ''dead'' even though we already know they wont die (for what... 4 chapters now?) + ... all in one chapter ... Kishi is milking the cow dead horse beyond all limits at this point

mayibongwe · Feb 12, 2014

ShinigamiB said:
Honestly, this guy is more of a troll than he is a story teller. I feel he is resorting to cheap 'tricks' to keep his manga entertaining and interesting since he knows he's latest work has been full of crap and ass pulls.

To be more specific, I'm talking about the way he introduced the fact that there is a man inside of swirly, and that a man is standing next to Sasuke. chapter 663 ended with the reveal that someone is standing next to sasuke. ending the chapter like this implies to me that it will be the center of the next chapter with a major reveal. instead we get pointless panels of lee and gai. Also, the man inside of swirly. so he just "casually" reveals that there is a man inside of swirly and teaser much(?) we get to see...an ear. Absolutely no reference to swirly this chapter, and im confident we wont be hearing from him in a while because Kishi wants to create suspense among his fans.

But I think that is BS. The identity of Tobi was a well executed long developed story element. But these ass pulls are just 'in case of emergency fans loosing interest'.

And for how many chapters now have Naruto and Sasuke been death now? 3? 4? OBVIOUSLY the two of them are not gonna die. they are the main characters of the story. So why try to make suspenseful what is obvious?

I have been watching/reading naruto for several years now and it hurts me to say it, but this manga is not at the caliber it once was. its like its been written by a different person.

well we might not have reasons why we are annoyed but he annoys me too. he's wasting too much time and then goes on interviews and say stuff like : "please be patient and watch the manga till the end". i hate it.

anyway i understand him at the same time, he's under a lot of pressure and he has to close it off well.

mayibongwe · Feb 12, 2014

ShinigamiB said:
Honestly, this guy is more of a troll than he is a story teller. I feel he is resorting to cheap 'tricks' to keep his manga entertaining and interesting since he knows he's latest work has been full of crap and ass pulls.

To be more specific, I'm talking about the way he introduced the fact that there is a man inside of swirly, and that a man is standing next to Sasuke. chapter 663 ended with the reveal that someone is standing next to sasuke. ending the chapter like this implies to me that it will be the center of the next chapter with a major reveal. instead we get pointless panels of lee and gai. Also, the man inside of swirly. so he just "casually" reveals that there is a man inside of swirly and teaser much(?) we get to see...an ear. Absolutely no reference to swirly this chapter, and im confident we wont be hearing from him in a while because Kishi wants to create suspense among his fans.

But I think that is BS. The identity of Tobi was a well executed long developed story element. But these ass pulls are just 'in case of emergency fans loosing interest'.

And for how many chapters now have Naruto and Sasuke been death now? 3? 4? OBVIOUSLY the two of them are not gonna die. they are the main characters of the story. So why try to make suspenseful what is obvious?

I have been watching/reading naruto for several years now and it hurts me to say it, but this manga is not at the caliber it once was. its like its been written by a different person.

well we might not have reasons why we are annoyed but he annoys me too. he's wasting too much time and then goes on interviews and say stuff like : "please be patient and watch the manga till the end". i hate it.

anyway i understand him at the same time, he's under a lot of pressure and he has to close it off well.

Uchiha Samater · Feb 12, 2014

i reckon he had the reveal of ''that'' person set for 664 but his fathers death surely had some affect

especially with the title of this chapter + the mini flashback

kizlodda · Feb 12, 2014

This manga surely needs a ten-chapter flashback to become totally worthless.

Storytelling? Huh? It is like if Tolkien wrote 'And then Bilbo asked Gollum a riddle: HUH NO! Switch to Shire, this is Sam reporting in, my scarecrow is very DAFUQQQ switch to Mordor and Nazgul performing some ritual then BAMBAM and Gollum answers - thisss isss eggsss my preciousss!'

And then Gollum asks Bilbo what it feels to poop. Surely. Epic. Such mange.

Draxus · Feb 12, 2014

Well it's official... "ass pull" has lost all meaning. Time to put on the list w/ "trolling" and other such internet forum memes.

ShinigamiB · Feb 12, 2014

As expected, several immature fanboys just strolled here with insults. But I am happy to see that others understand, maybe even agree with, my point.

Good stories have cause and effect. there is a reason why things happen, or don't happen. And it feels like right now Kishi is thinking: "is this cool?" as opposed to thinking "Does this outcome make sense?"

And really im not annoyed at hiding the identity of a character, but just senselessly prolonging the reveal is bad storytelling. Like i said before, Tobi's identity was a well kept secret that kept getting developed all thoughout the manga. It was such an epic reveal that I still remember when and where I was when i read that chapter.

Lastly, to the person who wrote that its clearly working, its not. I am seriously thinking of quitting the manga until it finishes and just binge reading it because it has so much 'filler' its unbearable reading it weekly.

MrDuck · Feb 12, 2014

No. Stop talking like you know Kishi and like he's some internet troll.

Uzumakisan · Feb 12, 2014

It seems to be working, even with you, since you can't stop reading

Not that you are paying for it anyway.

TheCCV · Feb 12, 2014

Okami the butcher said:
It's called a build up for anticipation.

And it's clearly working on you.

But this is negative anticipation, not positive anticipation.

BlackFlame44 · Feb 12, 2014

TheCCV said:
But this is negative anticipation, not positive anticipation.

Care to elaborate what that means?

Kishi is really annoying me as an author

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