kishi fails at developing female characters

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that avatar is way to distracting. its wierd i dont know why it is

any way i read the title and all i have to say is who cares the females arent the mian characters
 

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I don't think Kishi fails at developing female characters. It's just people like to downplay female characters simply because they are females. The fact you just said most of them are weak/useless shows me that. Even if Mei defeated Sasuke (which if you ask me she did) people will still say she's weak. The honest truth in my opinion, sexism. Tsunade is a damn Kage but somehow, she's useless. Chick fought an EDO version of Madara and still lived but she's weak. She has enough stamina after the fight to summon AND save the other kage (who are all knocked out). The way you and several others describe female characters is laughable.
 
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I agree. The only good thing I remember sakura doing in this manga was that time when she fought sasori, it was not by herself but still very impressive compared to how she was in part 1.
 

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Wow lol you hate the girls way too much....got a girlfriend? Maybe not
 

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Bold: Physical strength. Overall capabilities? No.
Underlined: No. He mentioned Mito only once, and only in relation to how Naruto was from her clan. Otherwise he never acknowledged any abilities she may have had.

You say Tsunade is considered one of the strongest in the series? Again, physical strength is one factor. She's barely top 15 material overall.

And again, all the females you've mentioned pale in comparison to their male counterparts: Naruto, Shikamaru, Killer B and Naruto again as the male Jinchuuriki, Pain, Gaara, you name it. Still haven't disproved my point with this.
How do the female characters that the person you quoted listed pale in comparison to Shikamaru? Although I agree that the females in this manga are pretty weak and don't hold a candly to anyone in the top 20.
kishi doesnt give any female characters the proper developments

mei - abilities are OP but kishi makes it look way weaker when its actually powerful jutsu
This is true but I think it is because Mei didn't really show all her jutsus. She has pretty powerful water jutsus but she is also supposed to have fire and earth release but she hasn't used it. Also her kkg do have potential to be developed on but she hasn't shown much of those either. She also has no back story so yes I agree that Kishi failed in developing her although I think she'll survive and become a more important character once she recovers.
tsunade - she just recent got her development against madara but she still useless/weak (compared to male characters)
How exactly is Tsunade weak and useless compared to male characters? She isn't exactly high kage tier and will lose to many in a 1 VS 1 to anyone who can counter her regeneration but when it comes to usefulness, Tsunade has been the most useful kage other than Onoki in the fight against Madara. She was also able to heal everyone in the village during the invasion of Pain.
sakura- her last development was sasori....nearly 350 chapters since her last development.....beyond horrible job done by kishimoto
I agree, Sakura, despite being a main character, is now a neglected character.
hinata - she trained with neji but we still dont know what she is capable of, she got owned in 2 seconds by pain...once again bad development
True all she did was so far in the manga go up against someone who she had no chance against and get owned. She did get a decent feat in the latest chapter though.
temari - gets small developments but she just as useless as k11 girls
Nah I think you are under looking some of her feats. In part 1, she was portrayed to be one of the stronger rookies even compared to most of the guys during the chunin exams. By the end of part, she destroyed a large segment of a forest stretching hundreds of meters wide which, despite being just a genin, was actually far above the level her title suggested. Temari got trolled in the beginning of Shippuden because she was not there when Deidara attacked Suna nor was she there when Kankuro went out to retreive Gaara. Then once Temari came back to her village, Lady Chiyo told her that she should stay guarding the village instead of coming to help them fight the Akatsuki. I agree she got trolled during that arc and am pretty pissed about that but whatever. During the War Arc though, she gained some decent feats of which I am not going to elaborate on.
anko - she disappears and then pop up every 100 chapters when kabuto/oro appears, shes useless too
Lol true.
konan- she had no development, she hurt obito but only because she had prep time to set up her 600 billion paper bombs, shes just nagato's useless teammate...she adds nothing to the story just the obito fight
I agree with this as well. She seemed to be a pretty bland character.
kurenai- she got pregnant and disappeared ever since (its obvious why but im just sayin)
Yeah she also got trolled epically.
ino - she has her mind transfer jutsu but its useless without her teammates helping her, once again another useless female character
Yeah just another support character although very useful nonetheless.
ten ten - absolutely no development at all, even in part 1, she was just neji's hype-man lol
I agree.

Also none of the female characters in the manga have versatility. Tsunade has amazing taijutsu and great healing abilities but she has no real long range offence. Mei has a powerful ninjutsu moveset but she lacks a good defence and taijutsu skills. The only two female genjutsu specialists in the manga are not as good as Itachi or any Uchiha for that matter and they don't have anything else to fall back on. In other words, no female has come close to mastering all three forms of shinobi combat even though there are plenty of male ninjas who have done so.
 

