Susano follows the user everywhere he moves, so it isn't being left back unless he chooses for it to be left back. Also, he's used Susano while in mid-air [
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Kisame vs MS Sasuke
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Is there feats of him being able to use two Susano's at the same time when one isn't covering anyone? Madara needed to make clones to achieve multiple Susano'o.
So if Sasuke's going to slam the giant bomb of water with another susano'o the first one falls. Not that it matters as Kisame controls it himself anyways and he'd just aim it upwards.
When did I ever say he's using two Susano's? Lol. I'm saying Sasuke himself jumps above the Daikodan and smashes it with his sword. It only absorbs what it consumes, it doesn't absorb what it makes contact with.
First one isn't falling because he evades it by jumping above. Kisame's control over GSB is limited, and saying it's speed is as fast as Sasuke's/Susano's seems baseless when Susano's striking speed has been shown to be nigh un-dodgeable to top tiers with pre-cog (Danzo).
Unorthodox
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A fodder does not need to out swim kisame all it has to do its make it underground before it dies, What are shark summonings going to do bite it? irrelevant to little either way the snake makes it under ground before it gets killed or atleast puts its head underground. Intel being full Sasuke would not be to close and since he can fight well long range there is no reason for him to get close. Sasuke stands on his hawk in preps kirin with amaterasu he could make it very large depending on how much amaterasu he use either way it would destroy waterdome or GSB giving Sasuke the win.
You gotta be silly they have equal destructive power speed is not equal but to close for it to be a factor genjutsu is useless on both sides nothing each other got can bypass v4 susanoo except Kirin Yata mirror is useless has no real feats totsuka is not piercing a ribcage let alone any susanoo higher then that, Now remind me again that itachi is superior and every way.
Exactly in his snake in general manda also make shark skin useless because its a natural creator.
Forbidden Technique
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Makes sense. Speculation? You can clearly tell when one is running low on chakra and stamina. There was never any indications of such. Water Shockwave helps him in a plethora of ways if Sasuke wants to remain on the surface. If he opts into summoning the hawk, he's only prolonging his inevatable defeat, so doesn't make a difference to me either.
Water Shockwave, WD, Subteranean Voyage, Mizu Bunshins, and Samehada makes everything you listed complete non-factors. Ignorant argument in regards to GSB and susano'o. Kisame was stunned to see that GSB wasn't instantly growing bigger after swallowing Hirudora (implies the absorption doesn't take time at all). He never once questioned if the amount of chakra was too massive for it, he questioned whether the attack was even chakra based in the first place. Why? Because the stronger the enemies technique, the stronger GSB gets. Stated in the manga and databook. But somehow, anything above V2 susano'o is an unquantifiable amount of chakra that breaks the threshold of shinobi, and warrants a no limit fallacy due to a lack of feats. Solid argumentation, with great reason too. Subteranean Voyage only turns the ground around Kisame into fluid, and there is no reason for Kisame to be swimming on the surface of the ground. Susano'o arrows aren't reaching him. Especially with bunshins into play as well.
It does have to out-swim Kisamehada, otherwise it'll get intercepted and stopped before making it's way underground. Kisame might as well should allow Sasuke to prep Kirin, if he wants prolong the fight. It's nothing but a big chakra waste. Kisame can simply unleash a deep Water Shark Wave to soften the attack (optional), while Kisame and Mizu Bunshins take shelter deep underground. It's not coming close to hitting him.
Not even going to go this route with you. Itachi is easily overall superior.
The accomplish nearly nothing. Kid Naruto was handling them just fine, nevermind Kisame. I have no idea what you mean by natrual creator.
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Lord Tywin
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Whatever happened to that Nardo vs Kidomaro debate. Somebody bailed
Right, because Gai and killer B are fodders. And Gai is one dumb mofo.
You already know I would have beat that ass. I got bored of NB quick asf fam.Whatever happened to that Nardo vs Kidomaro debate. Somebody bailed
Right, because Gai and killer B are fodders. And Gai is one dumb mofo.
You said he'd smash it with a Susano'o fist, and pretty sure its a homing missile so it would home in on Sasuke regardless.
What would Sasuke slashing it with a sword do? Its gigantic it literally does nothing at all.
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Unorthodox
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How does Kisame stop it also kisame starts in the middle of waterdome while Sasuke if caught while be around or near the edges of it giving him enough time to swim underground waterdome and length from top to bottom is not that large these snakes was looking over the village tops
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and 3 of them meaning kisame would have to intercept the right one either way Sasuke escaping is happening. Kisame has no choice once Sasuke get to his hawk kisame is a sitting duck, Kirin literally takes little to no chakra add the fact that sasuke chooses to let it go so its does not come down on its own because its ready when he's ready so kisame going underground counters nothing, Water shark wave is blistered right through kirin is a giant lighting bolt the rock defense of the uchiha hideout did not slow it down the water is not either especially since he's only using it from the water he created with waterdome. while the latter used it from the ocean.
No he is not there literally a mirror image of each other but giving Sasuke has flight and much faster susanoo arrows he could win against opponents Itachi could not.
Nature being Manda meaning shark skin would not be able to absorb its chakra or power, Naruto was handling what just fine?
Lord Tywin
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By side stepping everything Kakuzu can throw at him, destroying his puppets with morning peacock, and then bashing Kakuzu's skull in with his nunchucks.
Nah I feel you. I haven't been on as much either, except these last couple of days.
Na bro, that's not what I mean. 100% Kisame might have lost like 10% chakra from creating that amount of water, and you wouldn't get any indication that he lost that amount of chakra. Continiously shape manipulating the water would also take quite some chakra over time. If Sasuke uses Amaterasu for the first time in a fight it might take, say, 15% of his chakra, but you wouldn't notice any 'dent' on his chakra. Same case here. If Kisame tries to manipulate a large body of water for an hour straight then he'll end up low on chakra.
Absortion takes time, he only was shown to be surprised after the Hirudora reached 10 meters inside the GSB [
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Daikodan is portrayed Kisame's ultimate technique. Pretty sure it can at least absorb the same amount of chakra Samehada can, if not more.
Agreed here. If Samehada is the reason why Kisame can cause Hachibi's chakra to almost hit zero, then his ultimate technique would at the very least be able to do that, and more. A regular v4 definitely spends nowhere near the chakra cost compared to Hachibi's total chakra pool.
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Makes sense. Still means it won't absorb a v4 though, and I've already stated it being capable of absorbing infinite chakra doesn't mean anything since the Susano must be consumed by Daikodan for it to be absorbed.
Gates doesn't last forever once it runs out he's getting hit with a jutsu, Asaka. Isn't enough to break through Domu it requires punching the target....one punch and Gai's hand would be broken ultimately leading to Kakuzu's victory.
Lord Tywin
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Lmao no. None of puppets or Kakuzu would have luck surviving an onslaught from Gai. He pretty much blitzes the puppets. He'll smash Kakuzu with his chucks or his direct body punches would merk Kakuzu.
Hm who said they were fodders? Kakashi someone who is on the same level as Gai was getting babyshaked by Kakuzu while Kisame got wrecked every chance he got by Gai. Let me repeat this again Kakashi was the same guy Itachi told Kisame not to fight because it wouldn't be easy for him (And he learned that via Gai who is an extension of Kakashi).
Gai is dumb but he's smart enough to remember Obito's face despite him last seeing him as a kid.