Wrong snake stand up on their mid belly or body
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meaning the height of the snake its not the actual length but
in water the the full body is out making it much easier for them to swim undergroung giving the length they have also no one ever said waterdome was not going to contain them. Okay if Kisame can sense the other to snakes used they're bodies to attack kisame holding him off untill Sasuke escape, Sucking their chakra causes him to turn into a stone snake so it would be gg for kisame.
Or it just makes it much easier for Kisame to latch on and drain them dry of chakra. Assuming Sasuke can summon these 3 at once, they aren't doing shit to Kisame who is much faster and agile then them in water. He can absorb 6 tails of bijuu chakra in a second or two, so the snake is getting drained fairly quickly; unless you want to suggest that these fodder snakes contain more chakra then V1 Bee. Also, Kisame won't be turning into stone unless he absorbs more nature energy then he has chakra, causing it to be ubalanced [
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Do you even know how Kirin works or are you just sprouting nonsense? read the quote amaterasu can burn for 7 days and 7 nights not like that'll happen but as long as its producing heat Kirin can stay up there as long as Sasuke wants it to. Subteranean Voyage would mean his water dome is gone i presume and his clones are easy to spot as they do not wield shark skin
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but lets pretend it is not gone and he uses a clone while he's fused with shark skin Sasuke could use fodder snakes to atleast get them near each other or he uses kirin at the first sight of him swimming down because why would the real kisame stay above where he can be easily hit. Gai not being able to punch through kisame's water prison is not evidence Kirin would not plow through all the water of waterdome which is not even used like water prison to began with, Waterdome is just a giant suiton ball which the opponent can move freely through like they are swimming through a river while water prison is more dense and restrict movement hence the name prison.
Suigetsu tanking a tbb wave no for 1 he did not tank he was almost dead 2 the tbb did not explode on suigetsu either the blast just seperated him seen by all the water gushing out from the sides
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that is the only reason suigetsu lived and those points do not help kisame at all He's a solid thing suigetsu was not kirin is a giant lighting bolt meaning even before its explosion its still deadly enough to plow through the uchiha hideout
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Kisame is dead.
One - it doesn't matter how long Amaterasu lasts, when Kisame can absorb it. So, not it's not staying there forever, assuming Sasuke is even able to prep it. Two - Kisames water clones would wield Samehada, with all of it's functions [
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]. Three - you're not comprehending the fact that a large body of water would cushion an attack. It adds resistance to whatever comes into contact with it, this is a manga and real life fact. I never said Suegetsu tanked a TBB, but then again you openly stated in another thread that you don't read, which makes sense. Kirin isn't plowing through a deep lake and then solid groud to obliterate Kisame - whom Sasuke wouldn't even be able to differentiate between the clones. If he takes damage, then he heals. Pretty simple. It's failing.
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Gamabunta DSM Kabuto Juugo all are pumped full of nature energy and all can be caught in genjutsu, Kabuto tried his best to not be caught in genjutsu by fighting through pure sensory alone Juugo in very intuned through nature and Sasuke always catches him in a genjutsu aswell the only difference between manda and bunta is them being to different animals both can be caught in genjutsu that was a very dumb post.
Irrelevant those of 2 different snakes the ones i posted are far larger and have a 3 tomoe symbol on themselves. People need to know shark skin is not preta path rapid fire susanoo arrows kills kisame.
Wtf are you even going on about? You said they were natural, so I thought you were implying that they don't contain any chakra. I didn't say anything about whatever tf you're talking about. Your reading comprehension, grammar, and sentence structuring is so piss poor, that I don't have any interest in debating with you at all. Sorry, I tried. Susano'o arrows are never hitting Kisame with full intel for multiple of reasons.
Not really anything chakra consuming here apart from Water Shockwave.. Splitting his chakra by 1/10th is 9%, all the jutsu there apart from Shockwave could be like 5%, and then the shockwave could've cost x amount of chakra. Not sure what this is supposed to prove.