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Hell Yeah bro, i ain't got no worries either.....:D

whoever made this thread should get a diagnostic's for depression or just HOOK up man :rofl: :T_T:

Just like lil wayne said "i got money,ch.ick's, dopes<<<i ain't got no worries"<<<<fu.cK that (that isn't the exact lyrics)..xd
 

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Well let's be honest, Kishi has always been better at bromance than developing female characters. xd
 

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The female characters DO get development....it's just that its negligible as compared to the development male characters receive :hint:
It's simply because kishi doesn't take out time to focus on the females :|
 

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I don't think Kishi fails at developing female characters. It's just people like to downplay female characters simply because they are females. The fact you just said most of them are weak/useless shows me that. Even if Mei defeated Sasuke (which if you ask me she did) people will still say she's weak. The honest truth in my opinion, sexism. Tsunade is a damn Kage but somehow, she's useless. Chick fought an EDO version of Madara and still lived but she's weak. She has enough stamina after the fight to summon AND save the other kage (who are all knocked out). The way you and several others describe female characters is laughable.

you sir are a gentlemen and a scholar, well said.
 

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your right with some, but you shouldn't compare some of em to the top powerful people lol
otherwise some men have had zero development by the standard :p
 

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Well i disagree.... I think that a good part of kunoichi you named had a great character development, when it comes to personality and jutsy... But i do agree that females have a much weaker developement than the guys
 

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loool hinata was bound to get raped by pain
 

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Kishi fails at developping any character. But lets face it, that's not the reason why people read Naruto.
 

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the name of the anime is "Naruto" not "Female Ninja". naturally we will only get to see first hand the development of naruto as well as the others naruto will chase after.
 

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kishi doesnt give any female characters the proper developments

mei - abilities are OP but kishi makes it look way weaker when its actually powerful jutsu

tsunade - she just recent got her development against madara but she still useless/weak (compared to male characters)

sakura- her last development was sasori....nearly 350 chapters since her last development.....beyond horrible job done by kishimoto

hinata - she trained with neji but we still dont know what she is capable of, she got owned in 2 seconds by pain...once again bad development

temari - gets small developments but she just as useless as k11 girls

anko - she disappears and then pop up every 100 chapters when kabuto/oro appears, shes useless too

konan- she had no development, she hurt obito but only because she had prep time to set up her 600 billion paper bombs, shes just nagato's useless teammate...she adds nothing to the story just the obito fight

kurenai- she got pregnant and disappeared ever since (its obvious why but im just sayin)

ino - she has her mind transfer jutsu but its useless without her teammates helping her, once again another useless female character

ten ten - absolutely no development at all, even in part 1, she was just neji's hype-man lol

ten ten can beat any one ... n narutu was born on 10/10
 

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How do the female characters that the person you quoted listed pale in comparison to Shikamaru? Although I agree that the females in this manga are pretty weak and don't hold a candly to anyone in the top 20.

This is true but I think it is because Mei didn't really show all her jutsus. She has pretty powerful water jutsus but she is also supposed to have fire and earth release but she hasn't used it. Also her kkg do have potential to be developed on but she hasn't shown much of those either. She also has no back story so yes I agree that Kishi failed in developing her although I think she'll survive and become a more important character once she recovers.

How exactly is Tsunade weak and useless compared to male characters? She isn't exactly high kage tier and will lose to many in a 1 VS 1 to anyone who can counter her regeneration but when it comes to usefulness, Tsunade has been the most useful kage other than Onoki in the fight against Madara. She was also able to heal everyone in the village during the invasion of Pain.

I agree, Sakura, despite being a main character, is now a neglected character.

True all she did was so far in the manga go up against someone who she had no chance against and get owned. She did get a decent feat in the latest chapter though.

Nah I think you are under looking some of her feats. In part 1, she was portrayed to be one of the stronger rookies even compared to most of the guys during the chunin exams. By the end of part, she destroyed a large segment of a forest stretching hundreds of meters wide which, despite being just a genin, was actually far above the level her title suggested. Temari got trolled in the beginning of Shippuden because she was not there when Deidara attacked Suna nor was she there when Kankuro went out to retreive Gaara. Then once Temari came back to her village, Lady Chiyo told her that she should stay guarding the village instead of coming to help them fight the Akatsuki. I agree she got trolled during that arc and am pretty pissed about that but whatever. During the War Arc though, she gained some decent feats of which I am not going to elaborate on.

Lol true.

I agree with this as well. She seemed to be a pretty bland character.

Yeah she also got trolled epically.

Yeah just another support character although very useful nonetheless.

I agree.

Also none of the female characters in the manga have versatility. Tsunade has amazing taijutsu and great healing abilities but she has no real long range offence. Mei has a powerful ninjutsu moveset but she lacks a good defence and taijutsu skills. The only two female genjutsu specialists in the manga are not as good as Itachi or any Uchiha for that matter and they don't have anything else to fall back on. In other words, no female has come close to mastering all three forms of shinobi combat even though there are plenty of male ninjas who have done so.

who is the 2nd genjutsu specialist
 

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this is what kishi thinks of girls
he only thinks they have big boy crushes -_-
So not true
he thinks they are over emotional -_-
So not true
Thinks they can't fight
totally sexist
So basicly females are not in his mind
 

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Kishi failed to develop most of the side characters because he focused too much on the key players and left the side players in the dust, can we think of anything worthwhile Neji did since his sacrificial death and the Sasuke Retrieval Arc?
 
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