kishi direct contradiction of himself

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First he's like hiruzens knows every jutsu in konoha....all five elements exist in konoha....

Then he's like only the rinnegan can allow you to use all five elements

So he had to choose which one he was gonna f**k up and he chose to give hiruzen all five elements...

Kishi sucks and forgets what he writes
 

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Somebody isn't that smart.
 

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it's called character hype, bro, its nothing new in anime/manga.

like raditz and obito being said to be as fast as the speed of light. obviously not true,
 

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You're wrong a bit firstly its not rinnegan only allows one to use all 5 elements, its just convenient to have rinnegan to use all those and secondly as said in manga kekei-tota the three style user remember, i bet that they don't have any rinnegan or sharingan to use three style so why can't hiruzen have mastered all 5 elements during all of his life time, he wasn't called as professor for nothing, you got it :hint:
 

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1. Nagato actually was able to use all 5 elements.

2. Kishi never stated that only Hiruzen knew all 5 elements. Plus, he actually said that Hiruzen used all Konoha jutsus (not all Konoha elements).
 

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You're wrong a bit firstly its not rinnegan only allows one to use all 5 elements, its just convenient to have rinnegan to use all those and secondly as said in manga kekei-tota the three style user remember, i bet that they don't have any rinnegan or sharingan to use three style so why can't hiruzen have mastered all 5 elements during all of his life time, he wasn't called as professor for nothing, you got it :hint:

Three styles it's a lot different than five kids....kakashi even said dine elite jonin can use 3....3 isn't a big deal it's when it's all five....I'm not wrong
 

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i beg to differ im pretty sure its just a case that a rinnengan user can master the 5 elements without much effort, nagato did it in the short time jiraiya with with them, where as im sure hiruzen wouldve had to train his whole life to master them all.
 

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shinobis were born with their nature affinity but they can acquire more through training,
so Hiruzen probably mastered all five elements via training,
Rinnegan will allow its user to use the five elements but rinnegan is not a requirement to use all five
 

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Your hate for Hiruzen has blinded thy eyes
 

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It was never said that only the Rinnegan gives you mastery of the 5 elements :|
 

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Im sure there are better examples of kishi's contradictions
 

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Kishimoto never said that actually. The rinnegan only gives you mastery over all five natures. One can master all five on their own or can be born with all the natures.
Kishimoto has contradicted himself but not here. And he doesn't suck. It can be hard to remember everything he says from over 660+ chapters. Other writers contradict themselves too. specifically the ones with 500+ chapters.
 

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1. Nagato actually was able to use all 5 elements.

2. Kishi never stated that only Hiruzen knew all 5 elements. Plus, he actually said that Hiruzen used all Konoha jutsus (not all Konoha elements).

Unlike other villages the leaf isn't bound to one element, ie mist = water based, stone=earth based and so the leaf has users of every type. That being known if he knows how to preform every jutsu in the Leaf he has to have all five elements.

The issue is that it was thought that you had to have the rennigan to preform such a feat
 

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It was never said that the rinegan was the only thing that allowed having 5 natures. It just makes it easier. Nagato mastered all 5 basic natures and yin and yang release at the age of 10. Hiruzen probably wenmt through training to have those.

The rinegan makes it very easy to have all 5. Sharingan makes it easy to use genjutsu,yet there are good genjutsu users without the sharingan arent there?
 

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One of the many reasons the 3rd kage was special. Not too many people could do it without the sages eyes.
 

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First he's like hiruzens knows every jutsu in konoha....all five elements exist in konoha....

Then he's like only the rinnegan can allow you to use all five elements

So he had to choose which one he was gonna f**k up and he chose to give hiruzen all five elements...

Kishi sucks and forgets what he writes


The rinnegan gives you the ability to master all 5 elements, no one said its a requirement for mastering them.

Move along ppl nothing to see here.
 
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