Once again, the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. ONly because he wasn't shown to have his chakra levels be affected doesn't mean they weren't. He reduced his chakra by 9% and showed no signs of fatigue. Does that mean he didn't lose 9% of his chakra? No, because it doesn't need to be shown for it to be a fact. So it's baseless to say he can use the jutsu for hours upon hours when his best chakra feats where after absorbing huge amounts of chakra from v1-v2 Bee and then saying his strength grows according to his opponent's chakra.
Nope. 30% Kisame did all of that, without any indication of running low on chakra. It's really just that simple. If using Water Shockwave and then maintaining it took a huge toll on 30% Kisames reserves, it would of been evident. Instead, he proceeded to use Bunshins and other suiton techniques. There isn't a single shred of evidence that supports the notion that Kisame was gassing out anytime soon. That's all that needs to be said here.
It aids my argument tremendously, it takes time to absorb and thus the Susano arrows can move through it without being absorbed. A second is far linger then it takes for the Susano arrow to reach its destination given the speed in which it is portrayed to move at. I don't argue Yata Mirror is invulnerable to attacks, I argue it's ethereal, reflects attacks and has greater durability then the v4, all of which are logical and can be easily explained. You don't see me spouting Yata Mirror protecting against v2 Juubi TBB's and the like. Also, I would like your input on this as I am confused, Hirudora and GSB seem to have inconsistent sizes. Size here [
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No it doesn't, because you're not taking chakra quantity into consideration. Constructs of large amounts of chakra should logically take longer then smaller amounts, and nothing suggests Susano'o arrows carry an abundant amount of chakra. It should be stripped to nothing by the time it runs through GSB. In regards to the sizes; the first one you linked was before they were launched, and were still being constructed, I'm assuming. When Hirudora is fired, is progressively compacts all the wind pressure together, so it gradually gets smaller before exploding.
I suggest you look back at the original page [
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]. You can clearly see his mouth was disfigured and it did not reform. And I'll agree with you that Kisame going further underground would allow him to prevent the ground above him from turning into fluid, but nothing ever even suggested that fluid was water. So he wouldn't be able to breathe as you are suggesting. So Sasuke just waits for him to come back while he loses his breathe (5 mins tops) and he ends up getting smashed by Susano arrow(s) since Sasuke can see underground with his SHaringan. And lol, how does Kisame do anything to Aoda in an underground battle, Aoda swallows him and Sasuke un-summons him and Kisame has lost via BFR. If Kisame really thinks a battle of waiting out Sasuke's Hawk to go is possible then Sasuke can take advantage of the time he receives by using his Katon Dragon's to heat up the sky to ready-up a Kirin (DB states they are the reason the thunderclouds formed, Ama is just a bonus).
Seems you conceded on the susano'o sword bit, so I see no need to address this.
Water is a fluid. Kisame's chakra made water shouldn't of contained any oxygen, but Kisame was still breathing. Kisame shouldn't of been able to fuse with his sword and breath while hiding inside of it. Obviously, real world logic doesn't apply with every aspect of this manga. I see no reason why Kisames chakra made liquid, wouldn't act the same as Kisames chakra made water. Kisamehada would be breathing with the very same means. Even if he can't, then he simply releases some suiton so he can breath. Sasuke shouldn't be capable of activatign his V3 susano'o on top of the hawk anyways, so suggesting he's using susano'o arrows means he's on the ground level - where Kisame proceeds to exploit Susano'o's weaknesses, and destroy Sasuke. Assuming snakes can sense underground, Aoda doesn't have the same mobility as Kisamehada while the former is travelling through solid ground, and the latter is swimming naturally. Not only that, but Aoda isn't differentiating Kisame with his bunshins either. Simply draining it's chakra causes it to poof, see my respons to Unorthodox in regards to that, and Kirin. But I'm not very interested in this debate anymore. Nor do I have the time. So do as you wish with a reply.