Kishi Has Done Well To Balance Naruto and Sasuke.

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It proves that if you cannot control both eyes you cannot use susanoom so Sasuke obviously can use susanoo but he cannot control tsukoyomi. How do you explain that???
And your proof for sasuke having tsukoyomi is a picture of B in black.Sorry but you cannot expect me to accept this as an unquestionable proof.Also, I dont know how old is that databook. Maybe it will be updated soon. According to the databook Sai is stronger than naruto. But now Naruto is stronger, the story developed on.

He can control Tsukuyomi... just not like Itachi can. And why would Kishimoto approve this requirement then change it?

You need Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu to be able to use Susano'o... and Sasuke can use Tsukuyomi.
 

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Sasuke uses Sharingan genjutsu, Itachi uses Tsukuyomi. Why isn't Sasuke using Tsukuyomi?
 
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He can control Tsukuyomi... just not like Itachi can. And why would Kishimoto approve this requirement then change it?

You need Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu to be able to use Susano'o... and Sasuke can use Tsukuyomi.

1)How can you say he can control it when with tsukoyomi he should be able to manipulate time and space inside the genjutsu? Its like saying that naruto could control kyuubi since the fight with Haku/Neji just because sometimes the fox gave his chakra to him...
2) For the same reason that when tobi said that izanagi needs senju dna and later it was explained by Itachi that it doesnt...(and dont say it does because for you narutopedia is a valid source and it also says izanagi doesnt need senju dna...)
3)Except if no.
 

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But yes, Naruto and Sasuke are fairly well balanced.:hint:
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Lol the other picture was worth a shot. xd

Sasuke uses Sharingan genjutsu, Itachi uses Tsukuyomi. Why isn't Sasuke useing Tsukuyomi?

As I said before... "I don't know why he didn't use Tsukuyomi". But you can clearly see the difference between Tsukuyomi and a regular genjutsu.

1)How can you say he can control it when with tsukoyomi he should be able to manipulate time and space inside the genjutsu? Its like saying that naruto could control kyuubi since the fight with Haku/Neji just because sometimes the fox gave his chakra to him...
2) For the same reason that when tobi said that izanagi needs senju dna and later it was explained by Itachi that it doesnt...(and dont say it does because for you narutopedia is a valid source and it also says izanagi doesnt need senju dna...)
3)Except if no.

1. He has the ability to use Tsukuyomi, but Itachi is more skilled than him. Just like Sasuse is better with Amaterasu.

2. When did Itachi say that Izanagi doesn't require Senju DNA? And has it ever occurred to you that Izanagi was developed by an Uchiha who had Senju DNA? That's probably why it was called an Uchiha technique. The only reason the Senju can't use it is because they don't have Sharingan... and that's why it is called an Uchiha technique.
 

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Wouldn't Perfect Susanoo possibly be enough to balance BM, thus leaving no need for Sasuke to gain Rinnegan (in the near future)?
 

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As I said before... "I don't know why he didn't use Tsukuyomi". But you can clearly see the difference between Tsukuyomi and a regular genjutsu.



1. He has the ability to use Tsukuyomi, but Itachi is more skilled than him. Just like Sasuse is better with Amaterasu.

2. When did Itachi say that Izanagi doesn't require Senju DNA? And has it ever occurred to you that Izanagi was developed by an Uchiha who had Senju DNA? That's probably why it was called an Uchiha technique. The only reason the Senju can't use it is because they don't have Sharingan... and that's why it is called an Uchiha technique.

1) Ok we cannot convince each other, you can just think that i'm stupid and stubborn idc.
2) Narutopedia says izanagi doesnt require senju dna so you must accept it as a proof:p No it has never occured to me youre so clever....But true Itachi didnt say it expressis verbis but it was implied.
 

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But yes, Naruto and Sasuke are fairly well balanced.:hint:
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Kate Upton stays stop and get back on subject!

