Kisame vs Tobirama

[Beans2]

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Location: Kisame vs Bee
Distance: 40m
Intel: Manga
Restrictions: Edo Tensei

 

[NarutoX28]

Tobirama would crush him in CQC, so he should win unless Kisame somehow pulls off his WaterDome.

 

[ARGUS]

Waterdome GG

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Kisame gets manhandled CQC.

If he wants to use WaterDome, its going to get warped away at Tobirama's monument. And eventually gets put down

 

[Curse Mark]

Kisame gets manhandled CQC.

If he wants to use WaterDome, its going to get warped away at Tobirama's monument. And eventually gets put down

What monument?

 

[Brother Numpsay]

What monument?

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[Curse Mark]

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Did he use FTG? How did the other hokage get there then?

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Did he use FTG? How did the other hokage get there then?

Yes. 2nd panel shows Tobirama touching his brother, while Minato touches Hiruzen. So they move to an area thats pre marked

 

[Curse Mark]

Yes. 2nd panel shows Tobirama touching his brother, while Minato touches Hiruzen. So they move to an area thats pre marked

Missed that, thanks. I guess that shows that when you warp someone besides yourself you can choose where they land

 

[Beans2]

Kisame gets manhandled CQC.

Tobirama would crush him in CQC, so he should win unless Kisame somehow pulls off his WaterDome.

How does Tobirama beat him in CQC? Pretty sure fused Kisame, underwater, would easily overpower him.

If he wants to use WaterDome, its going to get warped away at Tobirama's monument. And eventually gets put down

How does Tobirama teleport liquid water? He can't even mark it.

 

[Zexion~]

You can't mark water.

Also not seeing how Tobirama would shit on Kisame in CQC, he can't be much faster than Bee, Kisame can overwhelm Tobirama here.

 

[NarutoX28]

How does Tobirama beat him in CQC? Pretty sure fused Kisame, underwater, would easily overpower him.

I can agree with that. I was referring to before WaterDome is unleashed though.

How does Tobirama teleport liquid water? He can't even mark it.

All he has to do is tag Kisame which is obviously going to be easy as Kisame is going to swim right towards him and attempt to steal his chakra. Since Tobirama's fast enough to do so considering he did tag Juubito before he was sliced in half (as an Edo!), then Tobirama can tag him and warp him away and the WaterDome obviously moves with him.

One problem though, C mentioned that B's chakra was also mixed with the WaterDome due to it absorbing his chakra, so Tobirama's chakra would become apart of the WaterDome, so he has no choice, but to warp Kisame along with him, so that does absolutely nothing.

 

[TRE MERCER]

How are you warping water? It's not solid plus once he's fused with Samehada there is nothing Tobirama can do to handle him.

 

[Nidaime Suiton]

I think that tobirama win , because his suiton is better than kisame suiton , and tobirama can use the Hiraishin and the Explosion Jutsu.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

How does Tobirama beat him in CQC? Pretty sure fused Kisame, underwater, would easily overpower him.

Think this is rhetorical. Tobirama strike speed is insane so coming in close quarter, added to the fact he can place seals in Samehada or Kisame himself, its not a match.

How does Tobirama teleport liquid water? He can't even mark it.

He can teleport it because his chakra will be mixing with Water Dome, thus FTG works. If the water is spread as a lake via landscape, thats a different story. Kisame is manipulating his chakra and forming the water as a "Dome'. Thus he can warp it.

 

[Magnolius]

Tobirama can warp the water, people. The very fact that WD retains a shape means that it has some solidity, so he could possibly mark the chakra holding it together.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Tobirama can warp the water, people. The very fact that WD retains a shape means that it has some solidity, so he could possibly mark the chakra holding it together.

He cant mark water much like how him and Minato can't mark a Juubidama to warp. But that doesnt mean Tobirama can warp the WD to a pre existing mark. As long as the Water is touching him or his chakra, Tobirama he can transport it to another marking.

 

[Beans2]

I can agree with that. I was referring to before WaterDome is unleashed though.

All he has to do is tag Kisame which is obviously going to be easy as Kisame is going to swim right towards him and attempt to steal his chakra. Since Tobirama's fast enough to do so considering he did tag Juubito before he was sliced in half (as an Edo!), then Tobirama can tag him and warp him away and the WaterDome obviously moves with him.

One problem though, C mentioned that B's chakra was also mixed with the WaterDome due to it absorbing his chakra, so Tobirama's chakra would become apart of the WaterDome, so he has no choice, but to warp Kisame along with him, so that does absolutely nothing.

You know what, I never even thought of the bold. Still, if Kisame keeps his distance he can just wait for Tobirama to drown, or he can send his thousand feeding sharks to rip him to shreds so going near Tobirama is unnecessary. If Tobirama can't touch Kisame, he can't teleport the WD.

I think that tobirama win , because his suiton is better than kisame suiton , and tobirama can use the Hiraishin and the Explosion Jutsu.

Did you make an account just to write this post?

Think this is rhetorical. Tobirama strike speed is insane so coming in close quarter, added to the fact he can place seals in Samehada or Kisame himself, its not a match.

His strike speed is irrelevant because if this is happening underwater, the water pressure will slow down and reduce the force of his strike (punch someone with full force on land then punch someone with full force underwater and ask them which hurts more.) It's even more irrelevant due to the fact that his strongest offensive attack (besides Suidanha which just gets absorbed on contact) is a kunai slash which probably won't even pierce Kisamehada's skin, given how Samehada wasn't scratched from attacks by powerful metal weapons [

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He can teleport it because his chakra will be mixing with Water Dome, thus FTG works. If the water is spread as a lake via landscape, thats a different story. Kisame is manipulating his chakra and forming the water as a "Dome'. Thus he can warp it.

Uh no, just because water dome is filled with Kisame's chakra does not mean he can teleport away water.

 

[Magnolius]

He cant mark water much like how him and Minato can't mark a Juubidama to warp. But that doesnt mean Tobirama can warp the WD to a pre existing mark. As long as the Water is touching him or his chakra, Tobirama he can transport it to another marking.

Ah, that makes sense :sdo:

 

[Magnolius]

Uh no, just because water dome is filled with Kisame's chakra does not mean he can teleport away water.

Minato said that as long as he is touching something, he can warp it!