Kishi borrowed idea from Black Mercy??

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They both feed the hearts desire and comes from plants. They both use parasitic means.

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"The Black Mercy is a telepathic species. It reads the heart's desire and feeds the individual a totally convincing simulation of it."
"So he's dreaming."
"Oh, far deeper than any dream."
— Mongul and Batman
 
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useless bash thread againts kishi.
 

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Are you talking about that justice league episode? Lols, well I suppose it's similar although we don't exactly know the properties of Infinite Tsukuyomi. It may reflect peoples desires or it may just encompass what Madara creates.
 

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LOGICAL you take interesting stuff from inferior manga
 

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Are you talking about that justice league episode? Lols, well I suppose it's similar although we don't exactly know the properties of Infinite Tsukuyomi. It may reflect peoples desires or it may just encompass what Madara creates.

Yes, the moment I heard of IT way back when it was introduced by Tobi, I immediately thought of the Black Mercy from Justice League; it is the only other thing I know of in fiction that does such a thing. However, who knew that IT would be plant based as well?
 

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They both feed the hearts desire and comes from plants. They both use parasitic means.

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"The Black Mercy is a telepathic species. It reads the heart's desire and feeds the individual a totally convincing simulation of it."
"So he's dreaming."
"Oh, far deeper than any dream."
— Mongul and Batman

Oh, it's in the comic too. I had no idea.
 
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Kishi isnt a thief that i know
 

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Yes, the moment I heard of IT way back when it was introduced by Tobi, I immediately thought of the Black Mercy from Justice League; it is the only other thing I know of in fiction that does such a thing. However, who knew that IT would be plant based as well?

You found a good parallel, but I honestly think the shinju and infinite Tsukuyomi parallel the matrix more.

I think I may have found another one. Have you ever seen Samurai Jack? Well in the final season, there is this dark and abstract episode called seasons of death where Jack passively undergoes trials for each season.

For summer, he travels across a a desert and this wraith attacks him over and he cannot harm it no matter what he tries, but he eventually realizes he's overheated and that it's a mirage.

For fall, as he walks through this forest during autumn, this strange little imp scientist/shaman, not sure exactly who or what he was used science and magic to taint the well in the forest. Whoever drank from the well would turn to leaves. Jack escaped by luring the imp out and faking drinking it since he sensed the guy's presence the whole time. When the imp came up to him to check him, jack turned around and threw the water onto his face and into his mouth, and he turned into leaves instead.

For winter, he fought this viking in these snowy mountains that forged this ice sword that could manipulate ice and frost.

Finally, for spring, it seemed this one would be peaceful at first. Jack went through this forest of budding thorns and all of a sudden it turned into a vast green forest with this beautiful nymph or nature spirit, not sure what she was greeting him. She tried to coax him with her words beauty and hugging him, saying that he had fought enough and that he should rest and stay with her there forever, but just before he fell asleep, he remembered his quest. However, when he tried to leave, she forced him down and attacked him with her vines. When he charged at her, she vanished into a poof of flower petals and the forest reverted back into the thorns revealing it was an illusion the whole time. Still looking for her, he ran off in another direction while it showed her peeking out from one of the trees smirking back at him. And that was the end of the episode.

Kishi isnt a thief that i know

He didn't say he was. By the sounds of it, he's just looking for parallels and means something may have inspired Kishimoto to create the infinite Tsukuyomi idea.
 

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Interesting, it could be a influence just like all the other "ol gods"\samurai's they refer to (Susanoo\Hanzo\etc.)
But interesting no the less.
 

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Personally I would like it if somebody was borrowing my shit for their manga. Means I'm more creative than they are.
 

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If anything he clearly stated that he is inspired by matrix and I'm pretty sure that the dude who doesn't even know about how popular his manga is outside japan would definitely not "borrow" things from these comics. And the plant thing,well here's a thing,in many asian cultures related to buddhism,hinduism,etc. it's a common myth. Names are indeed different but in the end they are all the tree of life,knowledge,etc.

So if anything,it's inspired by matrix,with the twist of mythology and self creativeness.
 

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If anything he clearly stated that he is inspired by matrix and I'm pretty sure that the dude who doesn't even know about how popular his manga is outside japan would definitely not "borrow" things from these comics. And the plant thing,well here's a thing,in many asian cultures related to buddhism,hinduism,etc. it's a common myth. Names are indeed different but in the end they are all the tree of life,knowledge,etc.

So if anything,it's inspired by matrix,with the twist of mythology and self creativeness.

Yeah, the world tree/tree of life/knowledge exists in several mythologies around the world. Egyptian, Meso American, Chinese, Norse, Persian and of course, Judaism and Christianity.

It's also in the warcraft games and lore. A few days ago, I compared Kaguya to Queen Azshara of the highborne night elves who lived around the well of eternity that housed all of the world's primal magic energies and granted them ultimate magic and immortality until it corrupted their minds and bodies and transformed them into serpent creatures called Nagas. The remaining good night elves were forced to destroy the well because the highborne were planning to use it to summon an evil titan called sargeras that they worshipped. To keep their immortality, the surviving untainted night elves escaped and found a world tree on the continent of Kalimdor made from the arcane energies of the well of eternity and a moon well they created that absorbed magic from the moon.
 
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Similar ideas does not mean direct copy paste. Have you never had an idea, and shared it only to find that someone else has the same idea or had the same idea before? Come on.
 

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Damn y'all think Kishimoto watches and reads everything lol
 

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A plant that tries to bind to people, fulfill their wishes so they are docile while it feeds on them. There are some obvious similarities, I don't know if Kishimoto was directly inspired by it though.
 
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