Wait so after about 4-5 pages of you arguing you now want to get back to the subject lol
 

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As I have previously said I think Kishi has done a good job balancing Naruto and Sasuke, do you agree?

If you don't agree with anything post below, Naruto and Sasuke is always a topic that interests me I would like to hear.

Yes we Know Naruto would destroy Sasuke right now but do you really think Kishi is going to troll one of his favourite characters (Sasuke) and let Naruto toss him around like a rag doll.

DUDE you say they are balanced throughout this WHOLE thread and then go and say "yes we know naruto would destroy sasuke right now". I think sasuke will never be equal or better than naruto. This is called Naruto. Naruto > everything in Naruto
umm no naruto could not defeat sasuke

reply and il tell u exactly why:)
 

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1) Ok we cannot convince each other, you can just think that i'm stupid and stubborn idc.
2) Narutopedia says izanagi doesnt require senju dna so you must accept it as a proof:p No it has never occured to me youre so clever....But true Itachi didnt say it expressis verbis but it was implied.

NARUTOPEDIA ALSO SAYS YOU HAVE TO KNOW BOTH MS TECHS FOR SUSANOO...IT DOESNT SAY WHICH TECH OR HOW WELL YOU KNOW THEM:ice:
 

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1) Ok we cannot convince each other, you can just think that i'm stupid and stubborn idc.
2) Narutopedia says izanagi doesnt require senju dna so you must accept it as a proof:p No it has never occured to me youre so clever....But true Itachi didnt say it expressis verbis but it was implied.

Naruto Wiki is reliable(not 100%), but the manga never said that it doesn't require Senju DNA to be performed.

Exp: Naruto stole Sasuke's Sharingan to make a jutsu that requires Uzumaki and Uchiha... the manga would probably name it an Uzumaki technique because it was created by an Uzumaki.
 

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yea. we know he matched them up perfectly

Nah I have been seeing people say Naruto will destroy sasuke when if you look at it carefully they are perfectly matched up. What a fight their fight will be :D


Wouldn't Perfect Susanoo possibly be enough to balance BM, thus leaving no need for Sasuke to gain Rinnegan (in the near future)?

If sasuke managed to get perfect susano then yes but I have not mentioned loads of other techs from the two, naruto has more and all this might be to much for sasuke.

umm no naruto could not defeat sasuke

reply and il tell u exactly why:)

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NARUTOPEDIA ALSO SAYS YOU HAVE TO KNOW BOTH MS TECHS FOR SUSANOO...IT DOESNT SAY WHICH TECH OR HOW WELL YOU KNOW THEM:ice:
In my last post i was talking about izanagi,.....and I just say that narutopedia is not the holy word the Bible...


Naruto Wiki is reliable(not 100%), but the manga never said that it doesn't require Senju DNA to be performed.

Exp: Naruto stole Sasuke's Sharingan to make a jutsu that requires Uzumaki and Uchiha... the manga would probably name it an Uzumaki technique because it was created by an Uzumaki.

Itachi said that Uchihas spammed izanagi thats why it had to be stopped, so I dont think that Uchiha's spent their whole life stealing senju dna...and then if they could steal senju dna, then senju could steal sharingan from dead Uchihas too, but its not said they used izanagi ...
 

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Itachi said that Uchihas spammed izanagi thats why it had to be stopped, so I dont think that Uchiha's spent their whole life stealing senju dna...and then if they could steal senju dna, then senju could steal sharingan from dead Uchihas too, but its not said they used izanagi ...

You're twisting the words of the manga. U_U

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Does it say that every Uchiha could use it? No. It only says that more than one person was using it.

Does it say that Senju DNA is not required? No.

Why was it called an Uchiha technique? Maybe because it required the eye of an Uchiha.
 

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I second that notion...what if naruto and sasuke dont fite becuz madara is too evil and strong and says some to hurt sasukes feelings or some shit
 
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